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- canewediggit, on 10/22/2007, -38/+424i call *****. seems to me that the writer thinks it is such a bad thing that now we men aren't impressed just because the woman is "showing up" (her words). well, you wanted equality in the sexes, you got it. no, just because you have a hole between your legs doesn't mean i'm going to sleep with you if you want. and no, i'm not going to beg you for sex (unless you ask nicely :-O). you now get a little taste of what men have been dealing with since the beginning of time, just "showing up" doesn't cut it for us, never has, never will. you can blame porn, or strip clubs, or whatever you want, i call it fair play and us getting wise to the ***** we have been fed for generations.
- pintomp3, on 10/10/2007, -10/+222while porn may distort a man's image of the ideal female figure which most women can't measure up to, a couple beers should equalize things.
- lokee73, on 10/22/2007, -10/+207Porn, like prostitution, devalues women's sexuality. Sex no longer becomes a scarce commodity that men have to fight to get and then fight to keep. Therefore, women have to add something else up to the mix to attract a partner...like intelligence and personality. Women have held sex over men's heads for...well...ever. Take away sex, and you take away, what has traditionally been, their biggest asset.
- laterallateral, on 10/10/2007, -1/+107"There were more young men who wanted to be with naked women than there were naked women on the market. If there was nothing actively alarming about you, you could get a pretty enthusiastic response by just showing up."
Looks like women will have their chance to see what it's like having to work their ass off to get laid, afterall.
Feminism is about EQUAL opportunity across genders, right? Right? - Mylonite, on 10/10/2007, -3/+106I agree that porn-ish stuff reduces animalistic needs - just look at Japan. Scary fetish trends all over and really low sex crime rates.
I'd probably never walk quite upright if my husband didn't have any porn at all. - dan2, on 10/14/2007, -9/+85Oh man, I'm not touching this one with my 6 inch pole.
- iluvgossip, on 10/22/2007, -12/+84This is the same woman who argued that all sex is rape. After that why should I listen to anything this woman has to say?
- brstilson, on 10/14/2007, -11/+78Woman: *yell* *nag* *scream* *cry* *manipulate* *cry* *scream* *throw plates* *nag* *yell* WHY DONT YOU WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH ME?!?!?!?! IT MUST BE ALL THAT PORN YOU WATCH!!!!!!
Women, I'm going to clue you in on one thing: men hate it when you treat them like *****. When you yell, scream, nag, and cry all the time you become what's called U-N-A-T-T-R-A-C-T-I-V-E. We understand that you have some tough times 3-5 days a month, but acting like a bitch ALL THE TIME will only make your husband cheat on you. Yes, ladies, sometimes it IS your fault. We are not your psychiatrists, emotional punching bags, or plate targets. We are human beings and like to be treated as such. We hate it when you watch Lifetime and become convinced that women are ALWAYS right and men are ALWAYS sex-crazed pigs that objectify you. This is the single worst attitude you can possibly have.
So when you act like a child, tell me everything is my fault, that i'm a pig, lazy, and do no good, don't be surprised when you find me in bed with a woman that treats me like a person. Don't be surprised when I'd rather watch a naked woman who DOESN'T treat me like *****, DOESN'T judge me, and DOESN'T yell at me than you. Marriage and relationships are a two-way street. - MarkOfTheDead, on 10/14/2007, -3/+68boo ***** hoo. now you need to actually be an interesting person because your man can satisfy himself.
remember that headache you had last week? yeah me neither, i was too busy jerking off to notice it went away. - TroubleInMind, on 10/10/2007, -5/+69Ceiling cat is watching you fap.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -10/+73I don't mind if women do no show off, but I think it is wrong to forbid them. If a man is offended by sexuality or he feels it will hurt his family he should just look the other way. Why take the freedom of all women to dress the way they want?
- patientXero, on 10/10/2007, -10/+72Yeah, I'm sure that Islam's concern with female sexuality stems from a wish to make sure they have better sex.
- trevah, on 10/10/2007, -2/+63This is less of a good article and more a broad stereotyping of today's male generation. I don't expect my girls "to be buff, be tan with no tan lines, have the surgically hoisted breasts and the Brazilian bikini wax—just like porn stars." If I wanted that, I wouldn't bother leaving the house a just stay inside jerking it all day.
I don't know about you guys, but flesh and blood still excites me a bit more than pixels. - lukas88, on 10/10/2007, -3/+62So by looking at porn, either we become sex starved maniacs or libido-dead slackers. Sounds like a lose-lose situation.
I'm skeptical, I find it hard to believe that most guys wouldn't prefer something three dimensional. - lavoie0ca, on 10/22/2007, -6/+62Right on.
- iluvgossip, on 10/10/2007, -2/+55"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman." Catherine MacKinnon
"In a patriarchal society all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent." Catherine MacKinnon in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies, p. 129..
I'm looking for some quotes from Wolf. Maybe I've misremembered, but I doubt it. At best it is more qualified than MacKinnon. Here is a page of hateful quotes, so don't even try to tell me that NO ONE has said this stuff:
http://www.nodnc.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=6 - jncro, on 10/10/2007, -1/+53Exactly, and if the right woman were to come along it doesn't matter how 'hot'(I use this term loosely since I personally feel that porn women aren't super hot) the porn women are, men will find the right woman way more attractive. I personally think my wife is far superior to any porn star out there, and I still watch porn(usually only a few days of the month). Even if I watched a lot of porn daily I would still want my wife any time I could have her.
- superpositioned, on 10/14/2007, -4/+48Women want everything. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You wanted independence, and now you got it!! Have fun trying to get laid.
- JohnboiWaltune, on 10/10/2007, -4/+46Saying porn makes you uninterested in sex is like saying cooking shows make you uninterested in eating. It just makes you look like a moron or a brainwashed ideologue.
She complains that women these days have to work out and shave their pubic hair to be competitive. Aww, poor baby. - wattznext, on 10/10/2007, -1/+39Man, do you know how to be romantic. I could just see that on the inside of a valentines day card "honey, be mine. i love you for being so 3d, so fleshy, and especially for being warm."
- rodted2, on 10/22/2007, -4/+42Amen
- uesp5, on 10/10/2007, -5/+43"In my gym, the 40-year-old women have adult pubic hair; the twentysomethings have all been trimmed and styled"
Hallelujah! Is it me or is personal grooming a nice development over the last 30 years? If grooming is a consequence of pornography, let's hope random sexual encounters are next. - totorototoro, on 10/10/2007, -2/+33porn is the problem?
what about fashion magazines? TV? Commercials? Ads? Plenty of "mainstream" examples. Porn is just the easiest target.
edit: oh..Naomi Wolf. nevermind :p - DangerCollie, on 10/22/2007, -1/+31I've always said we could replace women if Nintendo ever comes out with a video game that *****.
- tobdubois, on 10/10/2007, -0/+29"rampant spread of sexually oriented crimes" - I tried to find reports of sexually oriented crimes per capita to compare 10, 20, 30 years ago, etc. but couldn't.
Source for this claim? - floppyparty, on 10/10/2007, -0/+28I don't believe it is so much the religion but the individual cultures. There is a difference between women revealing skin, and women being second class citizens. There is a high correlation between forbidding female sexuality, and just forbidding females to do a lot of things in general.
- deftech, on 10/10/2007, -4/+32ON the flipside porn can be a wonderful addition to a couples relationship. The glass is always half full fellers.
- WarpFox, on 10/10/2007, -6/+33Thanks to growing up with the internet, I was bored with vanilla sex before i lost my virginity.
Nowadays it's "sticks and stones may break my bones but whips and chains excite me". - arsemaster, on 10/10/2007, -6/+33Please don't refer to a culture that sees all women at best as potential rape victims and worst as property as an example of well reasoned thinking. It sickens me.
- lokee73, on 10/10/2007, -0/+25Ok, that may have been a badly formed thought on my part. But sex and roles are two different things.
If you want to talk about women having the submissive roll, you have to talk about the family structure as it existed pre and post WWII...and industrialization’s effect on that structure. In addition to the broadening of women's roll choices since...say 1950 and the relative lack of change in men's rolls over the same period.
Sex on the other hand has always been a power card for women. A woman can get a man to, literally, kill for sex. - cleanideas, on 10/10/2007, -2/+26I could leave a long comment about this, but I'd rather spend that time looking at porn...
- Winters, on 10/10/2007, -3/+26This lady thinks she's insightful, but really she's kind of stupid and ignorant.
- EmOneGarand, on 10/22/2007, -3/+26There was an article here on digg previously that stated that 80% of women treat single men like ***** because "they want to get in their pants", it was a lesbian disguised as a man that found this to be true (thus making her sympathize with men) If most women didn't act like bitches to every man that tries to talk to them maybe things would be different but why not watch porn when the girl getting it from behind isn't gonna be rude and condescending.
- Kelgann, on 10/10/2007, -5/+27I've known this for a very long time. I enjoy porn so that I don't have to go around wasting my time on some dumb bitch, begging her to do something I could do myself in 10 minutes with my hands.
- HarryBauzonia, on 10/10/2007, -6/+28As long as women's porn is in the checkout lines next to the bubblegum (Ex. Cosmo) I'll close my ears to any woman complaining about men's porn. Remove your Cosmo or place Playboy next to it, and then we can talk.
- wattznext, on 10/10/2007, -3/+25I don't see what the makes a womens roll choice different from a man's. I like kaiser, while my girlfriend prefers 7 grain. But we are both free to choose which we want when we go to the deli...
- ArmyOfFun, on 10/10/2007, -1/+22"Even when they have a mildly attractive, willing girlfriend right in the next room."
The only reason that would ever happen is if the guy didn't know his girl was making herself available.
"Porn has just become more exciting to men than the real thing and that depresses so many women and deflates their libido and self-worth."
Porn is never more exciting than the real thing. I watch porn all the time. I'd have no reason to watch porn if my wife's libido matched mine. A simple kiss from her on my neck blows all the porn in the world out of the water. Anything she does on top of that just leaves porn farther and farther behind.
You and the author have it completely backwards. Women do not compete with porn. Porn is my substitute for when I want it but my wife doesn't. It is a POOR substitute though. Like replacing a nice piece of steak with a dog biscuit. - profOblivion, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21What you've described is indeed an *addiction*. When a man would rather look at porn than be with a real woman, that's an addiction. However, relationships and lives can be ruined by ANY addiction. You, however, are subtly implying that porn is automatically an addiction (which it's not), and therefore always a problem (which it's not). Everything in moderation.
- claw84, on 10/10/2007, -3/+24This article reads like an unsupported, highfalutin' C- community college sociology paper
- patientXero, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21Perfect example of how the feminist movement has alienated the majority of American women.
- member57, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21The islam view of female sexuality isn't about concern over women, it's about control. The Song of Songs, however is not about control, it revels in sexuality between a man and wife, and is to benefit of both. islam on the other hand is all about jealousy and control. There is a difference. I prefer the Song of Songs version, thank you....
- vroom101, on 10/10/2007, -16/+35This good article on one page:
http://www.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=The+Porn+Myth+-+Naomi+Wolf+-+Cover+Story&expire=&urlID=19209451&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnymag.com%2Fnymetro%2Fnews%2Ftrends%2Fn_9437%2F&partnerID=73272 - br0ck, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17Except that, as of last summer, rape had fallen 85% in the US since the 1980's: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/18/AR2006061800610.html
If you want data for your state try the links at the bottom of: http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm - iggybdawg, on 10/10/2007, -4/+21yeah, it doesn't whet our appetite, it satiates it.
- velocity303, on 10/10/2007, -4/+21Sometimes when I was in highschool I felt as if porn was a necessity. My hormones would get so worked up I wouldnt even be able to focus until I handled my business. I feel real sorry for those who had to live through their teens without the wonders of internet porn. Screw this article, porn rocks!
- bainfu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16Good point, no one wants to take responsibility for anything these days, just assign blame. Welcome to the 00's.
- lavoie0ca, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16Except sex crimes have been falling off dramatically since the year 1500.
- DangerCollie, on 10/22/2007, -2/+18Sometimes one digg just isn't enough. And judging by the other guys jumping in with agreement, there's a real truth here.
- Egnaro, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16Exactly! Beating off to porn no matter how artificially hot the women are made to appear, is nothing by comparison to the real thing.
- Otto, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15There is no source, because the reality is the opposite. Sex crimes have been on the decline for the last 50-60 years or so.
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