What is Digg?Sponsored by Dragon Age: Origins
See the new YouTube feature trailer for Dragon Age: Origins view!
youtube.com/DragonAge - EA presents BioWare's new dark fantasy epic Dragon Age: Origins. '9/10' from Game Informer.
66 Comments
- Nauree, on 01/24/2009, -8/+27How the hell is this on the front page? Oh wait. A 19 year-old dude from the United States who joined Digg on December 11th, 2008
Dugg 5,779. Thats 131 diggs a day. 27 Comments. 31 submitted. 9 made popular. - podwich, on 01/25/2009, -0/+10No, it's not. Triage is at work in ERs. More sick, first serve.
- Pake, on 01/25/2009, -2/+11"This kind of chauvinistic neglect happens all the time."
No, you just had a crummy doctor. Happens to a lot of people regardless of sex. - SlowFoodRules, on 01/25/2009, -0/+9you're kidding, right? b/c the ER is not first come/first serve.
- JonLatane, on 01/24/2009, -5/+13So both men and women spent an average of 34 minutes in the care of emergency personnel, but women were 52% more likely to have times above 45 minutes? This means that women must also have been more likely to have wait times significantly below the 34 minutes.
In other words, this is just a result of the random variations that occur in any data set. Oh, and a sensationalist headline to attempt to make it seem interesting and/or significant. - rynsa, on 01/24/2009, -3/+11These comments are really disappointing. Can you juvenile little punks grow up for one damn minute?! Imagine that was your momma in the ER, or maybe even (and I'm being very generous here) your girlfriend...
The failures of our modern healthcare system are apparently boundless. - LocalDocal, on 01/25/2009, -1/+8According to the article, BOTH men and women have spent longer times waiting. The only difference is that of the percentage that gets delayed, more seems to be women. However, the same article also says that it is likely to be because heart problems in women takes longer to diagnose than men, which explains why more gets a delay.
This is the kind of ***** articles I hate. I hate articles which takes things out of context, articles which makes something big out of nothing, and articles which sensationalizes headlines/subtitles in order to get more hits. This one fits into the last category; the headline and first paragraph suggests sexism while the body makes it clear there's a logical, medical reason for it. - blankman, on 01/24/2009, -2/+9The ***** that goes on in hospitals is so bad that people can't even begin to have a clue until they experience it themselves. Having had many relatives in long term hospital care, I can tell you that if you're not watching their every move, and keep making noise, they will throw you in a corner and let you die. (ESPECIALLY if you're considered old).
Just recently one of my relatives in the hospital for internal bleeding was told she was going to be sent home that day despite the fact that the bleeding wasn't stopped and blood count was getting lower. When we said that's not acceptable and we'd fight it through medicare, the doctor threw a hissy fit and stormed out of the room.
10 years ago when another relative was in another hospital the doctor there was rolling his eyes when questions were being asked, like "how dare you ask me, I'm the almighty doctor who knows best".
And I live in the Boston area, where we have the best hospitals in the country.
So I can imagine the ***** that goes on elsewhere. - morgino, on 01/24/2009, -1/+7Right is right. How many women go to the doctor when something doesnt quite feel right? Men barely go when they have a broken leg. I remember when I broke my nose I just let it bleed out and dealt with it. I have an ugly scar and now wish I would have gone, but that is neither here nor there
- inactive, on 01/24/2009, -0/+5Good thing you don't work in a hospital, then.
- bnut, on 01/25/2009, -1/+5I've been working in an ER for the past year so maybe I can shed some light on what goes on behind the doors. First off, if you never have worked in an ER you have no idea how hectic it can get sometimes. The town I live in is relatively small and we usually get about 70-90 patients that come through triage on a 12 hour day shift. That is not including the 10-15 ambulatory patients we would get on the same shift. So that means we have to sift through 100 people to find the real emergencies. I would say about 80-90 percent of the patients we see are on medicare and use the emergency room as their regular doctor.
Patients that come through the front door are met by the secretary who puts them in the system. If the patient is having chest pain is of certain age then the secretary calls the nurse's station and alerts the staff and the triage nurse that there is a chest pain patient there. That's when they send me to the triage room to do an EKG. I bring the EKG to the ER physician and he determines what to do from there. So if you're having chest pain because you've had a cold the past week and you have a normal sinus rhythm then guess what; you're butt is going to wait with everyone else out there. But if there is any possibility of a heart attack we throw every precautionary measure on you. The speed of your treatment also depends on your age. A 20 year old with chest pain is not taken as seriously as a 50 year old with chest pain.
All of this can take anywhere between 10-20 minutes. It all depends on how many people are out there with stupid ***** or if there are trauma patients in the ER. And when we have trauma patients, the whole ER pretty much stands still. There is only one or two doctors ever in the ER. So when someone needs a doctor constantly at his bedside to keep him alive that means no one else is being seen. Trauma patients are kind of like the slow drivers that are in front of a traffic jam, it just keeps on building up behind them.
If you're having chest pain and you don't want to go through all the triage bs call an ambulance. You go straight to the back and park you right by the nurse's; they can't ignore you there. Another thing is to tell your nurse and doctor EVERYTHING. We had a girl recently that was having chest pains but she failed to mention she snorted cocaine that morning. She ended up rupturing one of her coronary arteries in the waiting room and died in a room. We've heard it all before and there is nothing to be embarrassed about.
Sure there could be improvements made, but we really do the best we can do. One day I will have my MD and I hope to get hired at the same ER I am working at now because I feel I could make some changes there that could make it a much better health service. If anyone has any questions I would gladly answer them to the best of my ability. - lisaawesome, on 01/25/2009, -0/+4lol I just realized the other day that I no longer own a single dress. Yay for being a tomboy.
- podwich, on 01/25/2009, -2/+6Women tend to have more atypical cardiac-caused chest pain than do men. This leads to more difficulty in diagnosis. This results of this study are not surprising. Outrage is rather misplaced here.
- siszam, on 01/24/2009, -8/+12I went to my doctor twice with chest and lung pain. He told me I was having an anxiety attack. I switched to a female doctor who ordered some tests and found out I had a lung infection. If I was having a heart attack I would have died. I went to the same male doctor over and over for years for nerve pain in my feet. He suggested I "talk to someone". After some research on Google I threatened to sue unless he referred me to the neurology department. He did. Neurology told me I have peripheral neuropathy, put me on meds and the pain went away in 24 hours.
This kind of chauvinistic neglect happens all the time. - AriaStar, on 01/25/2009, -0/+4Your ER =! all ERs
I went to the ER in so much pain I could hardly breathe. I was brought in in a wheel chair, my abdomen dark red and visibly very swollen, triage showed my BP to be about 180/120, temp of 106 (yes, 106), I was a level 4, about the lowest possible. Took TEN HOURS to get be back. I don't have a large intestine, and my small had ruptured. I had gone into septic shock and my blood ox dropped below 60%, comatose for the sexy six weeks. A swollen abdomen with blood and ***** visible through my skin wasn't severe enough to get me in back until ten hours had passed. - drhuntzzz, on 01/25/2009, -1/+4An interesting statistic. Here's a paramedic's thoughts. We are trained to minimize on scene time if at all possible. We do not want to spend 45 minutes before heading to the hospital with a patient that has clear signs of heart attack. Further more, if we believe the condition is not serious, we don't want to be out of service for a long period of time. I would really like to know why an ambulance be more likely to be delayed with a woman. I could guess that it might be because woman have much less severe symptoms versus men an with AMIs (heart attacks). This means if the symptoms of a heart attack are recognized it could take to convince a woman, who may have only nausea or a feeing of indigestion, to go to the hospital versus the man with severe crushing chest pain.
Once in the hospital women are delayed because their symptoms are less severe and the possibility of an AMI is overlooked. Pre-hospital on the other hand, if we think that it is minor we'd either get a quick refusal, or just take them to the hospital and let them deal with it.
I'd really be interested to know why transport was delayed, but I doubt it has to do directly with the inability to recognize an AMI in women. - SadMartigan, on 01/24/2009, -4/+7I didn't really understand.
Does this mean that, after the ambulance arrived at the hospital, woman spent a statistically significant longer time (than men) waiting for the hospital's doctors to start treatment on them?
If this is wrong, please explain. - mrkmrk, on 01/24/2009, -4/+7"I'm angry because people who put more time into Digg than I do are more likely to get stories on the front page. Wah wah wah. Mommy? Someone maternal!"
- SadMartigan, on 01/24/2009, -1/+4Yes.
- mGARANDEUR1, on 01/25/2009, -1/+4Sociologists try to use this idea to show that women are treated as inferiors. The simple fact is that it is harder to diagnose women with a heart attack because they show symptoms that could be a number of other things. With men, they feel tightness in the heart and pain in the left arm - very obvious.
- Biscuitz, on 01/25/2009, -1/+3Lol, you know nothing about women.
- bnut, on 01/25/2009, -0/+2I never said my ER is the same as all others. But in general emergency rooms are run similarly. The fast paced nature of emergency medicine lends itself to mistakes. Who knows what your triage nurse was thinking when she saw you because just one of your symptoms would need immediate care. I can't speak for all emergency rooms but when mistakes are made like that they certainly have to answer to them. That nurse might have lost her triage privileges after your case.
It sounds like you have Crohn's disease and if you do, it makes the nurse's actions even more disgusting. Next time if something happens like that call the ambulance; you should get seen much sooner. - stroudma, on 01/26/2009, -0/+2nah, dreamincode, you fail, pretty sure that is exactly what it means
- bnut, on 01/25/2009, -0/+2The foundation of all emergency rooms are their doctors. Every ER has their good and bad physicians. The level of care you receive in the ER could very well depend on what day of the week you show up. It seems like your father showed up on the wrong day.
- Pake, on 01/25/2009, -3/+5Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm probably missing something, but 11% of 647 is ~71 people. At 52% higher chance for women, that would be 43 women and 28 men. Maybe it's just me, but that seems likely a VERY small sample size to really determine whether or not women statistically spend more time delayed. If you take a percentage of that compared to the 647, that is 6.5% of women and 4.3% of men, easily within a margin of error of 3% which one could view as normal for this type of study.
I find this study to be inconclusive and requiring far more data before people can whine about sexism. - Biscuitz, on 01/25/2009, -2/+4I must be missing out, I don't even own a dress or makeup..
- CanceledCzech, on 01/25/2009, -1/+3Somebody call the Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance.
- Filter, on 01/25/2009, -0/+2I'm sure most hospitals, like yours, do their job well. Unfortunately I've not had good experiences with hospitals. For example, my dad went to the hospital with chest pains. He has a history of heart problems and a previous heart attack. The ER was going to send him home stating he had angina even though what he needed was a triple bypass. Thankfully his heart doctor happened to be in the hospital at the time and prevented them from releasing him to go home. The doctor had him transfered to a hospital that knows that their doing and he got the triple bypass he needed.
All I'm saying is that there are idiots everywhere and sometimes in the ER too. - SadMartigan, on 01/25/2009, -1/+3Thanks for the acclaration.
I wonder how they accounted for the tendency that men have to never get medical attention until it is really serious. - thenativeraver, on 01/25/2009, -1/+2Well, bitchy old men are easier to get along with, just think of george carlin.
What do you think the ratio of old people to young people that have heart problems are? I'm 100% positive that the elderly people out number the young. - akatsuki, on 01/25/2009, -2/+3Thank you. Also women are just a lower risk group for heart attack, period. It is sort of like screening for breast cancer. Yes, a man can get it, but much less likely.
- lisaawesome, on 01/25/2009, -1/+2Yeah I've had horrible experiences with both female and male doctors so I think it's just that they are ***** doctors.
- sh4rkb1t3, on 01/24/2009, -2/+3no it doesnt
- AriaStar, on 01/25/2009, -1/+2Well, msaleem has said that if you friend him, he'll help make your stories popular. I'm tempted to test this. Take my own history so far and see what changes if I "friend" him, take him back off, see what happens.
- coreydoucorey, on 02/11/2009, -0/+1Cool! I couldn't see any graphics in IE7 or FF. http://manxl.org
- glbbrown, on 01/25/2009, -0/+1I see NYTimes likes to recycle articles from other sources. This was on the web about a week ago.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/healthNewsMolt/idUKT ...
http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20090113/g ...
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/hea ...
http://www.boston.com/news/health/blog/2009/01/wom ...
Times must be hurting.... - Biscuitz, on 01/25/2009, -2/+3Lol, men are bigger babies when they're sick than women are.
Either you're gay, or you need to be.
And yes, only old people have heart problems, just like only smokers get lung cancer.... - Maynza, on 01/24/2009, -3/+4WOAH 31 MY GOD
- Biscuitz, on 01/25/2009, -2/+3Jeez, there are a lot of ignorant m.. *cough* little boys, on Digg. I'd really hate to be any woman in their lives =/.
- AriaStar, on 01/25/2009, -1/+1I don't see how the hell this is front-page material.
- CanceledCzech, on 01/25/2009, -1/+1This is why we need superman.
- lisaawesome, on 01/25/2009, -2/+2When I dugg your comment "a fatal error occurred." I am afraid I've angered the gods of sensationalism.
- inactive, on 01/24/2009, -3/+3I like that his most recent favorite is "'Man boob' reduction surgery increases by nearly half "
- Justin676, on 01/25/2009, -1/+1Meaning what exactly?
- Justin676, on 01/25/2009, -1/+1BWAHAHAHA. That's a joke right? This is exactly why we DON'T need socialized medicine. It's a trainwreck everywhere that has it and it'd be a trainwreck here. I work in healthcare and let me tell you, socialized medicine would be a disaster.
With socialized medicine, people would be waiting 3x-4x as long to get necessary care. Do yourself a favor and google "patient stacking". Socialized medicine is crap. - Biscuitz, on 01/25/2009, -2/+2Well quite frankly, I don't want to be around a bitchy old man, thanks.
- randumbusername, on 01/25/2009, -2/+2i know i know. men are holding women back even though women have a higher life expectancy....even though government is more concerned with the health of females than males... it's a male conspiracy.
take that ***** to alternet. - blax1, on 01/25/2009, -1/+1lol @ these worthless "studies".
- AbsurdParadox, on 01/25/2009, -2/+2Please elaborate.
-
Show 51 - 73 of 73 discussions
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is