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- apolloae, on 03/29/2009, -3/+31But god forbid we encourage the use of condoms in Africa.
- D1Foley, on 03/29/2009, -0/+16So isn't every life-saving medicine technically just a life-prolonging medicine?
- TheThirdWheel, on 03/29/2009, -6/+21We give them condoms and they don't use them; or they reuse the same condom over and over. They go to witch doctors for remedies for HIV, their governments inform them that eating fruits and vegetable can prevent HIV. It's the same people who are kicking out the mass production farmers because they are white, and losing precious food as a result.
The more money you throw at this issue the more it stays the same. You can't help people who won't help themselves. - BooLag, on 04/23/2009, -4/+17God IS forbidding it... ask his representative on earth...
- AJanitor, on 03/29/2009, -1/+12Oh come on. There are millions that suffer from HIV/AIDS that have never had sex in their lives. Maybe we should ignore mentally challenged kids because of the choices their parents made when they were pregnant as well?
- GoKings, on 03/29/2009, -6/+16I don't think anyone in the world besides Magic Johnson has access to "live-saving medicines" for AIDS. If you have AIDS, you will die from it... period. The article makes it sound like we have the cure or something.
Regardless, it is sad what is going on in Africa. - AJanitor, on 03/29/2009, -0/+8This isn't entirely accurate. Although it does have some hints of truth in it.
There is very much an issue of their cultures butting heads with our cultures. Some of this is harmful.
However there is also a great deal of other issues that are entangled in the crisis of HIV/AIDS. Issues such as poverty, racism, etc. are contributing to the issue.
As for "helping themselves" for some this may be true, but there are many children who are by-products of poor choices their parents made. Yet, they did nothing to deserve it. Please be careful when you group everyone together like you are, it's just not an educated statement.
Lastly, money can help, but it needs to be targeted in the correct way. There is no single solution for every country. It starts with entering the culture and finding how the best ways to begin prevention are for that group of people. There is plenty of progress to be made and the attitude of "well you can't do anything about it" is unhelpful and quite possibly destructive. - wakeupsticky, on 03/29/2009, -0/+7I kid you not, this is the captcha that loaded for me when I was about to comment the first time:
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STD VD. - luke16, on 03/29/2009, -2/+8British spelling of 'mom'........i might i add it came first >_>
- inactive, on 03/29/2009, -0/+6that's not really a valid distinction, is it? Someone who has antibiotics to get rid of a nasty infection isn't immortal, his life is also prolonged.
There is, perhaps, a valid distinction between treatment and cure, though. - AJanitor, on 03/29/2009, -1/+7There's a lot of layers to dealing with the HIV/AIDS issue that people don't want to address.
1. The psychological issues that the person has to deal with. Isolation, fear, condemnation, etc.
2. In dealing with others cultures, Westerners tend to think what works here will work there. This is typically a gross miscalculation and has led to making some areas WORSE.
3. Whenever we seek to help another culture we need to be very sure we are joining that culture and not imposing our own cultural fixes upon them. Condoms can be an effective measure, you have to consider what such discussions mean in the type of family-centered culture that many of these people live in.
4. Not all religious people are against condoms. In fact, I'm part of a group right now that is Christian and is very much FOR the distribution of Condoms. However, condoms alone are not going to fix the issues for many of these areas. - D1Foley, on 03/29/2009, -1/+7AIDS is no longer the death sentence it was in the 80's, with the cocktail of drugs they use today the spread of HIV can be almost completely stopped. No we don't have the cure but you can still have decades to live after you get diagnosed not years. And @ zoom people on anti-HIV medication have a less than 1% chance of spreading it, even without a condom.
- Djupblue, on 03/29/2009, -0/+5AIDS medicine aims to keep the viral count down, when successful so effective that the treated person is not counted as contagious. Dying of AIDS doesn't stop you from spreading it, you have plenty of time for that. The real reason is widespread promiscuous unprotected sex, especially among men who bring it home to their wives and girls getting raped.
- inactive, on 03/29/2009, -0/+3HIV / AIDS in Africa is a hetrosexual disease, in the main, not homosexual.
- specter19, on 03/29/2009, -0/+4Well if there isn't a cure in sight, maybe some effort and money should be put into stopping the spread of the disease. They might be able to develop a vaccine that stops it from being contagious or stops people from being able to catch it.
- AJanitor, on 03/29/2009, -0/+4I seriously hope you are kidding.
People with HIV/AIDS can still live a very functional and enjoyable life. Sure there are precautions they must take, but this does not devalue them as human beings at all.
We ALL have a death sentence. Every human is slowly decaying and there's nothing we can do to stop it. We are NOT throwing away money to help those suffering from HIV/AIDS anymore than we are anyone else in a hospital. - kierucom, on 03/29/2009, -3/+7Not only do modern antiretroviral therapies allow a person with AIDS to live a much longer, much more fulfilling life than previous medications- they also significantly decrease the chance of accidental infection to their HIV- partners.
Your suggestion is not only monstrous and bordering on cold-blooded murder, but it would actually hasten the spread of HIV/AIDS. - Fogell, on 03/29/2009, -0/+4You know sex is not the only way to get HIV right...?
- cjw10, on 03/29/2009, -5/+9You do realize that Bush tripled the amount of foreign aid to Africa in his time in office from $1.4B in 2001 to $4B annually. As much as he may be hated in America and the rest of the world, Africa at least thinks hes a good man. Since 2001, trade between Africa and the US has doubled.
Is the world ignorant about it? Yes, but not everyone is.
UNRELATED: You can directly provide aid to people in third world countries with loans. Check out www.kiva.org, I donate there regularly. - Amadeus2490, on 03/30/2009, -1/+499% of HIV is psychological: The depression, the nervous breakdowns; hitting rock bottom, watching someone die, watching yourself waste away, knowing that sex and relationships are never for you again, etc.
- manzplan, on 03/29/2009, -6/+9how very sad.. I do blame lack of medical supplies, lack of clean water.. and ignorance of the rest of the world
- cscott5288, on 03/29/2009, -0/+3such a sad, sad story
- inactive, on 03/30/2009, -0/+3I submitted the article, and am a 31 year old mother of one, entirely hetrosexual, HIV-free, monogamous, etc.
Most African HIV positive people are hetro. Many are children. But don't let a fact or two get int he way of a good rant! - nullcodes, on 03/29/2009, -1/+4What about rape, you idiot.
Sometimes, people have bad luck.
Also, sometimes people do make bad choices but they don't deserve the level of suffering that AIDS inflicts. What's the point of having to suffer so excessively for a bad choice? It accomplishes nothing. It's not being willing evil or taking advantage of others to have sex, so you can't tell me that it's deserved. Maybe that's you way of making yourself feel good, justifying another's suffering so you don't have to feel bad or even worse do something about it. - WoollyMittens, on 03/29/2009, -1/+4Africa is going to be an empty empty place in three decades. Most of the continent is crippled by corruption and opportunistic religious parasites.
- kansoki, on 03/30/2009, -0/+2I'm not seeing the connection...
- Duggan360, on 03/29/2009, -3/+5I blame many of the adults over there having children by choice, passing on their aids to them, but not the ones who get raped
- inactive, on 03/29/2009, -1/+3Do you really want to help a country that's government has become a pawn for the Chinese regime.. by banning the Dalia Lama from entering their sovereign territory in order to for the ANC to keep their funding.. trust me.. the Aids victims will not get help as long as this kind of corruption is rife.. thanks for killing Aids victims in South Africa, China!
- BooLag, on 04/23/2009, -1/+3Cruel as that sounds, how exactly would it hasten the spread?
- inactive, on 03/29/2009, -0/+2While there is no cure, people can live a very long time with HIV now.
- mrteleprompter, on 03/29/2009, -0/+2Instead of facilitating bad behaviors we need to educate people. Don't do drugs that involve using needles and don't sleep around.
- NUMBER4940, on 04/18/2009, -0/+1@GoKings, There are places to get free care or pay fees that are based on your income in many places, especially big cities in the US (for sure your city, Los Angeles). Also, medication is available free as well from the same clinics. This is all assuming you don't have Medicare or Medicaid or MediCal.
I have no idea where you get this idea that if you have HIV or AIDS and can't afford treatment or medication, that you die. You don't...at least in the US. - kierucom, on 03/29/2009, -1/+1@ BuLong: I argue that zoom1928s idea would 'hasten' the spread because people with AIDS but not on antiretroviral drugs would have a higher chance of spreading HIV via unsafe sex. As I and others have stated; ART drugs reduce the chance that infection can occur; even during unprotected sex.
Simply put; they are a good thing and zoom1928 is dumb. - goodinohio, on 03/29/2009, -2/+2Yeah! The proof is only Christians get aids.
- Dread08, on 03/29/2009, -5/+5ignorance wins
- chriscalifornia, on 03/31/2009, -3/+3Mom*
- datdamonfoo, on 03/30/2009, -2/+2Mummies don't die from AIDS, they're already undead.
- diggydougie, on 03/29/2009, -2/+1Abstinance - nope
Be faithful - nope
Condom - nope
Clean needles - nope
Aids Yup - zoom1928, on 03/29/2009, -3/+2Exactly. Money should be spent on curing it or preventing the spread of it rather than throwing it away on people that already have a death sentence. Besides, most people with AIDS spread it to others. Extending their lives only enables them to spread AIDS faster and wider.
- tehknotte, on 03/29/2009, -3/+2dont talk about what you dont understand or you'll look like a loser
- houndeyex, on 03/29/2009, -3/+2But what about the original?
http://digg.com/world_news/Watching_mum_die_from_H ... - inactive, on 03/29/2009, -5/+3The DEA should legalize marijuana and people would not be dying of AIDS in South Africa.
- ligyron, on 03/29/2009, -8/+6Mum?
- BooLag, on 04/23/2009, -9/+6Blame the ***** Pope...
- inactive, on 03/30/2009, -4/+0I'm sick of the radical homosexual lobby innundating the place with AIDS stories.
- inactive, on 03/29/2009, -7/+3Natural Selection
I mean if everyone lives the AIDS rate would have to become 100% eventually. -
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