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- stang966, on 10/12/2007, -7/+159I honestly think this sounds like *****.
- macbwizard, on 10/12/2007, -6/+122It totally is bs. No scientific basis whatsoever. Because these waves are non-ionizing they can't harm genetic material in tissues and they're too low energy to do any other harm (ie burning). This is a horrible self-diagnosis of a very psychosomatic condition.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+61It sounds a bit odd, but as the comment at the bottom of the article suggests, it should be child's play to come up with a double blind test that confirms or denies this diagnosis.
Supposedly in the old days a lot of people could feel telephone or power lines. Due to the overwhelming EMF bombardment we endure day after day we've become insensitive to it. - TriZz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+58I know the "tinfoil hat" joke is old, but damn. She sleeps in one.
- SultanTravi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+49"We have a plasma screen TV because the old style one gave out gamma rays, which brought on my reaction."
That's *****. I don't believe this article, since if she really had such a disorder, you'd think she would understand the EM spectrum and how appliances work. - SultanTravi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+43@seancanada
Real scientists know that microwaves sit below visible light on the EM spectrum. They know that microwaves don't have the power to cause these effects.
Microwaves leave NO LASTING EFFECT on anything they are used on.
edit: To clarify, a microwave could break down molecules or something like that, but microwaved food doesn't "contain" microwaves, and it certainly isn't dangerous. That article is stupid. - Ngai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+41FTA: Doctors say there is little scientific evidence to back up a link between EMF and poor health. They claim the symptoms, often attributed to flu or viruses, are psychosomatic.
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Psychosomatic disorder, now more commonly referred to as psychophysiologic illness, is an illness whose symptoms are caused by mental processes of the sufferer rather than immediate physiological causes. If a medical examination can find no physical or organic cause, if an illness appears to result from emotional conditions such as anger, anxiety, depression and guilt, then it might be classified psychosomatic. The interaction between psychological factors and the immune system is studied in psychoneuroimmunology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosomatic
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I'm leaning towards the doctor's explanation. - vizerei, on 10/12/2007, -7/+40Actually macbwizard has a point. Even tho he has the name of a mac fanboy you should heed what he says. Ionizing radiation is the kind that causes cancers and such. While the radiation we suffer in the form of EMF from day to day is relatively harmless, it too can cause cancer as the waves exert a dipole moment on the molecules of our DNA. Now, she doesn't have cancer, but the concept is the same, the waves exert a torque on the molecules of our body. Normally, the waves of most EMF components are too low power or have too large of a wavelength to exert any meaningful amount of torque (unless you sleep right in a power distribution center).
While it is entirely possible for her to experience this, there is no scientific basis. In fact, there is basis against this. If she were perhaps composed of different molecules than the rest of us, she could theoretically be susceptible to this condition. However, if she were made of different molecules than the rest of us, she wouldn't be human, now would she? - TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+32Double blind testing or it didn't happen.
- gravis86, on 10/12/2007, -5/+36Wow. Are they just making up illnesses now?
FACT: I'm allergic to fat women. And work. But amazingly enough, the cure is money. ...Except for the fat chicks, for which there is no cure. - TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30That's called something else. Schizophrenia, for example.
- SultanTravi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+26First, no TV gives out gamma rays. Second, the plasma TV also has an EM field, as sabertooth pointed out.
- phenix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26Yeah, no kidding... I immediately checked my calender to make sure it wasn't April 1st!
- sabertooth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26Plasma TVs also generate EMF noise.
from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_tv
"Plasma displays use the same phosphors as CRTs"
Me thinks it is excuse to upgrade. - jotux, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27@seancanada
Yeah, a microwave stole my car and kicked my puppy! I'm also pretty sure microwaves are to blame for 9/11....I saw a video on youtube about it. - skewh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25A homeless woman I knew claimed to have this same condition. It wasn't as severe as this case but she said she had such terrible pains in certain areas (including the Salvation Army) that she slept in her car and drove around the city finding places where she could sleep comfortably. My mom felt sorry for her and let her use our answering machine to take messages (I was around 15 or 16 at the time), but that eventually turned into her consuming our every resource until they were exhausted. Needless to say she is back to a nomadic existence.
- thatsiebguy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24It's all in her head.
- chipitople, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23"We have a plasma screen TV because the old style one gave out gamma rays, which brought on my reaction."
-that's a sacrifice i'd be willing to take, lol - TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20His mom's not dumb. She was smart enough to end it.
- snipes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Just the fact that she said "...old style one gave out Gamma rays...." leads me to believe that she's not as educated about these things as she should be...
I couldn't help but laugh at 'Gamma rays'...
Too much tv. - jotux, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21@seancanada
That website has no credibility. To try and prove anything posted on it would be ridiculous.
"prove it wrong, i'm very interested if you do"
Let me prove it wrong. Scroll down to the bottom of the site -> no reference = speculation. - Toon, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24"We have a plasma screen TV because the old style one gave out gamma rays, which brought on my reaction."
She had Hulk eyes! Why take that TV away, lady? Embrace that *****. Your eyes could throw cars into buildings.
I wish I had Hulk eyes. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21I think this article went a little too far with the close up picture of her swelled vagina. She should quit using her cell phone as a sex toy.
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/03_02/birdCAVENDISH2103_228x300.jpg - Afreyt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Gamma rays... from a plasma tv. Gamma.
"Honey, I want some more attention. Go buy me something silver while I rub draino on my eyelids." - thomble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17"'I felt very tired all the time and my eye-lids would swell up to three times their size.'"
"Debbie and her husband Tony often sleep in a silver-plated mosquito net"
"I can't even get in my friend's BMW. If I do I immediately start getting a headache and my head starts tingling."
"'Then I started developing a skin reaction."
"they had no option but to move to a new home,"
"The walls are all covered in special carbon paint, the windows have a protective film on them"
This woman's problem is rooted in the belief that she HAS a problem. A double-blind test would surely be great for us observers, but she'd quickly and definitively blame her problems on something else. At best, she has a personality disorder. At worst, she's just plain nuts. - Gir53457, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17My brother could hear FM107.7/8 signals with his braces.
- bhattsan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18In all technicality, an allergy is actually your immune system overreacting to something foreign, but harmless (I.E food or pollen, etc). This involves a specific type of protein (antibodies) in your blood which bind to the foreign material and stimulate the release of histamine, which causes swelling, sinuses, and other symptoms we see in people with allergies. Since EMF waves are not something that our body can detect in the blood, the body cannot label it as foreign or target it as foreign. Therefore, I can't see how you could be allergic to Microwaves or cell phones as these waves aren't something your body could detect and destroy.
- arcooke, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21Her husband looks like Michael J. Fox.
- chongli, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Microwaves do not heat from the inside out. Microwaves heat from the outside in since the microwave source tends to be outside of the food. The reason it seems like they heat from the inside out is because this particular wavelength tends to agitate water molecules more than the other molecules in the food. The water heats up and the heat dissipates through the food.
If you are cooking a large frozen meal in the microwave, you'll notice that the middle of the object will stay frozen for a long time as the outside melts first. To cook it properly, you should stir often and use a low setting on the microwave to allow proper time for the heat to dissipate evenly through the food. - Afreyt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Reality is that which doesn't go away when you stop believing in it.
Silver mosquito netting? Wouldn't copper work just as well, and be cheaper? - Afreyt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Last I checked, microwaves couldn't even break the bond in the water molecule that absorbs them the best. 1.2kW has to do with how many, not the energy of the individual photon, which is a more or less a constant... thats why its called non-ionizing. It can't kick an electron hard enough to dislodge it from its orbital.
Now sure, it can cause cataracts and things like that, but thats from tissue heating, not strange chemistry.
http://howthingswork.virginia.edu/microwave_ovens.html - insomniac8400, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Kinda odd how waves that can pass right through her only cause external burns. And they only affect the skin on her face.
I would bet that in a few months they will be giving lectures on the dangers of EMF and trying to sell anti EMF paint, silver mosquito nets, etc. This has scam written all over it. - Junkyarddawg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Allergy to electromagnetic fields is a psychosomatic disease. The people with it do suffer, that part is not *****, but it's their mind making them suffer. It has been tested many times, and they have to *know* about there being electromagnetic field to detect them, and will get symptoms in the absence of fields if they *think* there are fields.
It's a bizarre psychological condition, and like I said those affected do suffer - but it is a psychological, not a physiological, condition. - Afreyt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16He had an antenna in his mouth. Does she?
Maybe she can pick up neutrinos from exploding stars too. And sunspots.
F'ing pseudoscience. Do the double blind experiment suggested above. That would end this real quick. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16***** moron. I hope nobody in your family ever gets Parkinson's Disease.
- SultanTravi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Yes, but her consultant husband doesn't make as much off copper netting.
It almost makes me want to fly out there, break into their house, put a wifi under the bed, and see if there's any difference in a week. Almost. - adamruth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Her husband is "a writer and environmental consultant," maybe he poisoned her to drum up business. Or maybe it's a really weird Munchausen syndrome, look at that cheeky grin in the photo.
- SultanTravi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@santaliqeur
I hope no one in any family ever gets Parkinson's Disease... - Afreyt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11But gamma rays! She's totally allergic to ionizing and non-ionizing radiation, light, warmth and the color green.
I'm sorry, I shouldn't joke about a potentially debilitating condition, but the ***** level in this story is sky high. She could be allergic to something in plastic more easily than EMF running from longwave radio to gamma rays.
Chances are the treatment had more to do with convincing her the radiation was gone. - gabacho2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Seeing as how microwaves never make it out of the microwave...Yea, I call *****
- jotux, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12This would be so easy to test, just put her in a Faraday cage(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage) and see if she reacts to RF signals from outside of the cage....
- Duffle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Sounds like a load of bull because as long as she's within coverage of a cell phone tower she should be all hurting and stuff.
- protogenxl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11The husband is my HERO.
By replacing his wife's Reading Lamp Bulb with a Sun Lamp Bulb and feeding her some misinformation he was able to get his wife to insist they buy a Plasma TV.
Bravo - TheBSG, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I'm allergic to outdated computer hardware, so... honey?
- Mipmap, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Allergic to electronmagnetic waves, eh? Don't go out in the sun, or allow it to enter your home. A sunny day bombards you with a hell of a lot more electromagnetic energy than any cell phone, wifi, etc.
- raithetarkon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I've heard a similar story about some woman who claimed she was allergic to wi-fi... and it sounded like ***** too!
Maybe it was the same woman. - jotux, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Sometimes my computer becomes allergic to wifi....I have to restart it and put the wep in again :-/
- veruus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11That's got to be some sort of psychocomatic response. I just don't buy that someone would exhibit such responses to EMF within frquencies typical to consumer electronics. If it's true, she shouldn't breed.
- Gizza, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Except sundownvf111 himself. He can have it.
- Afreyt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Unless she happens to have a 3m long antenna hidden in her somewhere, and an ability to absorb and detect gamma rays better than our best radiation detectors.
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