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- wozley, on 10/10/2007, -2/+74"Do not resuscitate!"
"I'm serious, put your defibrillator away."
"Look jerk, if I wanted CPR, I'd ***** tattoo PLEASE GIVE CPR, asshat." - chicoer2001, on 10/10/2007, -8/+59Let people decide when they want to live or die. The Republicans should be for this, after all they're for personal responsibility.
- OneHine, on 10/10/2007, -12/+41The Republicans also *say* they're the party of fiscal responsibility and *say* that they support the troops. But it seems that there is a wide gulf between talking and doing.
- kent1146, on 10/10/2007, -13/+35Republicans are experts at hypocritical double-speak.
Bash the gays and gay marriage, but get caught soliciting male sex in a truck stop bathroom, or from a male prostitute that also deals you meth.
Be the party of family values, but visit so many Gentlemens' Clubs when the RNC is in town, that strip club owners have to import strippers to cover the demand.
Be the party that preserves life, but don't even blink twice when it comes time to slaughter and bomb the hell out of brown people overseas. - tehpwnrate, on 10/10/2007, -6/+28Psh, give me a break. If she's concerned about Terri Schiavo situations, that's what her living will is for, as the doctor said. The tattoo is stupid because no EMT in their right mind would stop trying to resuscitate her, even if she has a will that says to stop. The Iowa doctor is right, and this story is a non-issue.
- soulknowledge, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17how are they gonna read that when she's not stretching the wrinkles away?
- kent1146, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15Maybe the doctors thought that "DO NOT RESUSCITATE" was the name of a gang, from when Ms. Wohlford was on the inside.
- Bhatch514, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14I would hate to be the tattoo artist that had to tattoo a 80 year old chest.
- satanatnmtedu, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11If the woman is already dead, then the EMS will not be able to do anything.
- wozley, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10I'll keep that in mind next time I take someone out.
- takamalak, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12You're right. He was talking specifically of Republican males. The females are uptight, frigid bitches, that look the other way when their husbands are whoring around for other women, men, or young boys.
- BioHMMWV, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Sorry, but the CPR class that I attended says that the person who does not wish to be resuscitated, must have a salmon colored DNR (do not resuscitate) paper in his/her wallet. A tattoo does not qualify.
- OutThisLife, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Krazy? Are we back at the time of Geocities now?
- merreborn, on 10/10/2007, -6/+12People *are* allowed to decide when they want to live or die. There are two ways of making your decision clearly known to medical personnel: an advance directive, and/or a living will. Tattoos are not legally binding. Nor should they be.
- wozley, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6There are also people who find value in the lack of human life in another. I call it insurance.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7If you get a tattoo that says "Do not resuscitate" based on a song title you deserve to die.
- Dipster, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7Like anyone is going to check their wallet first...
- vanbacon, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8Ahh I'm pretty sure if she paid the money to have a guy tatto that on her chest She Has made her choice Use some common sense people.
- retawd, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Asshat is an underused insult. I'd like to hear *****-nose, asshat and dildo-beak more often.
- malkiholic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I love euthanasia... in your case.
- fleury29, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Buried for the use of "k" in "krazy" That was never cool dude.
- brjndr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4IAAL, I write advanced directives, and I can give you one really good reason that her having DO NOT RESUSCITATE” tattoo'd is not good enough, and it's a cornerstone to holding a document valid against someone.
She didn't sign it.
That may not be the only reason, but it's a really good one. See a lawyer to check the law as it pertains to you in your jurisdiction. - rgaino, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Please, there's a huge difference between "want to die" and "do not want to be resuscitated".
- mandarin, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6I actually saw some people with the tattoo 'angel of death' and I didnt believe them either...
If you want to die, dont make other people decide for you. - jegerpenge, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8I wonder if Dr. Purtle would force a Jehovah's Witness to have a blood transfusion? It's 100% unethical to impose one's moral beliefs on a patient. First thing we're taught in nursing school
- CaptainRotundo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I am training to be an EMT in New York State right now and I can tell you that there is only a single document that should be accepted for a DNR here by Emergency personnel. Lets say I come to this woman's house, and her son says "Don't resuscitate, its against her wishes" AND she has this tattoo. Guess what if I don't see an out of hospital DNR and I DON'T act I can be sued and would be in a whole lot of trouble. Even by the family members that instructed me not to.
If you want a DNR get the proper legal documents for it and keep them handy. If your state doesn't have a proper procedure for that then start lobbying your representatives. - Juano11, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I'm a physician and have no problem honoring a person's desire to forgo heroic measures that may or may not prolong their life.
But, there are appropriate ways to express your wishes. Such as documenting them through a Living Will. A tattoo is not the way to do it. If I came across this patient and saw the tattoo in the process of administering ACLS, I'm honestly not sure what I would do. I've witheld CPR and even removed life support for patients without a documented Living Will, but that was after long discussions with multiple family members who all consistently expressed that the patient would not want these measures to prolong what was likely going to be a persistent vegetative state. In these cases, the event that eventually ended the patient's life occurred after these discussions and I am comfortable that I did the right thing for the patient.
Finding someone down and then discovering this tattoo is an entirely different scenario. On the face of it, the intent seems clear "do not recusitate". But, there are many reasons that a simple tattoo are not sufficient. Perhaps that patient has a history of some disease (say cancer) that was unlikely to be cured, she had the tattoo, but subsequently did have successful curative treatment. She now loves her life, has expressed as much to her family, has revoked her living will, and is scheduled to have the tattoo removed tomorrow. Unfortunatley she's found down tonight and I withold CPR because I saw the tattoo. If I were to let her die, I would be doing a disservice to her while basing my decision on a poorly accepted means of communication.
Perhaps she's really proud of her Grandson who is the lead singer for "Do Not Recusitate". Sounds silly, yes, but you never know.
Bottom line, there are appropriate ways to communicate your wishes to healthcare providers. Living Wills, Medic Alert Bracelets, etc... A tattoo is not one of them. - vanbacon, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6Right and I'm sure If I was gonna wack someone I'd bring a tattoo gun. Please what a load of *****. The above average criminal isn't smarter than that. please stop thinking of impossible scenerios to scare us all and use some freaking common sense.
- dajuggernaut, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"In case of emergency call Dr. Jack Kevorkian"
- GlitchEnzo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"I think he took his wallet!"
- jegerpenge, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Although, legally, I do understand that she would have had to have a direct order not to resuscitate. She let herself down in that regard.
- osbjmg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Having fewer taxpayers is a bad thing for them!
- dvdrtrgn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2That has a nice ring to it. Might be the first tattoo I bother to get...
- nymphetamine, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5mmmm.....cake.....
- wozley, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Wow I never thought of that. Maybe her tattoo should went like this:
Do Not Resuscitate.
No el Resuscitate.
Ne pas Ressusciter.
Nicht Resuscitate.
生き返らせてはいけない. - spasticjedi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2It's a ***** system. That's why when my grandfather died, we waited an hour before telling anyone, because we knew that at least a few members of our family would try to get an ambulance over to resuscitate him, and that was not what he wanted at all; even though he had a living will, it meant nothing outside the walls of a hospital. Even with a DNR order, it legally doesn't have to be honored until you're IN the hospital. Not in the ambulance.
- wozley, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Not true! They'll have enough time to figure out what DNR stands for.
- zombiedepot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2K stands for extra craziness.
- Godlike, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2LOL, trust me, the typical tattoo shop guy (or gal) doesn't care. They have seen it ALL.
- wozley, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2That doesn't stop people from entering the EXIT ONLY's in Wal-mart.
I think a tattoo of "I HAVE INTERNAL RECTAL WARTS!!" would work so much better. - tenchimato, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Like merreborn said, tattoos are not legally binding. Who knows if the person who got this tattoo wasn't thinking: "Man, I am so trendy with this. Chicks/boys dig emo-ish tattoos!"
- MiDri, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Or die in a state that does!
- wozley, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I care! I was gonna get a similar tattoo, and this story has saved my life!
Err, saved my death! - globus1149, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Not sure where you are from, but here in PA, your family members can override any decision you make. When our family member with a living will (no feeding tubes, etc) and DNR (written in HUGE letters on her chart) was dying, certain family members (her daughters) insisted on feeding tubes and, as a result, she suffered for another 5 weeks... also, as a result, I don't talk to them anymore....
- Goner, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2a sharpie would probably suffice...
- HOOKSTER1231, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2there was a pic. did you RTFA?
- CaptainRotundo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I have no idea what you are talking about. If you have the proper legal documents in your state you are covered. This is also the reason that you have to be very careful when picking a health care proxy, people will just name a family member and when the time comes to make the touch decisions it turns out the person doesn't have the will power or stomach for it.
- Blandyman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Sometimes, upon resuscitation, you're stuck in a vegetative state. Look at Terry Schiavo. Sometimes, brain damage can be so severe that resuscitation puts you in a state of *****-ness.
Some people, like myself, would much rather live their life as best as possible, and upon reaching the point where I'm supposed to die (say, a heart attack or car accident, whatever may be my demise) it happens and I'm not left in a bad way.
My uncle was shot in the neck 24 years ago. His spinal cord was cut and he required 3 blood transfusions. On top of all that, he was in the hospital for about a year, and he has remained a C4 quadraplegic (full head movement, but nothing below the neck) for all that time. Mind you, it happened when he was 20.
I know that if that were ever to happen to me, I would much rather just die. He tries to live the most normal of lives he can, but it makes it hectic for the rest of us, and his psychosis is getting out of hand... just the other day, he had a mental breakdown and he thought it was 1987... he forgot who i was (born in 1991) and pretty much everything post-'87.
Again, I personally don't want to die... I hope I live to be 150 if possible. But if I'm unhealthy/unlucky, I would much rather be left to die (if my heart has actually stopped) than risk being screwed over by the resuscitation efforts of well-meaning EMTs. - nuflux, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3I call it "mettling in someone else's ***** business." Keep your "religion" out of my personal life.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3It's called the Persian Gulf
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