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- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -3/+49It's unfortunate that so many American cities seem designed to encourage sprawl instead.
I would happily take a train to work, and walk to the grocery if it were remotely feasible where I live. - Antioch, on 10/10/2007, -2/+26And thanks to the MTA, whenever it rains we can expect to have to walk all the way to work because the subways are completely crippled.
- crweaks23, on 10/10/2007, -1/+24"Most Americans, including most New Yorkers, think of New York City as an ecological nightmare, a wasteland of concrete and garbage and diesel fumes and traffic jams, but in comparison with the rest of America it's a model of environmental responsibility. By the most significant measures, New York is the greenest community in the United States, and one of the greenest cities in the world. The most devastating damage humans have done to the environment has arisen from the heedless burning of fossil fuels, a category in which New Yorkers are practically prehistoric. The average Manhattanite consumes gasoline at a rate that the country as a whole hasn't matched since the mid-nineteen-twenties, when the most widely owned car in the United States was the Ford Model T. Eighty-two per cent of Manhattan residents travel to work by public transit, by bicycle, or on foot. That's ten times the rate for Americans in general, and eight times the rate for residents of Los Angeles County. New York City is more populous than all but eleven states; if it were granted statehood, it would rank 51st in per-capita energy use."
http://www.walkablestreets.com/manhattan.htm - CannedMango, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21I don't know if it's a sign of the times, but walking, climbing stairs and moving around a lot during the day used to be considered commonplace. The fact that we have to create a metaphor for these as going to a gym really shows how far removed people nowadays are from the people who built up this country.
- acwhite, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18I was never active until I moved to New York. It really changes your perspective. I really appreciate a nice day so much more now and am willing to ride my bike, walk my dog, whatever, whereas when I lived in the mideast, I just sat on my couch.
- UGM2099, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16And with the heat and humidity every subway station can be used for Bikram Yoga classes.
- ploop, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17New York doesn't have much air pollution. You're thinking of Los Angeles.
- fejas, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15Beats driving all day long to and from work if you live in the suburbs, I guess
- orca94, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12You've obviously been to NYC as opposed to watching TV about it.
- baalzebub, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11must be all those Coney Island HotDogs and N.Y. Style Pizzas that give New Yorkers longevity...
- adamkhel, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Every time i visit Manhattan, I see a lot more older people than I do in silicon valley, and they're outside, walking, sitting on park benches, etc.
I went to NYC with a notion that I was going to hate it, it'd be dirty, the people were going to be mean and it'd be a concrete wasteland. My trips there have shown the exact opposite on almost every count. Only problem is, Manhattan makes even silicon valley look inexpensive. - modad, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Just the people that matter.
- Jambi, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Walking sucks? Have fun driving to McDonald's, fatty.
- adamkhel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Wait, you live in Miami?
- nickv, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Are you implying that other places in the country don't have an "army of trucks that come into them everyday to feed them?" That there stuff doesn't come from ships (maybe magical teleportation?) That they don't need power?
That's so stupid. Guess what? That walmart in Geneseo, NY still gets its stuff by train, truck or ship. And guess what? Those folks in Oswego? Use way more power/fuel and energy per capita than any person in NYC. Unless you're implying that everything they need magically teleports there and doesn't also come from China. - mrkmrk, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10The air in New York is a hell of a lot better than in the suburbs surrounding Houston.
- SquigglyP, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9To paraphrase Lewis Black:
"You live in New York. You live in a city made of stairs. Why in the ***** are you paying $150 a month to use a stair-master at the gym?" - superpositioned, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I have lived on a farm upstate and in the city of New York. I got more exercise upstate (because of the farm), but in general I would say that this true. People in the suburbs/country are lazy asses! They need a pickup truck cause a Corolla can't haul their fat ass.
- modiggs, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11Could it also have something to do with having one of the wealthiest populations, and access to the best medical care in the country, if not the world?
- LowRentDiggs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Dug down for thinking everything in life is a zero sum game
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9An honest question, what does the age distribution look like in the city? That is, do the sicker, slower people get pushed out of the city as they age? Of course not all of them, but enough to affect the outcomes? Can modern city dwellers afford their own real estate throughout their golden years? Or, do they sell and move to "flatter" landscapes, skewing the numbers? I have no idea and no predisposition, just wondering.
- Hetman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8The air quality is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. And money problems are stressful regardless of where you live.
- cbthatsme, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Every time I visit friends in New York my effin legs hurt for a week.
I also have a week long hangover. - DirkVA, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Well, fotbr, you have a real point. No one who's "not a people person" should consider living in New York. I grew up in idyllic rural environment. Lived almost all my adult life in Manhattan. When people asked me why I stayed, I said -- with feeling -- "The people."
Six years ago I moved away to live in beautiful, beautiful surroundings. I love it, but I'm so lonely for the exciting and mind-nourishing people I lived with in NYC. I'm moving back, at considerable financial sacrifice. Life is too short to live isolated from people who "get" you, who support you, who depend on you.
That's what I find healthy about New York.
(Hate, hate, hate the inanimate physical environment, though ...) - MacParrot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I always thought they just lived longer just to piss everyone else off.
- orca94, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8People who are complaining about air pollution in NYC really don't know what they're talking about.
The extensive public transportation system in NYC keeps pollution low. - tslag, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7What suburbs do you live in? Most of the suburbs around Chicago are *****.
- Hetman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I tend to agree with you. I live in Chicago not new york. I used to live in the country. And if you look at the amount of Fat women where I came from to the amount of skinny hot women I see living in the city it is not even close. Women are better looking in the city. They have to be because of competition.
- knucklebusted, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8And here I thought it was just because parking was at a premium.
Can the same be said in London? If not, I don't believe the information. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6But they also walk to work.
- Grassmunk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6What the hell are you talking about? Go cry into your large Pizza fatty and get back to NAAFA before they miss you.
- SenorCardgage74, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Yeah, because culture is such a huge hassle.
- martoq, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Your assuming everyone in NYC has money. Wealthy it may be, its spread over a much smaller group.
- kopasa, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7I figured that everyone stayed thin because there were so many people seeing them everyday and they wanted to look good. Competition is more fierce so people have to try harder.
But this makes a lot of sense too, it just doesn't have the same misanthropic view... - lovek, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Finally proving my theory formed during several trips to NYC: people are thin because the food is too expensive to eat and you have to walk long distances to get to it.
- Lboogie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5It may just be that despite these other potential hazards (pollution, getting hit by cabs) just don't come close to the benefits of daily, aerobic exercise
- SenorCardgage74, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5yeah, but in North Dakota, youre not really "living"
- adamkhel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5WTF, pizza is cheaper and better in NYC. Oh, same goes for all beef hot dogs. Mmmm, Papaya King/14th Street Papaya.
- Farnn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Being from NYC I love to walk to get places and it was a huge shock to me when I went to college in Ann Arbor, MI (which is a city to most of the country) that there wasn't really a supermarket in walking distance(there are 3 within 5 blocks of my house). I later found out that there was a supermarket about 10 blocks away but I guess to the people I asked that wasn't walkable.
Even walking to the supermarket I sometimes had to walk on the other side of the road because they only put a sidewalk on one side. When I'm out there I really miss being able to take long walks easily and I like walking with a purpose, not for no reason. I will often walk 20-30 blocks in NYC to get somewhere instead of taking the subway just because I enjoy it. It's a real shame there aren't more places like it. - insanebrain, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5this says it all. ..
http://www.goclipless.com/images/2007/04/03/fat_american_walking_dog_from_car.jpg - kathaclysm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5NYC is nice, all the smog is on the Jersey side where the factories & refineries are located.
- kastro77, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5The city is officially New York, not New York City. You don't see mailing address with "New York City, New York" and Sinatra didn't sing, "It's up to you New York City, New York."
I live in New York County in New York, New York, but why would I go out of my way to say "New York City", when saying "New York" is enough for people to assume I live in Manhattan? - orca94, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Welcome to the U.S.. NYC is the safest with over a million people in the country.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Yeah, a couple hundred years of technological progress can do that sometimes.
- orca94, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7You pollute more living in the suburbs than in a city. The proximity of everything and public transportation in a city lends itself towards less pollution.
Driving your car to work everyday through those wide open spaces is awful for the environment. - ripple01, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4"buried for being LAME"
and so are you. Have a nice day. - lovek, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Probably true of London. But no one ever hears of obesity problems in countries other than the US, so one can only assume everyone else in the world lives naturally healthy, active lifestyles and don't even NEED cities to be laid out like NYC.
- rspeed, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Why did they link to the second page?
- JFrizzle, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4NYC and Philadephia have had a huge impact on sprawl. Just look at the property values of New Jersey and the population explosions in eastern PA. I know, I live there and see the effects.
- SenorCardgage74, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Actually, 8 months New York time is like 20 YEARS of ***** suburban life.
Enjoy "Blockbuster Nights" and fine dining at Applebees, dingus! -
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