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- asdfasdf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+64Tell me about it. My mom has been suffering for two decades but she's A LOT better now. Instead of turning over tables and carrying a knife to bed because the neighbors are plotting to kill her and put her in the fridge (this is what she thought, no exaggeration), she's living a pretty normal life.
She even holds a full time job now. I remember earlier on she would have psychotic episodes while lecturing (she was a professor). That landed her in the psych ward for a while.. but anyway, actually, she's pretty normal except for the fact that she's sometimes too happy, due to the handful of meds she takes daily.
"They (psychs) drugged her up real good now."
Is this line causing him to get dug down? The honest truth is that he's right. Patients are given a A LOT of meds and are forced to take them if they're to stay out of jail / hospital. I used to be against that, but after battling with the illness for 20 years, I've come to just accept that the drugs are necessary if the patient is to lead a normal life. - JKennyE, on 10/12/2007, -2/+63My sister has it and I can tell you that is exactly how she perceived me over time. They (psychs) drugged her up real good now. Now she just sees a blur but she's alot less dangerous to herself and others.
- Crizack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31Here is some more artwork from people who had schizophrenia. http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/nbb421/student2003/epl8/Personal%20Web%20Page.htm#_top
- geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26I think that last cat wants to get me.
- PYREX, on 10/12/2007, -7/+28despite what you might think, not everyone lives on the internet every minute of every day.
get a life. - JKennyE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22Sorry to about your mom. I can sympathize with the situation. I don't know if there IS an alternative to meds. But my sister was not only suicidal she tried to kill me and my mom (would you call that homicidal?). So meds at least got her from trying to kill people and herself. I don't like her zombie state on meds but she hasn't tried to kill anyone in while.
- Eleo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19Those paintings were insanely disturbing. I've always had a fear of losing my sanity somehow, and I think that would be the most frightening way, and not only conceptually...
- wadem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16I find the pictures very interesting. What I find interesting is not how they shift, but the contents of each picture and the story each one tells.
The first one doesn't really speak much to me.
The top right, with the dark background and outlines, shows 'echos' of silence, that the world is changing...A sort of scared of what's happening, a loneliness. The shift to the bottom left is amazing. The cat becomes fractal like. It's also very interesting to see passion and intensity (bright colours, long lines etc) in the bottom right.
I'm not trying to glorify this condition, but I am amazed by these pictures. - Technopundit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Maybe he just got tired of painting boring-looking cats. The later images kinda remind me of Persian rugs.
Of course, if I spent years weaving a rug, I'd probably go nuts, too... - oMeSSiaHo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I've been started to fear I am going down that road. I've been having delusions and hearing things and also having trouble "seeing" the world. My family also has a history of mental illness. I feel for anyone who has their reality distorted to such a degree. It's interesting and sorta uplifting to see you guys say that drugs do help. I wish you family the best of luck.
- oOLiquidNightOo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19i read this article and found it interesting, insightful and informative. nice digg!
- pukgreenuniform, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11http://digg.com/general_sciences/See_Someone_Go_Crazy_In_Front_Of_Your_Eyes
http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/nbb421/student2003/epl8/Blank%20Page%202.htm
Im not calling dupe just posting a timeline of paintings by Louis Wain. - jamessavik, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Apparently schizophrenia must be like a really long acid trip.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10An even better overview of Wain's "descent into madness", with more works:
http://intomadness.ytmnd.com/ - defubar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11The cat drawing is pretty interesting, I remember seeing it in a psych class.
Also, I just watched the documentary "Out of the Shadow" for a psych class. A filmmaker follows her mother around and shows her on and off the medication and discusses her past, interviews family/friends. Pretty good documentary, especially since I got some extra credit for it.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0438298/ - davymac, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11My mother is currently going thru a relapse... emotional events seem to trigger a decent in her brain towards craving the alternate reality... sadly in her alternate reality she has children apart from her own that she says shes are going to come back to meet her one day and people are trying to kill her... back after my father died (i was 9).. she tried to kill herself by taking a bottle of aspirin with wine.. my brother caught her and literally had to smack the pills out of her mouth in order for her to spit them out while trying to defend himself from the wine bottle being swung at him.. shes tried killing people she thought were trying to kidnap us.. and so far.. this relapse has only yielded "crazy talk" and smoking (she doesnt smoke unless shes going off the deep end). I had an arguement with her last night to see where she was at basically.. its amazing the amount of ***** that this disease can cause a person to fabricate... I can totally see these pictures as how her perception skews over time.. awesome to see a visual representation of it...
digg+ - pedro101, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8First the cat turned radioactive, then into an owl, then into satan.
- RFInfection, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Holy Christ, that third cat is scary as hell!
I'd cry if I were seeing those among a landscape that looked just like it. - ReJeKt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8 As someone who has suffered from and self cured their own schizophrenia, I can tell you that basically anything you can imagine becomes real. If you have an imaginary friend, he's as real as all your other friends. If you think the cat is judging you, the cat becomes some sort of demi-god. If you have a dream about horns growing out of your back, it might as well have happened.
It would be a pretty awesome experience if it wasn't so scary. - oOLiquidNightOo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10apparently the whole schizophrenia joke went over everyone's head.
see previous post. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Eat a few hits of acid in a room full of people you've never met before.
Bam, instant schizophrenia. The bonus is, after 8 or so hours you'll be back to normal.
Schizophrenia: A nice place to visit, but you wouldn't want to live there. - feedbag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Crap, I need my computer fitted with one of those alcohol meters for driving. Reviewing my statement, I think it went the wrong way... I was trying to comment on the whole art-showing-the-soul business. Then by drunken clicking, I dugg down a critic... whoops. Sorry superalamar.
I guess I was trying to state that even if you don't appreciate art always (myself), sometimes you hit something that just fascinates you. Art never interested me, but when I found myself watching the decline of a mentally challenged master ( Van Gogh), I could really see what he was trying to portray. I found you could really see his personality, mentality and feelings projected through his art.
Call it agreement... art can be an outlet for the soul.
Feedbag
(crap, I hope this didn't come across too drunkenly also) - Cavorticus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Actually, I think cats are the cause of schizophrenia.
- shawgo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think I dugg this article the other two times it was on digg :)
- synystar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Self-cured? I'm not knocking you at this point, just curious. How did you self-cure an uncurable disease?
- Paperclip1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Anyone been able to find high res versions of his works?
Also, I probably shouldn't have seen those pics right before going to bed -_-;
I can feel the nightmares already. - elpayo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Wow - I never knew the name of this artist but I've had a piece of his work for years: Part of the cover of Oingo Boingo's first EP features Wain's Stage 2 cat.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolforever/oingoboingo_untitled_lp.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oingo_Boingo_(EP) - jacobee519, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8No, it was pretty recent. But hey, if it get their story to the front page, who cares is it's already been up twice already...
Right? - Javali, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@ Pres:
Toxoplasmosis is not a cause of Schizophrenia but it can be an organic cause of psychosis. Psychosis, although it could be part of Schizophrenia, does not equal Schizophrenia. Schizophrenia is a very specific disease an you can find the latest diagnostic criteria in the DSM-IV-TR and you can read a little about it here (including criteria):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia
Although there is no specific cause of the disease, it is currently thought that it is caused by a combination of environmental and genetic factors. Some of the suspected environmental factors are being born during winter time (maternal influenza exposure??), increasing age of father and other hotly debated suspects.
I don't mean to brag in any way so I will just say this so you know I know what I'm talking about: I am a physician certified by the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology and I teach medical students and Psychiatry residents daily. I hope this clears some confusion. - coldshuts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I looked on ebay for a life and I couldn't find one.
- Smoov, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Being a moron like you isn't so great either.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You may have a point there. We already know that felis domesticus carries a virus which transfers to humans and causes them to become more 'daring' http://www.livescience.com/othernews/060803_tgondii_culture.html. The majority of cat owners are women, and most women that have cats have more than one.
Maybe he instinctively thought the cats were to blame for his madness. - asdfasdf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I don't care about my rank nor ratio. I'm actually rather surprised that it made it to the front page. I submitted it because I found it interesting and have not seen it here. Yes I've seen this before years ago, and even years before that, but never on digg.
But that doesn't matter. This is what matters. It made to the front page, meaning people dugg it either because they wanted an encore or because they've never seen it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@soiducked:
According to Albert Hoffman, the inventor of LSD, his problem child was the result of an accident. He was working on analogues of a specific drug, and stumbled across LSD. The potency was mind blowing. Most drugs take at least a few milligrams; LSD takes only a few hundred *micrograms* or less, depending on the sensitivity of the subject. He was actually just looking for a better nasal decongestant and central nervous system stimulator (or 'pep' pill). Funny thing is, LSD is an excellent decongestant and CNS stimulator, but with some fun side effects for those mentally strong enough to handle it. - calbff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I've had this video up on YouTube for a couple months with a pile of his photos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8MIe7_u_tA - vprice509, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You got your peanut butter in my chocolate!
No, YOU got your Wikipedia in my Digg. - bjohnson58, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Interesting. It is sad how people with these serious mental illnesses (brain disorders) see and hear things differently. Lots of respect to those who live with this disease.
- kdehead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2but worth revisiting , for diggers who werent around the first time...
http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/nbb421/student2003/epl8/Blank%20Page%202.htm - superalamar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3nice links, better than the original infact.
- Ran2004, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3as recently as a month ago? It's possible I missed it but the last time I can recall digging this was last December...
- asdfasdf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't think Hoffman was the first to synthesize it. I agree he was the first one to try it on himself by accident and then intentionally ingesting it the next day. I believe it was synthesized when they were studying ergot. It just got no attention until Hoffman "discovered" what it can do to the mind.
- jamessavik, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Roowrrrr!
- bulletproofmonk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2self-cured? Would you elaborate?
- Endoquixote, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I have narcolepsy and out of that psychotic symptoms that are classified as schizophrenia. This causes me to spend a lot of time in hypnagogic and hypnapompic hallucinatory states as well as lucid dream states and experiencing distortional and translucent visual hallucinations during wakefullness and auditory and tactile halucinations also occur, olfactory hallucinations are less common. I have found that the key to understanding the content is allegory and wordplay. Cats are a play on words from the name Hecate, which is name of the greek goddess of witchcraft. I figured this out by demanding that people in my halucinations tell me what their names were, and from the names of people I knew that I saw in my hallucinations that were used as icons. One of the names was Katherine and derivatives such as karen and katie, and kay, and so on. The katherine is derived from the name Hecate. There is so much wordplay and allegory that it is rediculous. Hecate is a demon, all pagan gods are demons, she apparently likes to bother people with psychotic symptoms. There is too much to say about this, and the other stuff. Sanity is really a sort of numbness and blindness, sometimes peoples biochemestry causes the unseen to shine through. There are a lot of people who are healthy that put out material that is loaded by entities beyond them too, they leave subtle clues. We are vessels.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
--From Hamlet (I, v, 166-167) - jayyoung, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Only 3000 diggs the first time around...
http://digg.com/general_sciences/See_Someone_Go_Crazy_In_Front_Of_Your_Eyes - SteelChicken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Sure does. I wonder if some of the things going on in the brain are similar under those two conditions. (trippin versus schizo)
- 3leggedHorse, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Looks like a vicious Acid trip to me.
- jseveringhaus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you 'return to the main page' from where the cat pictures are, there is a link to a great crash-course on schizophrenia. I talks a bit about the history of the disorder and what types of progress they are making towards a cure. Good stuff, and great digg even if some of you have seen this before.
The link: http://www.schizophrenia.org/crackup.html - Sil369, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ kdehead :
Interesting site you posted. Quote from it: "Soon the cats became abstracted, seeming now to be made up of hundreds of small repetitive shapes, coming together in a clashing jangles of color that transform the cat into something resembling an Eastern diety."
Makes me wonder about the "Eastern diety" statement. The people who actually made images of Eastern dieties - if those images shared formal similarities like this one, could they be classified as being made from schizo's? I wonder if any kind of "extreme" abstract art (image/film/song) like this one can be from a schizo, yet we previously interpretted it as otherwise. It must happen a lot.
Basically, when something looks "schizo" it's automaticlly bad or troublesome. Are there any cases of artworks considered good/not demeaning to something or someone? I'm very curious... -
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