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- kakwakas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9It's actually been found that humans' circadian rhythm is closer to a 25-hour cycle. Something interesting to think about there.
As for the article, I can definitely believe it. My brother, my dad, and I are some of the hardest people to wake up in the morning, even after 8+ hours of sleep. We'll even half-wake up in a dazed state where we can do nothing but come up with excuses for not waking up, insult people (in my brother's case), and remember nothing when we completely wake up later. - aacidusX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6same here, my folks are morning ppl and get up early, I am the opposite
- subscribtion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6That's strange. Both my parents are more morning-type people, whereas I have trouble with insomnia, and DSPS. However, my body doesn't produce melatonin (the brain chemical that makes us nocturnal), which may not be a genetic defect just an abnormality, so perhaps I'm not the best example to contradict this article.
- kyleh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5i can never get myself up on time, apparently i can walk across my room, turn off the alarm, both times, and never completely wake up.
i literally have no control - swirvi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Anyone can learn to be a morning person. I was one of the most bleary eyed out there till I tried this technique: http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/05/how-to-become-an-early-riser/
It's mostly common sense, but it will work for all but those without clinical sleep disorders. This seriously changed my life. (Yeah I'm being wishy washy, but it's true.) - NightRush, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5In my personal experiances..
Years and years have gone by where I couldnt fall alsleep till well past 1AM on a school night, And waking up was even worse, I felt tired throughout the better half of the day, But could not sleep at nights, And this went on for a while.. Till only recently, Ive noticed that I become tired, and ready for bed, at a MUCH more normal time (9:30, 10ish) And the mornings arnt as terrible.
Its all related to diet, Not your genetics, I used to drink a pop whenever the occasian where I was offered one, I didnt do it for the caffine or suger, it just tasted better, Now after going for 2 months without softdrinks I feel much better. Just take as much sugar out of your diet as possible, and soon, you wont have NEARLY as much troble sleeping, or waking up, Digg can also be bad for your sleeping habits :p - stonebear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This is probably not the case with with FASPS people (I hesitate to call them victims or patients), but, with normal people, it’s a little nature and a little nurture. Everyone left to their own devices will follow a genetically favored sleep cycle, but it is not carved in stone. If you are not a morning person, but you get a job which has you up in the morning, your body will adjust to that. For all practical purposes you become a morning person. But should you lose the job, and have no other compelling reason to get up early, your body will gradually ease back into the genetically favored rythm again. People who want to become morning people need only provide themselves with a compelling enough reason to shift their clock.
- twstdroot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Not to mention that the article only explains why people can wake up early. It doesn't say anything except the brief quote from Dr. Kramer about why I can't wake up in the morning.
"FASPS is a dominantly inherited circadian rhythm disorder in which patients' inborn biological clock (or circadian clock as it is known by scientists) runs ahead of normal. Circadian clocks are found in organisms ranging from bacteria to humans. They keep our bodies' daily activities, like sleeping and eating, on a roughly 24 hour schedule, or period. FASPS patients' periods are about 4 hours advanced, causing the patients to retire at 6 or 7pm and rise by 4am. In 1999, it was discovered that a mutated gene, called PERIOD2 (PER2) is mutated in many cases of FASPS." - cesig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My parents go to bed at 11pm every night. They have since I was little. And yet, I cannot go to bed at 11pm because I'm never tired. Regardless of the kind of day I've had, I'm WIDE AWAKE at 11pm, every night. It's biological, not learned behavior.
- swirvi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Of course I meant: ...all but those with clinical...
(The 'tired' was already kicking in last night when I screwed up that assertion.) - diggeddugg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1subscription: ask your Dr about Rozerem (seriously)
- mmortal03, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I barely drink soft drinks and have tried avoiding caffeine for the past two years, and I still feel crappy all day but then can't sleep at night. It could be Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome, but I haven't gotten the chance to have a sleep study done. People have also suggested that I am just not getting good sleep, so I have trained myself to just sleep longer, which would shift my schedule. I don't have Sleep Apnea, because I rarely snore and am very skinny.
Is their any sleep disorder that affects the quality of one's sleep for extremely skinny adults in their twenties, who don't use caffeine? It is either DSPS, or I am at a loss for what it could be. - mmortal03, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1FYI, Rozerem messes me up. It is as if I never really fall asleep, but obviously I have, because time moved faster through the night. However, it makes me feel as if I got no sleep the next day, which is tough to make it through. I am sure it works for people, but I just thought I would caution you that for other people, it actually makes their insomnia worse.
- carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1thank you for mentioning it. diet and whatever you condition yourself to are going to make much more impact on whatever sleep schedule you have. unless you have some serious sleep disorder (unlikely) then you can work into waking up whatever time you want if you want to bad enough.
i have a friend who wakes up around noon every day while his parents leave before the sun comes up. While there may be a chance that they had a recessive trait that messes his mental clock up, i'd say the more likely reason he's a late sleeper is that he goes to bed willingly at 3am and downs lots of caffine drink/soda during the night.
lay off the sugar water folks, and get an alarm clock. if you wake up an hour earlier (assuming you're still getting a min. of 6hrs sleep) you'll add years to your concious life. my buddy also wonders why i can get so much done when all the time. - kyleh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1will try the low sugar thing.. ya i went like 2 months w/o soda once, i can't remember if it helped
- TheDrunkMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Dr.Kramer. How ironic.
- Wiggles2, on 10/12/2007, -14/+9That's one of many, many variables in the equation. Attributing genetics to every conceivable aspect of the human experience misleads the feeble-minded. Marked as inaccurate for the title.
- GeneralAntilles, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1STFU, layman.
- Salmonized, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0You sure you're not dreaming?...that is contradictory...
- busyspade, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0I was totally getting it right up to the 4th paragraph.
- trunkster, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1I think it's more your parents set an example for you when your young then a physical gene. But I don't have a Phd so no will listen to me.


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