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- ptFoe, on 12/04/2008, -3/+32removable devices are handle so much better in Ubuntu than in Windows XP.
- U83RMENSCH, on 12/04/2008, -0/+24im using ubuntu right now, have done nothing and have had no problems with removable media so far.
- geekoid, on 12/04/2008, -0/+14Yeah, you can actually unmount drives you have stopped using, instead of getting the dreaded "Device in use" nonsense.
- superc0w, on 12/04/2008, -2/+10handy for ubuntu and ntfs:
apt-get install ntfs-3g ntfs-config - jvincent08, on 12/04/2008, -1/+8"And yes, I know that Knoppix is linux, but it's doing removable media correctly."
So is almost every other major, modern distro, including Ubuntu and Fedora. - directrix13, on 12/04/2008, -1/+7Right. Linux. I don't know where this guy gets the idea that removable media is hard. It hasn't been for quite a while now. Hell I normally get the media on my desk that won't read in Windows (partially corrupted and what not).
- inactive, on 12/04/2008, -5/+10Will somebody please write a "10 ways to stop people from writing dull evangelistical articles about Linux" article please?
- vondur, on 12/04/2008, -0/+5I have not had any problems with removable media in Linux since the 2.6 kernel came out.
- skrapek, on 12/04/2008, -2/+710 complicated steps, mostly involving Unix commands--it's so user-friendly my grandma could do it!
- slochewie, on 12/04/2008, -1/+6Did not know removable media was an problem still. I can't even remember the last time my Ubuntu machine didn't automatically mount a thumb drive or even my ipod.
- jaygeeze, on 12/04/2008, -10/+14#11 use an operating system that easily allows you to use removable media.
- jayselle, on 12/04/2008, -4/+8You call that user friendly?
- jvincent08, on 12/04/2008, -0/+4I don't know what this guy is talking about. I don't even remember the last time my flash drive or friend's iPod wasn't mounted automatically for me.
- subgeniusd, on 12/04/2008, -0/+3I have a Sandisk 250 plugged into this Zenwalk 5.2 laptop right now. Loading, moving, renaming, deleting ..... everything works just fine. Should work just as well with Ubuntu.
In fact it's all quicker and easier then with my (seldom used) XP system. This was not the case even 18 months ago.
Another small of many indications how fast the Linux desktop is evolving toward world domination. - skrapek, on 12/04/2008, -0/+3Blame.
Don't hurt yourself by reading too much. - databeast, on 12/04/2008, -2/+5Actually KDE is doing removable media correctly. Knoppix has nothing to do with it (apart from using KDE).
Your statement is like saying Bridgestone tyres are handling engine fuel consumption right. (related, but incidental) - FieldAnonymouse, on 12/04/2008, -6/+9THIS is what they consider "downright user friendly"? If at this point your system can't handle removable media as simply as "Plug and Play" then it's NOT in any way user friendly.
Windows, I plug it in and go. OSX, I plug it in and go. System 9, I plug it in and go. Hell even Knoppix, I plug it in AND GO.
When are these people going to learn that user friendly doesn't involve the terminal?
And yes, I know that Knoppix is linux, but it's doing removable media correctly. - blindmonkey, on 12/04/2008, -1/+4*****. I've used Ubuntu since 6.10. I have also used Red Hat and SuSE in the past. In all the time I've used Linux, I have never had a single issue. Granted, all my removable media has always been FAT32 formatted.
I've had more issues in XP with all of its "Device in use" *****.
For the record, I triple boot with Ubuntu, Vista, and XP on my desktop, and solely use Ubuntu on my laptop.
But then again, I haven't had any issues with any of the above lately. - databeast, on 12/04/2008, -0/+3# fuser -k -m <mountpoint> && umount <mountpoint>
kills whatever is using a device and keeping it open, then unmounts it. - skrapek, on 12/04/2008, -0/+3Blaim?
- Peterix, on 12/04/2008, -0/+3I call that an article full of BS outdated info.
- jamesmcm, on 12/04/2008, -0/+2I've never had a problem with it on Ubuntu 8.04 ever. I actually find it can read corrupted disks better than Windows and OS X.
- waspbr, on 12/04/2008, -0/+2these haven't been an issue ever since 7,10
- Mehster, on 12/04/2008, -0/+2True you can just click Places, and then your drive to mount it, but ntfs-config allows you to set up the fstab to automount the drive on reboot very easily. This removes the necessary user interaction to make your files available. I use this because I have network shares on my NTFS partition, and this makes the files available before the network comes up on a reboot.
- jvincent08, on 12/04/2008, -0/+2I don't use Gnome much, but I'm pretty sure there's an icon now that you can click on to sync and unmount the device before removing it.
- Digi2112, on 12/04/2008, -1/+3Yeah and linux is too blaim or maybe there are just millions of people who can get stuff to work on linux, but you can't - hmmm so who is the dumbass?
Thank God for Winblows when you goto bed. LOL! Microsuck fanboy! - inactive, on 12/04/2008, -1/+3My Gentoo setup works very well. The Nautilus deficiencies show up on all distributions. Gnome is a bloated pig. I have been using GNU/Linux since 1995.
- subgeniusd, on 12/04/2008, -1/+3That article is posted from Tech Republic as you may or may not have noticed. That's his job---writing short articles about various Linux and Open Source subjects.
None of his stuff is dull or "evangelistical" (I know you meant evangelical because you're such a really really smart dude) and as a Tech Republic member I'm certain because I read him all the time. - Peterix, on 12/04/2008, -0/+2How nice. An article about a total non-issue. lol
- fooken, on 10/01/2009, -0/+2hahah it's a lot of lines which means it's not easy to do in which case you are being sarcastic, oh the laughs!
- lastelement0, on 12/04/2008, -2/+3this article makes it seem even worse than it really is. yes its true you can use those tips to "easily" use removable media. however the new 8.1 ubuntu (intrepid ibex) makes removable media a snap. first with adding ntf support you can use all your windows formatted goodies to read and write from within linux. also with thumb drives and the like, there is convenient "eject" button icon next to the device when in nautilus.
so do more research before you bash on something you haven't tried - Aquashark, on 12/05/2008, -0/+1more linux propaganda.. wow guys, great job in reinventing the wheel in 10 half-arsed ways
- TheMandibleClaw, on 12/04/2008, -0/+1who still uses lilo ?
- inactive, on 12/04/2008, -0/+1The HAL daemon manages the device mounting and unmounting. Isn't that idea, retard?
- asg1290, on 12/04/2008, -0/+1What in the world does updating your lilo.conf (which most distros don't use) have anything to do with removable media?
- sanriver12, on 12/04/2008, -3/+4as everything linux, it's REALLY EASY TO DO
here are the steps:
bash# cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage.myker.26mar2001
bash# man lilo
bash# man lilo.conf
And edit /etc/lilo.conf file and put these lines -
image=/boot/bzImage.myker.26mar2001
label=myker
root=/dev/hda1
read-only
You can check device name for 'root=' with the command -
bash# df /
then
cd /boot
rm System.map
rm vmlinuz
rm modules
ln -s System.map-2.2.14-5.0smp System.map
ln -s vmlinuz-2.2.14-5.0smp vmlinuz
ln -s modules-info-2.2.14-5.0smp module-info
cd /usr/src/linux - alex7575, on 12/04/2008, -3/+3If you know how to use the terminal, and are comfortable with using Unix commands, "you may find that removable media is downright user friendly."
- inactive, on 12/04/2008, -1/+1Yes, there is an umount menu option on the media icon. But that does not sync the device. Gnome should provide a visual queue to tell the user that there is a write in progress and it is not such a good idea to remove the media.
- Digi2112, on 12/04/2008, -1/+1Ahhh come on - Use autofs with ubuntu 8.10 and if there is an issue with mounting any media after is has mounted correctly - Simply remove /etc/mtab and reboot.
I have a kickass setup on a 4gb flash drive running a persistent install of Intrepid. I did see where a lock file was seen and some other issue having to do with media not mounting correctly. I fooled with it and fooled with it, answer..... Delete /etc/mtab and reboot - problem solved.
G'luck to everyone and isn't it great how far linux has come. - inactive, on 12/04/2008, -1/+1You can call it ***** all you want. All that it proves is that people will have different experiences. Like I said in the post above, I've never had a problem with XP or Vista, but I'll add, I've never had a problem with Ubuntu or openSuse either so that should round out the argument a little.
- benow, on 12/04/2008, -0/+0I've been using a hotswap trayless harddrive bay for a while, it works well.
http://benow.ca/forum/topic.page?op=view&key=1 ... - lufthanza, on 12/04/2008, -0/+0As far as I know, KDE syncs before unmount. Guess it's not such a heap of crap :).
- arvinddeshpande, on 12/04/2008, -1/+0So what do you use? Command line mount/unmount?
If so then why crib about the Desktop environments and File Managers?
Or you can write your own gnome script to do sync before unmounting? - sodade, on 12/04/2008, -3/+2I set up dual boot Ubuntu/XP on my machine. I tend to keep XP running because my cheapo sandisk MP3 player won't load files from Ubuntu properly. (yes I used the MMC setting)
- inactive, on 12/04/2008, -2/+1Still can't spell then. Feel free to start abusing people when you can construct a coherent sentence.
- inactive, on 12/04/2008, -3/+2One problem I have had with removable media and Gnome/Nautilus is that it allows removal of the media before pending writes are completed. So if you are copying lots of files to a flashkey, for example, you need to issue a 'sync' from the command line to complete the writes so you can remove the key. Moronic. Has anyone found another way around this? This is why I just stick to the command line.
Obviously this is not a Linux problem. The kernel works flawlessly. The problem is Gnome. It is a heap of crap, but far preferable to that worse heap of crap KDE. - Digi2112, on 12/04/2008, -3/+1Blaim - Go look it up
But please, oh please... make sure you don't hurt yourself by typing too much. - sanriver12, on 12/04/2008, -5/+2i’ve stayed away from Linux because of the hassle of working with ANYTHING ... go ahead digg me down linux fanboys
- Digi2112, on 12/04/2008, -4/+1WTF ever.... Get a clue and then spread your worthless opinion. Gnome kicks ass... If you do not won't to learn something, blaim yourself!
Too many people, like myself, have good working setups with Linux and I'm sorry if you can't do it.
Take that into account when saying something sucks. I say you suck. Go use your winblows. - Digi2112, on 12/04/2008, -5/+1Oh yeah and for you morons who don't like using the terminal. Before the mouse there was the keyboard.
Look in the mirror when you can't get something to work. Look hard because it is such a sad thing to hear and read when people try blaiming Linux for something not working correctly. Blaim yourself..... if not, go use your winblows.
For OS X... I have installed OS X onto a Dell laptop and had it working fairly well. Many things I looked up online, so to get an App to work in OS X, referred people to using a terminal and actually having to type commands. OH MY!! Run to your winblows! Please Microsuck, save us from ever having to type unless in a comment section about how we don't like typing in a terminal. Get a clue people... -
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