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- patbon, on 08/03/2009, -4/+50This is more like "5 Reasons I like Linux and 5 Paragraphs of Me Whining like a Bitch"
- maxvette, on 08/03/2009, -9/+40Linux will never unseat Windows.
People are averse to change
people like what they (sort of) understand.
People are stupid and will always take whatever their friends have.
Linux does not have a centralized form of User Support in the way that the average person understands it.
Businesses use windows 99.99% of the time so the entire industry is geared towards selling/supporting windows
Most mainstream software doesnt include Linux Support (just becase us geeks can install something doesnt mean a retard can)
People trust corporations. Because theyre stupid. - schnikies79, on 08/03/2009, -4/+31More mutual masturbation by the linux crowd.
Nothing to see here. - BigCheezer, on 08/03/2009, -7/+22Buried, linux will never take over.
- norman619, on 08/03/2009, -5/+161 reason Linux will NOT triumph over windows.
Major software vendor support. There is none. This is the only thing keeping Linux from being a realistic choice for home users. An OS can be the best thing since sex but if I can't use my favorite applications on it then it's pretty useless to me. - abbathdoom, on 08/03/2009, -5/+14Half his points are just the opposite of the previous point. So really it is more like 5 reasons why Linux will Triumph.
- Marinesniper, on 08/03/2009, -3/+11Hahaha
- J3553, on 08/03/2009, -2/+9where is the list of 1000 reasons why it won't?
- poonaka, on 08/03/2009, -2/+8Linux will never take the top spot for desktops! It will be years before they finally figure out how to make it easy to use for the average user. Once they fix that they still have a huge problem. Linux has no markerting! No one outside the tech industry has ever heard of Linux. There is absolutely nothing to drive people over to the Linux camp.
- ashes0, on 08/03/2009, -5/+11You proud of that 1 1/2% market share?
The year of linux huh? - inactive, on 08/03/2009, -4/+9And yet far more people will have any windows OS than linux. Shocker :O
- FightTest, on 08/03/2009, -5/+10When I can play any game I want at framerates equal to Windows I'll switch.
- werberg, on 08/03/2009, -5/+10Can someone tell me why i am getting tired of this kind of crap?
- dandonia, on 08/03/2009, -1/+5He could have listed 50 but in terms of market share it's never gonna happen.
- norman619, on 08/03/2009, -1/+5My answer to your points.
1. Agree for the most part. We see this demonstrated each time MS releases a new version of Windows. The FUD really flies. I don't agree with calling people who choose what their friends use stupid. Also, most people don't understand Windows yet they use it because they know how to use it well enough to do what they need to do.
3. If Linux ever went mainstream the support would materialize. That's a given.
4. In business Linux is gaining in the server market. This is the only market Linix has been making any kind of real advance. So claiming business is 99.99% Windows is a bit dishonest. True on the desktop most companies use Windows but in the server room is a different matter entirely.
5. "People trust corporations. Because theyre stupid." Wrong. People trust the dominant products in a market because countless users have voted them the best with their dollars. I detect a bit of baseless hatred for MS. - tux11, on 08/03/2009, -0/+4linux works . maybe u don't mr s.s.i.
- icexe, on 08/03/2009, -0/+4well, Linux isn't going to take over ***** when you're trying to sell it to regular people using language like this:
"Fedora 11: 20-second boot time, btrfs file system, Better C++ support, Cups PolicyKit integration, DNS Security (DNS SECurity), ext4 default file system, fingerprint reader integration, IBUS input method replaces SCIM (to overcome limitations), GNOME 2.26, KDE 4.2, Windows cross-compiler inclusion."
- ThantiK, on 08/03/2009, -1/+5I am a Linux Zealot. I love it, I loathe it. But the truth of the matter is, until the Linux community stops trying to copy Mac OSX and Windows (have you ever seen how many ***** gnome/kde OSX/Vista themes there are?...it's ***** mind boggling), then linux won't prevail ***ON THE DESKTOP***.
Linux has already succeeded in the business world. Microsoft is *****-scared of it. It won't ever go away, however I suspect that it will always be playing catch-up until the community designs and develops a one-size-fits-all package manager. Of course these are only my assumptions, in theory linux is amazing. In the server room it's amazing. On the desktop, *I* think it's amazing (ubuntu), but there is always someone with some new piece of hardware, or in some cases, some OLD piece of hardware, that won't know how to get it working... - manicleek, on 08/03/2009, -2/+6You think Linux is the worlds most popular OS now because your work PC takes 15 minutes to load?
- andypop481, on 08/03/2009, -1/+52010 is the year of the linux desktop!
- kevinmoore, on 08/03/2009, -1/+4I have hundreds of servers in multiple data centers that demonstrate that your four points are incorrect. Also, what do you think is the operating system behind many of the web sites you visit? How about the servers that move your e-mail across the Internet?
- jmferris, on 08/03/2009, -2/+5Wow. What an unbiased article! It must be true! /s
The article is nothing more than an anti-MS attack piece. It is hard to prove your point when you say things "a joke" and "failed miserably" without providing factual context. - hobonetweaver, on 08/03/2009, -2/+5What about Windows 98 SE and Windows 2000 Pro? Those were rock-solid.
Somehow they were conveniently omitted from the list. - killdashnine, on 08/03/2009, -1/+4The only real chance that Linux has to "make it" is through really fixing the User Interface. Some have tried, but Apple and Microsoft have spent Millions on this area alone.
- Screwy1138, on 08/03/2009, -6/+8this is silly. You know all those companies out there running XP? They're about to go to Windows 7.
- iFrix, on 08/03/2009, -0/+2unfortunately you are right...
especially the software compatibility thing is a big issue for me otherwise I would have made the jump already. - norman619, on 08/03/2009, -1/+3Do pigs fly in your world? I bet they do!
In MY world, you know, the REAL world, my Widnows hasn't creashed in YEARS. Windows will run on ANY hardware config Linux can and on some Linux can't. I find your "every desktop" comment adorably naive. Windows has over 90% of the desktop market. I guess your criteria doesn't mean jack.
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-m ...
Windows has 93.04% , Mac has 4.86%. and Linux has 1.05%.
I guess it's time to rejoyce! Linux broke the 1% mark!
Oh wait.. am I "hating" on Linux? Maybe a better question would be Is it hating when it's the truth? - iFrix, on 08/03/2009, -1/+3This is actually a vicious circle:
you can't play the game until the developers start making linux-versions.
The developers wont make linux-versions until their market share goes up. (or they would invest more than they would earn)
Their market-share won't go up until people can play games on it... - gerrylazlo, on 08/03/2009, -3/+5I think Google OS stands to be a much more likely alternative for people unhappy with Windows than Linux ever could.
- JQP123, on 08/03/2009, -0/+2"People are averse to change"
Correction: People are adverse to change when the perceived benefits don't outweigh the cost.
Offer me an automobile that is comfortable, affordable, totally electric with 500 mile range and recharges in 2 hours and I'm changing from my gas guzzler in a heartbeat.
But offer me another gas guzzler "almost as good" as the one I have and I'm staying put ... even though you may berate me for being "adverse to change". - MattBD, on 08/03/2009, -0/+2You'll be waiting a long time then, quite frankly! I will say you can't go too far wrong with Ubuntu or a derivative such as Linux Mint, and they generally use Gnome and apt-get. But Chrome OS might be worth waiting for.
I think desktops are too much a matter of personal preference - I love KDE, but I'm quite happy using Gnome or Xfce instead. They really aren't that different. - waydee, on 08/03/2009, -0/+2Linux has always had niche appeal on the desktop, it has it's place but to unseat Microsoft in that market is a monumental task. It's a bit late at this point, there was a better chance of success during the days of Windows 9x but ever since the transition to NT based Windows the advantages to running Linux for the average user have been less evident.
In the ~18 years since the first release of the Linux kernel a lot of progress has been made in usability, I used to run Linux as my primary OS 1998-2001 and seeing a modern distribution like Ubuntu shows impressive progress, it is certainly possible for the layman to use Linux on an everyday basis these days but the advantages to doing so are negligible, certainly not enough for many to put the effort into switching. I still use Debian occasionally for some tasks, Linux is a powerful tool but the vast majority of what I do on a computer is served well by Windows.
I'm not saying it couldn't happen but with every year that goes by that Windows is the desktop standard the task becomes harder. - calcm, on 08/03/2009, -0/+2You sound just like the "mainframers" I knew. They laughed. Said things like ".....Dream on...Won't happen.....". The "mainframers" are now just a flickering memory as they tried to justify themselves and justify why they should still exist.
You are in denial. You can sit there all high and might so arrogant and condescending just like the "mainframers" did. - hobonetweaver, on 08/03/2009, -0/+2Ya right, and we'll all have mobile devices w/ high-bandwidth wireless transceivers in them which detect other similar devices nearby and spontaneously form wireless networked communities of data exchange, drastically reducing (and eventually eliminating) the need for major Internet backbones and ISPs.
Dream on nerdly. Won't happen. - MattBD, on 08/03/2009, -0/+1The thing is that many Linux developers do it for the fun, and who wants to be told what project they can work on? People prefer Gnome or KDE for different reasons, and ultimately there is room for both. Perhaps it does cause a little confusion, but I'm really not convinced that lasts long in new users.
There's certainly room for the lightweight WM's like Fluxbox as they remain relatively niche offerings that appeal to people who prefer very lightweight environments, or those who have specific requirements - for example tiling window managers like Ratpoison or Ion tend to appeal to people who dislike using a mouse or have RSI.
As for package managers, it's only really the RPM and apt-get packaging systems that are really significant. If someone's going to use Gentoo then they have reason to learn about Portage, but Gentoo is not really an option for non-technical users, and the same applies for Arch or Slackware and their package managers. - KungFuJ35u5, on 08/03/2009, -0/+1Chrome OS will be LInux.
- KungFuJ35u5, on 08/03/2009, -0/+1Wine implements Windows' API fairly well for most things that aren't games (and even in the games market, it penetrates a fairly large scope).
And there are several open sourced alternatives that I happen to enjoy better than the Microsoft solution (the entire Office suite, for example). - pathy, on 08/03/2009, -0/+1I don't think Linux is really going to get a chance until there's a major shake up of hardware.
- gerrylazlo, on 08/03/2009, -0/+1It will use the Linux kernel, but that is likely irrelevant since everything the user sees will be the 'google chrome os'. The linux aspect will be minimal and most likely not visible to the normal user. Granted who knows what the final product is, but I have for more optimism with it than Linux itself. I've been waiting for Linux to stop sucking since 1999, but it's never turned the corner.
- KungFuJ35u5, on 08/04/2009, -0/+1What exactly do you dislike about it? Have you used a distro since 1999? Which ones are you using?
- tux11, on 08/03/2009, -0/+1we shall over come!
- scoot2006, on 08/03/2009, -0/+1The basics of the Windows UI haven't changed since Windows 95. Small, incremental changes aren't detrimental for users.
- calcm, on 08/03/2009, -3/+4For those of you too young to remember IBM mainframes and the time they ruled the world let me give you glimpse into the past. In the 1980's and through 1992 or so all companies and governments were run using IBM mainframes. If you were to tell anyone at that time that in 1993 mainframes would start dying out and would be replaced by cheaper intel servers running Microsoft Windows you would have been laughed at. PC's were around yes but big business was all IBM mainframes. The problem was the huge cost of mainframes. The cost was a burden to business and the data was isolated away from the business users who wanted more access to their data.
So, starting in the early 1990's and continuing throughout all of the 1990's Microsoft Windows NT Servers started replacing IBM mainframes as the central hub of business IT infrastructure. It was really all based on cost. The more something costs the more it is a burden on business. Mainframes were so expensive that they were actually hurting the business they were supposed to help.
Now on to today. As IBM mainframes really had a monopoly on business, business decided to look for cheaper alternatives to the cost of information technology. And the answer was Microsoft. But for reason I continue to not understand Microsoft now has a monopoly on business that is too expensive. Just as IBM mainframes were expensive so now is the Microsoft solution. Just as in the 1990's business is alway looking for ways to cut back on cost. From a cost stand point IBM Mainframes truly are equal to Microsoft.
Now enter the world of Linux. Linux can and will provide a cost effective solution to the world of Information Technology in business. Why? Because of the cost factor. Back in the 1990's all the "mainframers" laughed at Microsoft not knowing at that time that they would soon be replaced within five years to the lower cost solution that was to be Microsoft.
Now that Microsoft is the expensive monopoly in business -- history will repeat itself. Microfties can laugh all they want at Linux. Microsofties can feel so comfortable where they are in life....not knowing that a growing trend stands right in front of them. I saw it happen with the mainframers and I see it happening with the microsofties.
Linux will happen. It is just a matter of time. - dougle, on 08/03/2009, -0/+1I agree with you apart from 4. "In business Linux is gaining in the server market." it started at the top of this market, went along the top for a bit, and is currently at the top still.
- KungFuJ35u5, on 08/03/2009, -0/+1People seem to do it every 5 years when Microsoft forces its users to use new interface conventions.
- n8dude, on 08/04/2009, -0/+1No major software vendor support? What about companies like Oracle and Novell?
- tux11, on 08/05/2009, -0/+1really
- inactive, on 08/03/2009, -1/+2o rly?
- poonaka, on 08/19/2009, -0/+1The only commercials from them I've ever seen are for server products.
I've tried the last three releases of Ubuntu. Every single time I've tried I have had to go through pains to get sound and video to work properly. If all you are looking to do is run a web browser and you are lucky enough to get it to install properly then yes I'd agree with you. Otherwise most the apps have retarted names and are put under menus that don't make sense.
People have no problem going back and forth between MS and Apple. - scoot2006, on 08/03/2009, -1/+2Top reason Linux will never Triumph over Windows:
Not everyone's computer savvy and adjusting to a new OS is something they just WON'T do. Period. -
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