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- inactive, on 04/03/2009, -10/+68"Treating homosexuality as a mental illness was more common in the United States and Britain during the 1970s and 1980s, when so-called 'aversion' therapy was in vogue, he added. These treatments involved tactics such as pairing homosexual imagery with electric shocks to induce feelings of revulsion, King said."
You know what else works? Applying leeches. No, no, no. Wait. Spells and incantations. Right. Those will "cure" homosexuality... - Julie188, on 03/26/2009, -14/+67Wow -- am so sick of people acting as if homosexuality is something wrong ... who cares how people love each other? Therapists should be working on a cure for humankind's desire to kill each other ...
- Powerfan5000, on 03/26/2009, -1/+37Homosexuality apparently.
- skyshock1, on 03/26/2009, -6/+42I'm still waiting for a cure for stupidity. Something tells me these "therapists" are hindering this cure.
- sigmaman2, on 03/26/2009, -2/+36They should find a cure for bigotry first.
- shutaro, on 03/26/2009, -1/+35Ahh Spells and Incantations, is there anything you can't cure?
- inactive, on 03/26/2009, -12/+40Therapists should be curing intolerance instead.
- ldl67, on 03/26/2009, -16/+42Homosexuality isn't a disease.
- UselessTrivia, on 03/26/2009, -0/+26Hey don't pick on leeches! Those have legitimate medical purposes. Seriously, they do.
- ophello, on 03/26/2009, -1/+23Is it biologically sound to have glasses when your eyes dont work? Is it biologically sound to have braces when your teeth grow crooked or to get surgery when your appendix bursts?
Your argument is so full of holes that I laugh to think you are a student of anything at all. Maybe a student of Arrogance Combined with Weak Arguments?
There is homosexual behavior "engineered" into many, many other organisms. Gay is not a choice, it is an innate sexual preference. Look it up, bio student. - audiblesilence, on 03/26/2009, -1/+22Yet an entire industries can be made with a girl/girl kiss.
- andersleet, on 03/26/2009, -2/+23only if every single person decided to be gay. and if that were the case, we weren't meant to be alive anyway :P
Darwinism FTW! - Janv1er, on 03/26/2009, -6/+27What is there to cure?
Same-sex love doesn't have any negative side affects in itself. - ophello, on 03/26/2009, -4/+25Face it. Homosexuality is not a ***** LIFESTYLE YOU ARROGANT *****. IT IS GENETICALLY DETERMINED.
And who ***** cares if it is a genetic dead end? Why the ***** would that matter in a world bursting with overpopulation? - bkraj, on 03/26/2009, -0/+19They don't eat dead flesh...you're thinking of maggots. They help restore blood flow.
- osirisothedead, on 03/26/2009, -2/+21Being a ***** insane fundie with serious sexual hangups is a choice. Sexual orientation is not.
- ophello, on 03/26/2009, -1/+20...and regular sex doesn't?
- ShadySpace, on 03/26/2009, -2/+21I like how we're trying to "cure" something people found completely normal thousands of years ago. But, hey we have computers now. Two steps forward, one step back and all that.
- scarth, on 03/26/2009, -2/+20your dead-end argument only works if homosexuality didn't lead to the production of children and i think that's where the simplistic view of homosexuality fails people. I'm gay, I want to find a husband but I also want to have children and I am self aware enough to know where babies come from, so when it's time for me to pass on my genetic information I'll have no problem thank you very much. There are plenty of lesbians out there who have the same idea.
My love will go to another man but my genes, if I so choose so, will be passed on.
I could get into arguments about evolution, fitness and how having homosexuals in a population could benefit the whole population, leading to a fitness advantage but it would be all theory, and that's not the point I want to make. - sockpuppets, on 03/26/2009, -1/+17Are you coming onto me in a way I don't understand?
- UselessTrivia, on 03/26/2009, -0/+16They're used a lot in reconstructive surgery now. If you've got a lot of damaged blood vessels, say when re-attaching a finger or a limb, you can get a lot of blood coagulating and the blood vessels can't circulate it correctly. The leeches apply a bit of suction to get things moving again while the body repairs itself.
They are also used sometimes on certain types of hematomas, where blood is pooling in a particular area. The leech helps drain the leaky blood away while the vessels heal up.
It's an FDA approved practice - kingmanic, on 03/26/2009, -0/+16You don't understand how evolution works. detrimental genes persist if they have some function. Studies have suggested that while the gene(s) for homosexuality take men out of the gene pool it actually increase the fertility of women with the same gene(s). At least the gene they studied did. As well non reproductive members of a gene pool that help the fitness of the over all pool can also be a positive. Like the sterile female worker bee's. They help the queen make more so even though they themselves do not contribute directly their work ensures a future for their relatives.
Ironically you are typing this on a machine first designed by a gay man. Alan Turing. He improved the "fitness" of the human race by giving us computing despite not desiring to father children himself. - weatherlsp, on 03/26/2009, -0/+16Find a new therapist.
- Ninh, on 03/26/2009, -10/+25Psychotherapists always amaze me, they are to the medical community what astrologists are to astronomy.
- acmaurer, on 03/26/2009, -4/+19"There is very little evidence to show that attempting to treat a person's homosexual feelings is effective and in fact it can actually be harmful," ...Such an approach could provoke greater anxiety and confusion.
Duh! I'm all about following your passions, but finding a "cure" for homosexuality, IMO, shouldn't be on the list. - daliminator, on 03/26/2009, -0/+14It's actually not just suction--leeches also "inject" an anti-coagulant called hirudin into the bloodstream, which prevents the blood from clotting up or flowing slowly.
- Xofre, on 03/26/2009, -2/+16not all gay men are effeminate, that's just a sterotype that the media has instituted to differentiate characters on a television show, in real life i'd say there is a great number of homosexuals who act and talk like heterosexuals, in fact you probably know a lot of them and don't know it
- Kireblade, on 03/26/2009, -2/+16I tried to change my thoughts to become heterosexual for a year...the only result was depression and suicidal thoughts.
- brstilson, on 03/26/2009, -1/+15Nahh none of that. The best treatment is called "pretending to be straight."
- dse78759, on 03/26/2009, -8/+21Why are we letting the rapists near ANYONE?
- zoom1928, on 03/26/2009, -1/+13> therapist won't accept that your gay
Your gay what? You're not making sense. - aduzik, on 03/26/2009, -0/+12Evolution acts to promote the survival of species, not just individuals. In many animal species, homosexual individuals exist to care for orphaned offspring, so that they might one day live to reproduce. Homosexuality does serve an evolutionary purpose.
- Xofre, on 03/26/2009, -2/+14it happens in the animal kingdom, so why not?
- kingmanic, on 03/26/2009, -0/+12You do suck at it. Sex and the drive behind it are a biological system. Things can go wrong and you then have a system that malfunctions. If the malfunction is benign then let it be. Being gay isn't any less terminal than being straight. It's rare. And has no side effects aside from making making procreation difficult. There are gay animals. There are gay people. Let them live their lives. It harms no one.
- alexra, on 03/26/2009, -6/+18I don't get why people have a problem with homosexuals and lesbians, stop treating it like some kind of disease, its not, stop treating it like a mental disorder, which someone at my school said it was, it isn't, most mammal species on this planet have homosexual tendencies, its natural
- bicyclethief, on 03/26/2009, -1/+13AIDS can be a negative side effect of sex. Not same-sex sex, just sex.
Sorry, I had to. I'm all for idiocy because it's funny but what you're implying is just dangerous. - joe7845, on 03/26/2009, -3/+14Geekiness could also be described as a "perversion" of evolution, couldn't it?
It's possible homosexuality (and geekiness) have some adaptive role, even though that might seem paradoxical.
There are a lot of human characteristics which are clearly natural, and must be there for a reason, but they are seemingly non-adaptive. For example, why do humans get depressed? - ophello, on 03/26/2009, -3/+14I hate humanity.
- Hetman, on 03/26/2009, -4/+15Oh noes not teh gay disease. People should learn to accept people instead of wasting time on BS like this.
- kingmanic, on 03/26/2009, -1/+12Aids isn't a side effect of being gay. It's a side effect of being promiscuous or poor.
- tgjerusalem, on 03/26/2009, -0/+11It's worth Diggers noticing the number of people here who are defending this practice of attempting to "cure" homosexuality, not through religious arguments, but through warped appeals to "Darwinism" or claims that being gay is "anti-evolutionary," or with vaguely understood references to discredited pop-psychology masquerading as science.
The religious right is the most vocal and visible force of homophobia and heterosexual supremacism in the US, but there are a hell of a lot of atheist bigots out there too, just as there are a hell of a lot of religiously affiliated gay people and our friends and allies.
For every person out there who claims heterosexual superiority or the inherent disorder of queerness through vague paraphrasing of scriptures they have taken out of context and only vaguely understand, there are people making the same claims through vague reference to the Origin of Species (which they have likely never read and only vaguely understand), or twisted and discredited pseudo-science, or straight out eugenical claims of genetic superiority. - gcnaddict, on 03/26/2009, -0/+11I doubt anyone can try to find a "cure" for homosexuality anyway. A few of the doctors I've spoken to are keeping up with research that states that orientation might actually be influenced by androgen exposure in the womb, which makes sense... but it still doesn't matter at all. Androgen exposure in the womb is linked to a lot of things, such as virilization of facial features, the brain, etc. (which is the theory being proposed to explain the correlation between large chins and cheating wives; large chin means the brain is also likely more masculine, though the study itself was just a correlative study).
In the end, it shouldn't matter. I'm straight, but I've never run into a gay guy who imposed his feelings on me or made me feel uncomfortable. I figure it's best to let them come out and enjoy life; it'll keep the unnecessary stress hormones out of all of us if there's no senseless bickering over this meaningless crap. - grantmoore3d, on 03/26/2009, -0/+10Using the same toilet can lead to catching GAYS disease, be careful children!! /s
- AlaskaLoneWolf, on 03/26/2009, -1/+11You'd think they'd put their efforts into curing something more deadly, like AIDS and cancer. It's a lot more heartbreaking to lose someone to a slow and cruel death by disease, that some stupid bigotry. I blame the so-called doctors who have something to prove.
- Kohaxx, on 03/26/2009, -1/+11You seem to lack basic understanding of genetics.
Why does your child sometimes look a little like your brother? Is it because he borked your wife? Probably not.
Why would a child have gigantism or a genetic illness if none of the immediate family had this illness?
How can two brown haired parents have a red haired child?
Because you aren't passing down just your own genes, the same genetic material that made your brother and your great grand uncle is mixed in there too. In this context homosexuality as a genetic trait makes perfect sense, just like altruism as a genetic trait. Having two same sex partners can assist in the protection and survival of children somewhere in the family line. Even if it didn't aid someone else's children it doesn't actually hurt the chances of genes being passed down unless you come from a long line of only children. - Janv1er, on 03/26/2009, -3/+13Weed out the good genes and leave the rest to pop out more idiots.
(sorry, for once I get to stab heterosexuality a little :p) - daliminator, on 03/26/2009, -1/+11Best treatment: start construction on the biggest, most comfortable closet ever built.
- Hetman, on 03/26/2009, -0/+10Can someone give me a clear difinition of natural and unnatural. Because I am not exactly sure how soemthing can be unnatural.
- joe7845, on 03/26/2009, -0/+10By your logic, shyness and a number of other seemingly non-adaptive behaviors are medical conditions.
- boshhead, on 03/26/2009, -0/+10If crappy fathers caused people to be gay, there'd be a lot more gay people around.
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