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- dimmerswitch, on 04/15/2008, -1/+73If you haven't seen the clip it's available from the story page or here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec_2oKWe2Gw
- WickedOwl, on 04/15/2008, -7/+78As a goalie, I'd rather have a rule that allows me to slash the crap out of the guy's legs and rough him up a bit when he starts doing that. I think that would add an interesting dynamic to the game...
- thelastcivilian, on 04/15/2008, -6/+65I doubt he would've kept it up anyway. Drury was on his case DURING the powerplay. How much of an ***** do you have to be that your own teammates will stop playing and tell you to ***** off?
- GrantMVP, on 04/15/2008, -19/+65Avery = bush league
- finista, on 04/15/2008, -5/+51The Avery Rule. The NHL made him very pleased.
- UncleCrapper, on 04/15/2008, -3/+42The NHL did NOT create a new rule to cover Avery's ridiculous antics. Instead, they made an on-the-fly change to the interpretation of the existing rule on unsportsmanlike conduct.
From TFA:
"An unsportsmanlike conduct minor penalty (Rule 75) will be interpreted and applied, effective immediately, to a situation when an offensive player positions himself facing the opposition goaltender and engages in actions such as waving his arms or stick in front of the goaltender's face, for the purpose of improperly interfering with and/or distracting the goaltender as opposed to positioning himself to try to make a play." - CapeKid, on 04/15/2008, -1/+34A transcript of the event:
Avery: "I'M NOT TOUCHING YOU!!! I'M NOT TOUCHING YOU!!! NANANANANA!!! - kinseyincanada, on 04/15/2008, -1/+33Averys job is too be a douchenag and piss everyone else off so they lose their concentration, and he is excellent at being a doucebag.
- drimo, on 04/15/2008, -5/+34I thought it was pretty funny, but I can see how it would entice people into taking a penalty.
- Kronos6948, on 04/15/2008, -11/+34As much as it may seem immature or wrong, there was no rule against it, so Avery did nothing wrong. He got inside Brodeur's head, which can take a good goalie off of his game.
- boxlight, on 04/15/2008, -5/+27I give him credit for creativity, but it would only work until he gets a slap shot in the back of the knee.
Still, that's beer league stuff. An unsportsmanlike conduct penalty is warranted. - mytibt, on 04/15/2008, -7/+29Sad when you get more press for your antics than your game
- LittleFishChan, on 04/15/2008, -1/+20I'm surprised someone hasn't already tried something like that before.
(Dance, little man, dance!) - TinternAbbot, on 04/15/2008, -1/+19Yeah, and as you're hacking away, the puck hits the back right corner of the net.
- Coffeedemon, on 04/15/2008, -2/+17Agree. Would love for Hextall to be the goalie in that case.
- PhrosTT, on 04/15/2008, -3/+15close up clip of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb4WaZMVtyE&feature ...
(It's not a ***** rick roll I swear)
/edit it's ***** hilarious BTW. - Coffeedemon, on 04/15/2008, -2/+14Well they did let Brodeur off with a stick to Avery's pills.
- WhiteMike87, on 04/15/2008, -4/+15no one should have to play hockey while someones being a little bitch and slashing their stick 2 inches from a persons face. Avery shouldn't be the one "testing" other players professionalism when he can barely show any at all.
- Flump5000, on 04/15/2008, -7/+17Avery just needs his ass kicked already.
- Flump5000, on 04/15/2008, -3/+12He didnt get into his head. He waved his stick and arms in his face like an *****.
- Zipko, on 04/15/2008, -3/+11Just as bad as A-Rod screaming during a catch to try to make someone drop it. Not illegal, but definitly bush league
- bwiney, on 04/15/2008, -3/+11when shenanigans like that are going on its up to the defenseman in front of the net to get him out of there whether its on his feet, face, or ass.
- serif69, on 04/15/2008, -5/+13He was clearly saying, "Let's play hockey," meaning, "Knock it the ***** off."
- finger11, on 04/15/2008, -14/+22Granted I'm a NY Rangers fan and I would absolutely hate Avery if he was on another team, but I know everyone that is a Rangers fan can agree we love him on our team. And that move was one of the most insane things I've ever seen in sports. Nowhere in the books is it [was] an illegal call, but apparently Brodeur punching him in the face multiple times isn't either.
- TimmyGUNZ, on 04/15/2008, -1/+9http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/ny-sprang1556 ...
"A person close to the Rangers - who did not practice yesterday - said Drury wasn't chastising Avery, just relating what the referees were calling out." - iruber1337, on 04/15/2008, -1/+9No Avery thread would be complete without...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B53W-7tk4Uw (promise it isn't a rickroll) - SuperMoses, on 04/15/2008, -1/+9You seem to think that it requires skill to do what Avery does and the reason players play ike Avery is because they don't have his skill. Wrong, others don't do what Avery does because they don't want to act like an ass. Anyone can act like an ass, Avery just chooses to do that and that merits no praise
- TimmyGUNZ, on 04/15/2008, -6/+13Wrong.
Prior to the rule change, Rule 75 said:
"Rule 75 in the NHL rule book pertains to unsportsmanlike conduct, including assessment of minor, bench and misconduct penalties for throwing objects, profanity, biting and hair-pulling during altercations."
That passage that you posted was added because of Avery.
He was breaking no rules, he simply was exploiting a loophole which the NHL just closed.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/ny-sprang1556 ... - inactive, on 04/15/2008, -4/+11Ask NHL players. I am sure you think it is easy. But that is only becuase you are ignorant.
- inactive, on 04/15/2008, -4/+11Give me a ***** break...you are talking about a "moral" code in hockey?
- TimmyGUNZ, on 04/15/2008, -4/+11Drury wasn't on his case. Drury was just reminding him to keep his stick down so he didn't draw a high sticking penalty.
- BryanG412, on 04/15/2008, -5/+12I don't think the NHL needed to announce a special rule for this, the refs should have just called the unsportsman-like conduct penalty on the spot. Avery stooped pretty low...I think someone from the Devil's should have roughed him up for that
- donte, on 04/15/2008, -0/+6It would be a stupid rule. As a goalie you get screened all of the time. The only difference is that this guy was facing the goalie while he did it and waved his stick in the air. The guy doing the screening has now taken himself out of the play leaving you with 4 players anyway. You wanna waste a puck handler for that, fine. It's not going to work anyway. If you're out of the crease and not hitting anybody, do an irish jig for all I care. Don't turn hockey into a sport full of knee jerk reaction rules. It takes away from the game.
- thatsmyaibo, on 04/15/2008, -0/+6Twice. And a punch to the face. The refs must hate Avery as much as everyone else does.
- IronDuke83, on 04/15/2008, -5/+11Yeah, not so much. A douchebag is a douchebag no matter what team they play for.
- TimmyGUNZ, on 04/15/2008, -0/+6You are comparing apples to oranges.
Avery was waving his hands and stick in front of Brodeur. He wasn't interfering with him physically, and everything listed in the rule prior to the change involved physical contact.
The refs didn't blow it by not issuing a call. They were right in letting it go as the rules stood.
Using "including, but not limited to" in your argument is a slippery slope. - Caulfield, on 04/15/2008, -0/+5Actually, the rule is not being changed. In order for a rule to be changed, it must be put forth by the General managers (usually with input from the Competition Committee) and approved by the Board of Governors and (in cases concerning protective equipment) the Players Association. The wording was a memo to coaches, referees, and players on how the existing rule will be applied. The wording from Colin Campbell will be added to the referees' case book, which elaborates the rules with particular examples such as this.
- 350Zed, on 04/15/2008, -1/+6Spoken like someone who's never been man enough to lace up and play the game.
- jonnyeuchre, on 04/15/2008, -0/+5Drury told him to keep the stick down. Rightly so, but that's it
- quarkie, on 04/15/2008, -11/+16It's unsportsmanlike conduct, it's in the rule book. This isn't a new rule it's clarification:
"An unsportsmanlike conduct minor penalty (Rule 75) will be interpreted and applied, effective immediately, to a situation when an offensive player positions himself facing the opposition goaltender and engages in actions such as waving his arms or stick in front of the goaltender's face, for the purpose of improperly interfering with and/or distracting the goaltender as opposed to positioning himself to try to make a play."
Rule 75 is already on the books, they are simply saying this should have been enacted in that instance. - Coffeedemon, on 04/15/2008, -1/+6No its sad that you're worrying about that when there have only been around 3 games played per series so far.
- jonnyeuchre, on 04/15/2008, -6/+11
There is nothing wrong with it. People stand in front of the goalie all the time; so he turned around. big deal. in fact, it seems like the obvious thing to do.
You want to fix it, take the instigator rule out. Send Clarkson over to talk to Avery about it. End of problem - bluecatspy, on 04/15/2008, -0/+5There is a big difference between promoting and allowing. The fighters still get a 5 minutes penalty.
- Weip, on 04/15/2008, -3/+8Avery sucks!
- chesscat, on 04/15/2008, -1/+6If it had been in front of Patrick Roy he would have cracked Avery's skull with his stick.
- fletcher008, on 04/15/2008, -0/+5but if avery was facing the other way it would be totally legal.
- Jeffler, on 04/15/2008, -0/+4Then give us a working one, you fool
- ostracize, on 04/15/2008, -1/+5Tie Domi was someone you could respect. He was a small guy who played fairly and honestly and If someone pissed him off he'd pummel that guy to the ice. Avery on the other hand takes cheap shots and plays unfairly and when someone pisses him off, he just runs away so he can harass again on the next shift. When opportunity knocks, Avery is going to suffer a career ending injury from a clean hit.
- Kronos6948, on 04/15/2008, -1/+5The issue with what you quoted from the rule is that each instance cited in the rule involves some form of physical contact. By your interpretation, a player celebrating a goal can be considered unsportsmanlike conduct.
- shakin, on 04/15/2008, -4/+8The whole thing has been blown out of proportion. Screening the goalie is an important strategy for most teams and fans even get upset if their team isn't screening the opposing goaltender enough. Is the league's position really that players are allowed to block the goaltender's view as long as they pretend to be in the play?
The only difference here was that Avery was waving his arms around. -
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