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- writedawg, on 10/12/2007, -71/+248After Lilly relapsed her mother and caregiver Minnie Smith said: "The good Lord let me know she's all right, he brings her back to visit every so often and I'm thankful for that."
Sounds like the Lord is kind of a dick. Why doesn't he just let her stay awake? If the Lord was jerking me around like that - I wouldn't be thanking him, I'd be telling him where to shove it. Must be nice to get all the credit for every good thing that happens and never have to answer for anything bad. - ThinkBox, on 10/12/2007, -6/+149I think my first words would be "Thanks for not pulling the plug"
And the next would be "Book deal!" - Julolidine, on 10/12/2007, -2/+85You guys need to learn the difference between a coma and brain dead. Brain dead = no recovery. Even the summary of this digg includes 'vegetative state', when she was in a minimally conscious state. Coma = possible recovery. Thats why we pull the plug on brain dead people, and let the ones in coma stay in comas.
Minimally conscious does not equate to brain dead. - nixonrichard, on 10/12/2007, -9/+83I've always wanted to find someone who's been in a coma for a while and ask them a bunch of questions about what they think happened while they were out.
Which celebrities will announce they are gay?
Will Bush get reelected?
Will Michael Jackson ever do "that" again?
New Orleans: wet or dry?
Will Al Gore become a movie star?
etc. - ThinkBox, on 10/12/2007, -6/+59Sorry one more^
"36 Mafia won WHAT?" - freehunter, on 10/12/2007, -8/+51I'll admit, Armor, I lol'd at your comment, but no one uses God damn seriously. If the person is really religious, he/she won't say it at all, since it uses the Lord's name in vain, and if they are not really religious, they are using it because it is a common expletive.
- tdowling, on 10/12/2007, -1/+42Armor1901, "God damn it" doesn't technically mean that you're cursing God...you're actually requesting God to damn something. As in, "God, please damn this door to hell."
- loki440, on 10/12/2007, -3/+42How long have I been out? Six YEARS! Fill me in mom, what's happened since then...
Wait Brad Pitt LEFT Jennifer Anniston? What the ***** is a "Brangelina"?
So you're telling me a black man has a legitimate shot to be President. What's his name...you've got to be ***** me!
Ok explain it to me again, we didn't we get those bastards who flew the planes into the World Trade Center, but we invaded Iraq. Forgive me, I've suffered some brain damage...why did we do that again?
Kramer said WHAT!
...well Mom you really can't expect Brittney to wear panties, she's a whore....
KFed... that's not real Mom. Now you're just making ***** up! - mediaphile, on 10/12/2007, -4/+41Yeah, the article mentions she's woken up for briefer period a few times before. Title is sort of sensationalist.
- maddendude, on 10/12/2007, -16/+51I wish I could get sleep like that. Talk about sleeping like a log...
- Angostura, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31Or perhaps "BOO!"
or "Braaaaains" to really freak them out. - nickstl77, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32The article is a bit sensationalized. This is actually fairly common for most coma victims who experienced brain damage, but not enough damage to keep them in a persistent vegetative state. I'm not sure why ABC picked this one up, must have been a slow news day.
Also, although the title says "Woman awakens after 6 years..", it then goes on to say she actually woke up for several days just 8 months ago, and has done this several times now. So, why say she has been asleep for six years, when she just woke up 8 months prior. - goodbeershow, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32First words................."Ta Da!"
- chongli, on 10/12/2007, -17/+45Or maybe it is because god doesn't exist. It amazes me how people ascribe the weirdest things to their deity in some sort of attempt to cope with reality. As an atheist it's difficult for me to relate to this woman on that level. I'd be giving more credit to the doctors and nurses that care for my loved one, but that's just me.
- nickstl77, on 10/12/2007, -5/+27Please, enough of the Terry Shiavo comments. Shiavo had 10 times the amount of brain damage this lady has. It's not even close to being similar.
- EBFoxbat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24Read AT LEAST the first paragraph.... "awoke this week for three days... before slipping back into what her doctor calls a minimally conscious state."
- sctechguy, on 10/12/2007, -11/+32If you're going to do a tasteless joke, at least do it right:
Q: What's the hardest part of a vegetable to eat?
A: The wheelchair. - WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27In this case, 'cans of worms' are a good thing! People need to wake up and start learning, instead of just reacting based on their ignorant assumptions and beliefs
- HellifIno, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Vegetative != minimally conscious, mmkay?
- SultanTravi, on 10/12/2007, -19/+35@armor
Calm down man, that's just an expression. I say it all the time, or if I'm shocked, I'll say "Jesus Christ!"
That doesn't mean I'm actually cursing God for misfortune. - Asianwaste, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19Huh?
- EndersGame, on 10/12/2007, -10/+24Yea in fact just today I got pissed at my mom and yelled god damn it and that turned into another HUGE argument about me not respecting god and saying his name in vain. I just laughed for the most part, but either way I don't think you are cursing god for your hand getting slammed in the door. You are really saying god unleash your wrath upon this door for injuring me, or in other words god damn this door. And thats for the .01% of people that literally mean goddamn it when they say it.
- Asianwaste, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Probably exhausted. Practically every muscle in the body is atrophied. She's still probably trying to wiggling her big toe.
- terribly1, on 10/12/2007, -15/+283 words every 8 months or so.
Hospital bills in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
I'm sure it's all worth it.
Well either way, the Lord has a plan.
Right? ... Right?! - mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16For some people, hearing 3 words from their loved one after months or even years is worth more than not having them at all. Hundreds of thousands of dollars is a little price to pay: life is not measured like that.
- Tirial, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18Buried for misuse of vegitative state in the title.
- Obsidian743, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Or maybe he has no clue what he's talking about? People blame God for the bad ***** ALL the time. Its why even Christians (God forbid, lest ardent atheists wale and chastise then) slip up once in a while - it's called backsliding - or being a hypocrite AKA being human. It is NOT easy being a Christian at all. What no one seems to care about or "get" when it comes to God and Christianity is that living the Christian life is about maintaining the most important *relationship* in their life - with the very Creator. Relationships go through ups and downs. You don't harp on the bad times, you learn from them, keep the faith that you'll get through them, and praise each other for all the good times. No one intentionally does bad things but sometimes we let them happen. Regardless of the situation I find it appropriate to thank my Lord simply because of the incredible faith and love I have for Him and the desire to see the relationship succeed.
- Arkonnan, on 10/12/2007, -10/+19>Must be nice to get all the credit for every good thing that happens and never have to answer for anything bad.
That's what they invented Satan for. ;p - betterth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@Chongli
You may be praising them for their constant care, but it's those caregivers that will be the first ones to say "I have no idea why they're waking up. I'm not doing anything special. I'm hooking the IV's up right and monitoring the stats, we're not administering and treatment, just sustaining life support, so theres really nothing I'm doing that's causing this".
I'm not implying it's a higher power, but a lot medicine and treatment is purely inexplicable. Perhaps it's just the fortitude of the human body and spirit, or simply our own lack of understanding of biology still, but a lot of ***** happens that a doctor will be completely baffled by. - EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"Hundreds of thousands of dollars is a little price to pay: life is not measured like that."
Ideally every life is priceless. In reality this is not practical. We have limited resources and we make life and death decisions all the time. It could easily cost millions to keep this woman alive--those same millions could be used to fund prenatal programs, buy more body armor for troops, fund cancer research, or any number of other projects that might ultimately save more lives. I'm not saying we should pull the plug. I'm just making the point that the decisions we make to keep some people alive in a very real sense can mean death for others. While it shouldn't be the only criteria, it is important to at least consider cost/benefit factors to ensure we're utilizing our resources in the most productive way.
This pretty much ceases to be a factor if the family is paying for her treatment from their own pocket, but I doubt it. Even if it's insurance and not the state covering expenses there is still a trade off in higher insurance costs, which means fewer people can afford insurance. I know I sound like a cold hearted bastard, but life is full of tough choices. - snarfyboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@kenbones
Caption to go with that photo:
"Left: Scan of normal 25-year-old's brain; Right: Schiavo's 2002 CT scan at age 38 showing the massive loss of brain tissue. The bright dot is an electrode that was implanted as experimental treatment in 1990."
In other words, at the time of that CT scan, Schiavo was on the feeding tube and properly hydrated. The damage has nothing to do with the removal of her feeding tube. - Desolite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8for her it must be like that futurama episode where they have the random time warps with the harlem globe trotters.
- Armor1901, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Here's Terry Shiavo's brain function after her collapse:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/98/Schiavo_catscan.jpg
Left side is regular person's brain, right side is hers. You'd be a fool to think that poor girl had much of anything left to justify keeping her alive
Image courtesy of Wikipedia - Maarek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@Kenbones
When we decide to kill someone because the did something very bad that's acceptable.
When we decide to kill thousands of people so that we can have control of an area of land that's a hard decision but ultimately it's ours to make.
When someone is in a persistive vegitative state, is an overall drain to their family, has little to no cognitive brain function, has been that way for a decade and we decide that it is time to let them die then we are playing God?
I don't know but something seems a bit off about this kind of ethics. - obrysii, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14Why am I not surprised there is religion-bashing about this story?
- Junkyarddawg, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Title is intentionally inaccurate: coma != vegetative state.
Coma = prolonged unconsciousness.
Vegetative state = braindead, zero chance of waking up.
Buried for inaccuracy. - brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Just because someone said the Lord did something doesn't mean he did it. People constantly make the mistake that God is involved with their day-to-day affairs and that all good, and bad, is directly related to an act of God. If this woman had read James 1:13 or Ecclesiastes 9:11 she wouldn't be so sure of that.
- slapded, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8you know what i would do if i awoke from a coma..
2 chicks at once. thats what i would do - PunkHop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Dugg simply for the fact that there's a guy named "Dr. Bjork" in this story.
How awesome is that. - shinynew, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10I have always thought that god damnit was more of a command: God (asking god) Damn (damn it to hell) it (it)
- skytimelapse, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15"Leave me out of this! Earth was an accident anyway."
-God - Asianwaste, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7She's been letting her looks go for 6 years.
- cawpin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7waltdismal - You are a moron who cannot read.
Helliflno - Thank you for the laugh. - aramova, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@Matt2k;
Write a living will then, and tell them to pull the plug on you if you're in that state. Simple, fast, fun and easy.
And you can raffle off tickets on who gets to pull the plug, help pay for putting your butt in the ground! - lintmonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I read it in the first sentence of the article that you're wrong:
A woman who fell into a coma after a heart attack more than six years ago awoke this week for three days and spoke with her family and a television station before slipping back into what her doctor calls a minimally conscious state. - vanmeir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The article makes clear that she was not in a vegetative state.
- Sornos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4 Or, you know, the novel it was based on.
- irock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Six years? Since she went into coma like March 2001, does she know we went through 911 and Bush waged wars everywhere?
- rasterbator, on 10/12/2007, -11/+15This could have legal implications on whether or not a person should be taken off life support. Maybe that is why ABC picked it up. It opens up a can of worms with families and their decisions to pull the plug or not pull the plug.
- ray901, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@xGORDOx
"No kidding, three articles up from this one is about Newt Gingrich and an affair he had like 10 years ago. wtf?"
If you were paying attention you would have noticed that it was Newt who is talking about this now. Maybe laying the groundwork (read forgiveness) before throwing his hat into the ring for the next election.
You would not have to think "wtf" so often if you actually read the articles -
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