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- acrodev, on 01/27/2008, -2/+75It only takes about 30 lbs of pressure directly on the chest during a particular phase (q) of the heartbeat to disrupt the electrical rhythm and cause a heart attack. It could be a baseball, puck, or even just tripping and landing on the chest. The chances are low, but they're there.
- Brak710101, on 01/27/2008, -6/+54Ever wonder why goalies have Kevlar sheets and 4 inches of high-density foam and plastic in their chest protectors? Pucks hit with the force of a gun shot, they'll stop hearts and shatter face bones.
If anyone remembers the referee that got hit during a wings game with a shot that redirected off the crossbar, you saw how bad it was. He needed facial reconstructive surgery.
Hockey, greatest sport out there, but also probably one of the most dangerous, too. - supermanred, on 01/27/2008, -8/+40Stay away from our sport. Hockey is played with hard frozen pucks that do not leave a glowing trail behind them to make it easier for you to follow.
Thank you,
Signed
Canada - inactive, on 01/27/2008, -4/+34Heartbreaking story.
- inactive, on 01/27/2008, -11/+30I don't know much about hockey, but I don't think thats a good way to block a shot.
- Hockey13, on 01/27/2008, -2/+19It was an awkward way to fall and block a shot, but it happened. This is why I think people who don't wear masks are crazy. I play in adult leagues where I've seen lots of deflected pucks knocking out people's teeth. It's pretty ugly when a guy's teammates are trying to pick up four of his teeth from the blood-stained ice.
Hockey is a sport where freak things happen a hell of a lot. I've had my share of injuries from going head-first into the boards or getting whacked in the neck with a stick or puck, but the worst was when I got tripped up into an oncoming player who stepped on my left wrist in an attempt to jump over me, severing everything right down to the radial bone, on which I have two little skate blade marks, according to my surgeon.
Suffice it to say that I question people who call hockey a "sport for pussies," whatever that even means. - jpt62089, on 01/27/2008, -3/+19... But the story is about a hockey player...
- sjbdallas, on 01/27/2008, -1/+15Pretty wild. I think this has happened to baseball players too.
- dezmo, on 01/27/2008, -0/+14I knew I had a reason for developing bad posture
- wellyuk, on 01/27/2008, -6/+18this is why you're gay and the reason no one reads your comments.
- supermanred, on 01/27/2008, -4/+16Bammmmmmmm!!!!!!
- xXMetalJesusXx, on 01/27/2008, -2/+12Only the most dedicated players block shot because there is no way tell where that puck is going to hit.
- harryterry, on 01/27/2008, -2/+12i've been playing hockey for 15 years. and even now at 20 years old, i still have a hard time diving in front of a puck, for that very reason. it is a reaction to block a shot, but when you go down, you're just thinking.."why the ***** am i doing this??" i hope he's alright
- DurtyJ, on 01/27/2008, -6/+15Breathtaking.
- sgtbutterscotch, on 01/27/2008, -0/+9Interesting...source?
- supermanred, on 01/27/2008, -2/+10..and you must be a men withouts a good grasps of pluralizations.
:) - imashmuck, on 01/27/2008, -0/+8Same happened to Chris Pronger when he was playing against the Red Wings maybe 10 years or so ago. Took a slap shot right to the chest. He was lucky.
- mmcgrath20, on 01/27/2008, -2/+9Actually... that is not at ALL how it works, but thanks for playing.
AED's create an electrical current through the cardiac muscle tissue that immediately depolarizes the 'natural pacemakers' of the heart, the SA and AV nodes. Once they are depolarized they repolarize and the natural heart rhythm can begin again. AED's can only be used on certain heart arrhythmias (ventricular fibrillation), because creating this electrical charge will only successfully reset the nodes during V-tach. So they don't STOP the heart, they allow for the natural function which has been overriden by some unnatural cause to begin again.
Before you go scaring people get your facts straight. AED's save lives, lots of them. - fitzfan, on 01/27/2008, -1/+8and she is the reason there is now netting up over the glass at every NHL rink...
- kronzdigg, on 01/27/2008, -1/+8its called Commotio Cordis. Ive had it happen twice playing the Wii LOLz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commotio_cordis - Furkle, on 01/27/2008, -0/+7This is why some people need to suck up their pride and wear a full face guard as well as a mouth guard, I love the sport but ever since I was little I could never figure out why people don't wear the protection that's available. However blocking shots is always risky and whenever I played I knew what players not to risk it with and those that I did I tried to block with knee/shin guards.
- imashmuck, on 01/27/2008, -0/+6I think it said in the video he didn't mean to block it that way. I'm pretty sure he slipped and ended up in a bad position to block the shot.
- kohner86, on 01/27/2008, -2/+8I hope your kidding. As someone who has played hockey since I was eight I can definitely say it is pretty safe by comparison to most sports. Plus if I'm not mistaken, statistically the most dangerous sport is fishing...
- mal1964, on 01/27/2008, -0/+6I'm glad the coaches were on top of it , Minnesota has one of the best high school hockey programs in the world if you had to pick a rink to get hit in the heart with a puck, one in Minnesota is a pretty good choice.l
- fjeirsou, on 01/27/2008, -0/+6My friend plays for Winona. Everyone that was at the game said they thought he was going to die on the ice. We had a moment of silence for him at school...scary stuff...
- xXMetalJesusXx, on 01/27/2008, -4/+10lol...who are you talking about? Canadian players LOVE to play in Canada. The salary cap forces teams to trade players around.
Unless you think the NHL is an American league...in which case you're an idiot - Lax32, on 01/27/2008, -2/+7Every now or then a lacrosse player dyes after getting hit in the heart like this. If you get hit during the exact right time of a certain cycle of your heat beat (which is a couple miliseconds), your heart basically stops and unless they have a defibrillator your chances arent good. They keep trying to create some kind of pad to stop it, but the problem is that its pretty hard and nobody really knows how to approach the problem. Players already wear shoulderpads with more padding around the heart to protect the sternum but it doesn't help because it doesn't even have to be a very hard impact, it just has to hit at the right time.
Im not sure if thats what happened with this kid because I didnt hear them say they had to restart his heart, but its becoming a big problem in sports. - mmcgrath20, on 01/27/2008, -1/+6I don't think commotion cordis is the culprit here. Commotio cordis is the condition that results when an object strikes the chest wall at the precise instant of ventricular repolarization. The result is an immediate cessation of normal heart rhythm, usually fibrillation or asystole. This results in a loss of pulse, loss of consciousness, and death. The "fluttery" heart rate and difficulty breathing are more likely the result of a cardiac contusion, which is also caused by a blunt blow to the chest, but it causes bruising of heart and lung tissue and not a complete loss of cardiac function. If this child did suffer commotio cordis, he most likely would have died without immediate defibrillation.
Just another reason all athletic events need medical coverage by certified athletic trainers and AED's. I hope he makes a full recovery - bxblox, on 01/27/2008, -0/+5theres a sharp nerve pain that lets you know youre doing something wrong
- ostracize, on 01/27/2008, -0/+5Well no *****. You have to block the shot properly. Nobody in the NHL turns their back to a shot. As long as the player is ready and square to the shot, it's safe. Sometimes they'll get a stinger in the boot but long-term injuries are pretty rare.
- superal1394, on 01/27/2008, -0/+5Lacrosse player at my highschool died barely a year ago from this. His heart stopped instantly, kept alive by CPR, never woke up. Died a week after the accident.
He was 17, high honor student. - carguy84, on 01/27/2008, -0/+5Not so sure about that lower strap...
- peaches017, on 01/27/2008, -1/+6Damn, glad he'll be alright. I've always been worried that someone could get hit in the neck / teeth by a hockey puck.
- terracottapai, on 01/27/2008, -1/+6I know, my point was that if a puck can cause such significant injury to someone who isn't even on the playing field, it's amazing such a potentially deadly force isn't, well, as deadly as it has the potential to be.
- Nogara8376, on 01/27/2008, -4/+9"looks like a good person"!?
Lol
You must be a women - SifuMoKung, on 01/27/2008, -0/+5If he still plays after this, it will have been atrium-f of the heart. Aorta have better chest protection.
- redrover, on 01/27/2008, -1/+6It's definitely happened before though. That's the scary part.
Although it's slightly unrelated, it's also possible to snap a blood vessel in your neck if you sit perfectly straight and turn around a certain way. - MackenzieArbour, on 01/27/2008, -0/+5That's probably one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. You can easily tell if someone is wearing shoulder pads or not, and no ref would let someone play without them. At least no ref in my (or any) high school league, or the GTHL (Greater Toronto Hockey League).
- erikerikerik, on 01/27/2008, -0/+5aaaaaaaaaand erikerikerik = 1/2 correct, mmc = 1/2 correct, and the winna, coming out with all facts in line is RealGeneDoc, with both facts correct.
and just to keep every on the same playing field.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defibrillation - endersadvocate, on 01/27/2008, -1/+6reduce death!
- HanSolo69, on 01/27/2008, -2/+7Why? It's a proven fact that this can kill you. It's happened before in multiple sports.
- RealGeneDoc, on 01/27/2008, -1/+5Careful there mmcgrath20. You're using a tone against erik that suggest he's an idiot and wrong. But, in your explanation, you talk about the depolarization of the SA/AV nodes and inadvertently say that what erik said was correct, but you are incorrect in saying the AED doesn't stop the heart. The sudden depolarization induced by the AED introduces a refractory period in pacemaking cells that hopefully blocks a reentrant and/or tachycardic rhythm. The next step, which erik's right about, is that you wait for the heart to start again on it's own -- the AED does nothing to start the next beat. You hope one of the native pacing cells kicks back in and starts a normal cycle. AEDs are useful for sure. Just watch the attitude -- let's help each other hear and not get up on a shaky pedestal. Also, don't forget there are a number of fatal rhythms besides VT for which a defib is useful.
- otero1, on 01/27/2008, -2/+6Get the puck outta' here!
- MackenzieArbour, on 01/27/2008, -0/+4In many of the rinks I play at, they have defibrillators at hand ready to be used. It's been like that for a few years now. Thankfully though, I've never had to see one being used.
- xXMetalJesusXx, on 01/27/2008, -1/+5Not at all...Especially in the NHL. Shots from the point can reach up to 100 Miles/Hour. If that hits you in the skate, knee, face...elbow...some parts of the back of the leg...prepare for broken bones.
- wellyuk, on 01/27/2008, -1/+5You're not mistaken.
- Pake, on 01/27/2008, -0/+4And even then the goalie equipment can't protect everything, especially when you consider just how many goalies and players Al MacInnis managed to injure. Everything from broken fingers for goalies (one that went straight through the glove) to rupturing his own teammates testicle accidentally.
- mmcgrath20, on 01/27/2008, -2/+5Actually, it is any blow that disrupts the ventricular repolarization phase, or ascending t-wave, that results in a 'heart attack' (commotio cordis, see comments below). But this child didn't have commotio cordis, he had a cardiac contusion, which is very different but still severe.
- mortigon, on 01/28/2008, -0/+3I get the same feeling standing in front of the net to screen the goalie...
I always seemed to be out there when that one dman with the wicked but inaccurate shot was at the point. - cbrian, on 01/27/2008, -1/+4if you really believe hockey is dangerous, you're retarded. have you seen the amount of padding we wear?
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