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- CoreyDigg, on 05/27/2009, -0/+20Interesting, especially after hearing the claims made about ionized water. Does this mean I shouldn't believe everything a recent salesman tried to tell me?
- hawkspur, on 05/27/2009, -0/+13The Placebo Effect is a helluva drug.
- inactive, on 05/27/2009, -0/+13No no, they hid all the pizzas, and the were able to find the NY ones because they smelled like the east river.
- stufflebean, on 05/27/2009, -0/+12Hey, canned air is great for cleaning dust out of electronics.
- anexanhume, on 05/27/2009, -0/+10Oh yeah, this is more watery than water. It's got a water kick to it.
- wannaBdug, on 05/27/2009, -0/+10I think good ole tap water is the best.
- SkippyDoorknob, on 05/27/2009, -0/+9Are you kidding? The snake oil industry has never been bigger. See homeopathic "medicine" and ridiculously expensive AV cables for a couple examples.
- inactive, on 05/27/2009, -0/+9If you will buy that i have some speaker cables for you.
- inactive, on 05/27/2009, -0/+9Let retarded people spend their money on these. The loss of money is their punishment for being so damn gullible.
- ElGubrush, on 05/27/2009, -0/+9My friend has a water ionizer. tastes pretty good actually, but that's the mineral addition.
He also has a monster power cable he bought for something like $100 though - borez, on 05/27/2009, -0/+8Dehydrated water in packets, now that's the one... I bought a load last week.
- pinkflyingpig, on 05/27/2009, -1/+9I will cancel my $4,000 ionizer order!
- russj117, on 05/27/2009, -0/+7my grandma has one, and is crazy about it. she really believes it works, and has actually gotten healthier. the mind is sometimes the most powerful healer. also, she's probably just drinking enough water, period.
- inactive, on 05/27/2009, -1/+8As a chemist all i can say is thank god (small g :wink:) for deionized water.
- MxM111, on 05/27/2009, -0/+6I honestly had to read the article just to lean the myths themselves...
- walker4bc, on 05/27/2009, -0/+6Wow, snake oil in the modern day!
- GodAImighty, on 05/27/2009, -0/+6The next big thing will be canned air
- donteatmyrice, on 05/27/2009, -2/+8Anyone watched that show on TV with 4 NY chefs tasting pizzas made with water from Chicago, New York City, Los Angeles, and some other US city (can't remember)? All four found the pizza with NY water. Water taste is important and I'm a bit scared of what they do to it... so who knows exactly what ionization does.... urgh!
- paperclipsNsoup, on 05/27/2009, -0/+6I hope it doesn't taste all watered down
- stufflebean, on 05/27/2009, -0/+6Just give me my Brita pitcher and I'm happy.
- akphidelt, on 05/27/2009, -1/+7Has any one tried the Perfect Water? What a crock of *****, I felt embarrassed when a friend of mines uncle wanted to present me with a business opportunity, and it was selling the magic Perfect Water. What's sad is I have a suspicion that he actually thought Perfect Water really made you more athletic after one sip. Anyone else have to suffer through something like that?
- russj117, on 05/27/2009, -0/+5here you go!
http://oxygenplus.com/ - scotchw, on 05/27/2009, -0/+5You can really taste the electrons
- borez, on 05/27/2009, -0/+5"All four found the pizza with NY water" was what, better or worse?
- mydiggID1, on 05/27/2009, -0/+5I'm not even sure what you're suggesting, it doesn't really make sense. H+ is not the only ion that exists...
- borez, on 05/27/2009, -0/+5No, you just like, add wa... oh bollocks.
- kfxrcer1, on 05/27/2009, -0/+5WTF I just bought all this Perfect Water from an Amway business owner for nothing? It was suppose to make me more flexible and jumper higher.
- scotchw, on 05/27/2009, -0/+5At least you can rest assured it's probly not doing anything BAD for him, even though there's almost no chance that it's doing anything good.
- HyperJack, on 05/27/2009, -0/+4Ahhhh...electrons.
- shadowspawn, on 05/27/2009, -0/+4This article really is *****. I mean it's a good attempt and all, but there is nothing about chemistry.
Ok, I have a complete water filtration system in my house, the house was built in 1941. There was originally a windmill, and a big cistern that gravity-fed the house 100 yds away downhill. Eventually a couple of wells took the windmill's place. It's well water. I know what it is. It sucks if you don't shock it from time to time. You get weird bacteria that produce sulfur as a byproduct from the iron.
I go through particle filters, salts, catalyst tanks, carbon (activated) filters, UV tubes, ozonators. The water that comes out of the tap is damn pure, distillation pure as you can get. Pre-filter? Oh lord, but better than what I would get at the street tap.
For an example, I showed my son what electrolysis did with my motorcycle battery, some pencil leads and some pre-filter water. I was bored. You may have done this in 4th grade science, I did.
One lead filled up a water bottle of H. The other filled nothing, instead turning the water rust with Fe2O3 and I think some phosphate from the looks of things. It turned orange. All I did to accelerate it was add some NaCl, table salt.
You want "pure" water? Use distilled or invest in one hell of a trap. All I know is that using the pre-filter, from a line from the well for my garden, my tomatoes, potatoes, onions, peppers, and weed grow like mad from the minerals in the water. I wouldn't dare try to water anything from city water; it'd kill everything. - Groovydoo, on 05/27/2009, -0/+4Wetter water? well there are "super critical liquids" that can permeate all sorts of materials
- paperclipsNsoup, on 05/27/2009, -0/+4Lemme guess, just add hydrogen and burn?
- SkippyDoorknob, on 05/27/2009, -0/+4Just add milk!
- Wreckage, on 05/27/2009, -0/+4I like all the google ads for water ionizers covering the page.
- chemunc, on 05/27/2009, -0/+4What it means is that it causes the interactions between water molecules to decrease (sorta). Since this happens, the water will then "wet" (the verb) better and cover surfaces easier. Water, actually is not that great at covering and wetting surfaces because of its hydrogen bonds.
- Gumphlumph, on 05/27/2009, -0/+4A few corrections for some of you guys. Water ionizers are not for quacks, and they do actually work incredibly well for some things.
Once you've actually done a full set of PH tests on restructured water compared to soft drinks and other bottled water you start to see some of the story emerge.
Personally, I'm dubious about the anti-oxidant as lemon juice or vinegar have long been held as great things of reducing body acid - i.e. you use something acidi to turn the body alkaline.
However, that being said, the most impressive thing for me is washing a tomato in restructured water and see the water turn yellow (and eventually brown if you wash enough of them). What comes off in the water is all the wax and pesticides that normal washing can't get off. So if nothing else, it does have health benefits from eliminating toxins that are near impossible to remove with any other non-chemical treatment. If that's not impressive enough, wait until you do a taste test - you discover flavors you never even knew where there. - BaphClass, on 05/27/2009, -0/+4Yes, just post your credit card info and I'll ship one right to you.
- russj117, on 05/27/2009, -0/+4ionization is addition OR removal of electrons, not addition of H+ ions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionization - scotchw, on 05/27/2009, -0/+4Snake oil and water don't mix
- donteatmyrice, on 05/27/2009, -0/+4You'll be a grand pa one day and you WILL buy a crapgadget.
- drunkirish, on 05/27/2009, -0/+4@kingmanic:
You're missing a comma. Is he an English *****? A British mumshagger? - wendelgee2, on 05/27/2009, -0/+4It's said that surfactants make "water wetter."
I never could understand what the hell that meant. - apologeticus, on 05/27/2009, -0/+4I dunno, I'm always telling my wife that our water just doesn't seem wet enough. This sounds like the solution I've been looking for. Anyone have one you can sell me?
- anonymousmedic, on 05/27/2009, -0/+3The sad thing is that these quacks will sell these as cures to despirate people, who will then forsake medical care and die as a result.
These chaletons deserve a good kick in the balls. - ericthesalmon, on 05/27/2009, -0/+3What the ***** does that even mean?
- inactive, on 05/27/2009, -0/+3Its got electrons, its got Electrolytes.
ITS GOT WHAT PLANTS CRAVE. - BaphClass, on 05/27/2009, -0/+3If you actually believed in the claims of ionizer-pushing shysters UNTIL you read this article, you're an idiot.
C'mon, "negative oxidation reduction potential?" Seriously? - Craig304958, on 05/27/2009, -0/+3Salesmen used to lie just to get a sale, but a guy at the Ford outlet told me they don't do that anymore. So don't worry about it.
- inactive, on 05/27/2009, -0/+3IMA CHARGIN' MUH ION CANNON!
- somnambulator, on 05/27/2009, -0/+3You might like our (Aussie) home grown Skeptic Zone:
http://www.skepticzone.tv/ -
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