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- Thuktun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+43[regarding Slurm's secret incredient]
Fry: My God! What if the secret ingredient…is people!?
Leela: No, there's already a soda like that. Soylent Cola.
Fry: Oh. How is it?
Leela: It varies from person to person. - notanumber, on 10/12/2007, -5/+40A source would go a long way to making this believable instead of just the (possibly) crazed and paranoid ramblings of yet another blogger.
- mfchiz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34Det. Thorn: It's people. Soylent Green is made out of people. They're making our food out of people. Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle for food. You've gotta tell them. You've gotta tell them!
Hatcher: I promise, Tiger. I promise. I'll tell the exchange. - pagit, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30And my dog drinks from the toilet, gets into the crap from the kitty litter box, eats other dog crap, eats his own crap, gets into mine and my neighbours garbage cans and eats his own vomit then gives you a nice lick in the face when he is glad to see you.
He is a healthy dog and has probably out lived any wild dog out there. - raymondmarble, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27I agree with the comment on the linked article:
"Comments:
>>You can't discount what I am saying as the ramblings of a kook
Okay, fine. But please post some proof of what you are saying.
Posted by Rich (24.52.189.137) on December 27, 2006 at 01:31 PM EST #"
There were no sources, and some fairly strong claims (deceased pets being used in pet food, etc).
I'm in no position to judge the veracity of the article (especially without sources or proof), but the "I know the secret truth and everyone else is wrong or lying to you" tone of the article sets off my suspicion-o-meter. - greymaxcat, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25My dog eats roadkill, garbage and other dogs *****. Somehow I'm not too fussed about this...
- Subliminalbits, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21In general stuff like this seems to be the going trend. I've noticed a lot more unverified FUD on Digg than there used to be. Its a shame...
- jollyroger814, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Is there an address to send in the dead pets to? If there is, i'm in, especially if I can get a bit of cash for sending in all of my roommates ***** hamsters.
- Pimpalicious316, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9the classics never die. viva la soylent green!
- oceanmoon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Although not exactly "perfect source" there are enough valid references in this article to at least lend weight to this claim and encourage consideration:
http://siriusdog.com/articles/dog-food-industry-labs-cruelty-rendering.htm
and the Baltimore articles about a rendering plant (in pdf): http://www.citypaper.com/about/vansmith.asp - mattsidesinger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Don't buy dog food where the first ingredient is corn (most dogs are allergic to this), some other grain (dogs can't process grains - it is just filler), or a meat by-product. Even Science Diet (what your vet sells) it a poor quality good - the first ingredient is corn.
Stick to higher quality foods like Innova, Canidae, etc.
And for the best diet: http://www.barfworld.com/
One more thing, don't buy Nutro, because they give discounts to the Hunte Corporation - they are the puppy mill people. - chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9My dog eats his own crap I don't think he cares what's in the can.
- duzytata, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@Goffy
My nana fed her two dogs food from bags for NINETEEN years. They were the healthiest dogs I've ever seen up until the day they died of old age. - MrFoof82, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7My dog eats more or less what I eat. My vet gave me a list of foods (including a fair number of vegetables and fruits) to not feed him, but most things are fair game. He's the proper weight, never sick, and still extremely active after 3 years.
It's kind of funny when your dog begs for baby carrots. I spend maybe 20 minutes prepping his food for the entire week. - signal15, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Buy some Innova (http://www.naturapet.com/) and be done with it. I fed it to my cats and they pooped about half as much as they did when they ate Eukanuba. They also got much shinier and softer fur.
- meder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'm not into spoiling my pets either but don't you feel like somebody is ripping you off? It might come in a colorful bag or a shiny can, but essentially you're paying good money for someone else's trash. Companies like Purina is laughing all the way to the bank.
- RuffRidr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Just wait until you find out what Jello is made out of...
- meder, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7If you want a lot of information on this topic, I recommend reading the book "Food Pets Die for: Shocking Facts About Pet Food" (http://www.amazon.com/Food-Pets-Die-Shocking-Facts/dp/0939165317).
- OpCzar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"cause if anybody did tell you the truth about what is going into your beloved dog or cat's stomach when you pour stuff out of those bags."
This is not a sentence. - geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4My dog has been eating innova for 2 years, she loves it. She especially loves their high-protein Evo brand but that's not good for her over the long term. When I feed her some mainstream brand like eukanabu, etc she just looks at me like I'm an *****.
- ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4damn, wish I knew that about Nutro. I'll stop buying their products.
As I mentioned above, Evolve is a great brand, solid ingredients, no corn, no fillers. - GravyTrain6, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6apparently he doesn't have very good testing practices, otherwise, that article would have never compiled.
- philovivero, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Interesting. I didn't read the article (the comments dissuaded me). The submitter sort of just stopped talking midway through a thought. Essentially: "If I told you the truth." If you told me... then... what?!
Maybe the submitter left it off, because the natural followup is embarassing. Let's play a game of complete the thought!!!
"If anybody did tell you the truth about what is going into your beloved dog or cat's stomach when you pour stuff out of those bags..."
"...then I'd ask for a shred of evidence. I'm not an intelligent-design fanatic."
"...then I'd freak out, run around screaming 'Panic in the streets!'"
"...then I'd stop pouring stuff out of those bags and start using a scoop."
"...then I'd give my pet the option of taking its nutrients via IV." - FushBuck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"What goes into the rendering vat? The pet food (and rendering industry for that matter) would have consumers think the rendering plants are full of plump chickens, fresh fish and healthy cows. Such images are routinely depicted on pet food packaging. Unfortunately, this couldn’t be less accurate of the true contents of a rendering vat. In fact, rendering persists because it provides an essential service: disposing of millions of pounds of dead animals.[164] Proponents of rendering claim that there is no other way to dispose of these dead animals. Dr. William Heuston, formerly associate dean of the Virginia-Maryland College of Veterinary Medicine, argues that disposing of animals via landfills would create a “colossal public health problem,” because dead animals are the ideal medium for bacteria.[165] Cost and potential air pollution problems preclude burning the animal carcasses.[166]"
"In addition to the “waste material,” six to seven million dogs and cats killed every year in animal shelters make their way into rendering vats.[170] The city of Los Angeles alone sends 200 tons of dogs and cats to a local rendering firm every month.[171] Road kill that is too large to be buried roadside, expired grocery store meats, and dead zoo animals are also thrown into the mix.[172] Recall from the discussion of the AAFCO ingredient definitions that meat and bone meal must exclude hair and stomach contents “except as may occur in good manufacturing processes.”[173] Considering that a 40 lb bag of dog food costs only $15-$17, that price cannot possibly cover the amount of time necessary to remove all the hair and stomach contents from the thousands of diseased and euthanized animals thrown into the rendering vats, not to mention the Styrofoam and saran wrap packaging from expired grocery store meats.[174] In fact, it seems downright impossible. The rendering industry readily admits that meat wrappers are mixed in with its raw materials, their inclusion betrayed by the presence of polyethylene (used to make saran wrap) in rendered products.[175]"
http://leda.law.harvard.edu/leda/data/784/Patrick06.html
A much better article, imo.
I found out while doing some searching that there is human grade food, animal grade food, and labratory testing animal grade food. Didn't know about the lab grade.
"Many of these ingredients are not approved food additives and may not meet the criteria needed to be recognized as GRAS (21 CFR 570.30)." GRAS=Generally Recognized As Safe
http://www.fda.gov/cvm/animalfeed_info.htm#ingredients
The more you know... - dvddesign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4My dog eats what I eat.
Cans of Plankton from the Mexican Council of Food.
Never hurt him or me.
'Cept for the red tide. Yep that sucked. - ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5and my high school physics teacher claimed he invented a lot of ***** other people were known to have invented. high school teachers enjoy talking sideways, out of their asses, about stuff that never happened. happens when you spend all day dealing with mostly high school student morons.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7He didn't end his parenthesis in the second paragraph.
- Thuktun, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Right. When an animal considers cat turds a delicacy, it sets your expectations of the feed you buy them a little lower.
- haggie, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6A huge corporation will dump whatever crap it can get away with into any food product it makes whether it be for man or beast and market it as the healthiest thing since sliced whole grain bread. If this is news to you, crawl out from under that damned rock for a brief reality check. Read the labels, educate yourself, and, if your pet's life (or your own) is so damn important, pay for the quality stuff.
- NinjaBoy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Maybe it taste better than whats in his can...
- ZackScott, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Innova sounds suspicious. Here are two products they sell:
Innova EVO 95% Beef Canned (sounds good right?)
Innova EVO Dog Canned (uh oh...) - SteveDeGroof, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3(obligatory dog-eat-dog pun)
- AcidPhysx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Buy my book! Buy my book! Buy my . . .
- FushBuck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Many nutrients are are not properly absorded by the body and are eliminated through defecation. If an animal is eating ***** that means whatever diet it is eating does not have enough nutrients, and the animal is trying to make up for it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Soylent Dog is made out of... green?
- DrewBlood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I cook my dogs' and cats' food too. I wouldn't say I spend 20 minutes for the whole week, but it's really nice being able to feed each animal based on it's needs without having to buy each one special fancy food, and it doesn't cost any more than a 50 pound bag of Purina once a month either. My oldest dog had Parvo when he was young and has always had serious digestive problems. Once we started feeding him from scratch with a diet much heavier in whole grains he almost immediately started showing huge improvements.
- knucklebusted, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5My dog is 13 years old, still runs around like a puppy, jumping and playing. She eats whatever bagged dog food I can get at the grocery and our table scraps. She will eat anything I give her except skim milk. She knows it is worthless, just like I do. Someone in the family fed her chocolate until I caught them and told them never give a dog chocolate.
Her favorite snack, and I don't know why, is hardened grass sludge from under the mower after it has dried a week and I have to scrape it out. She loves that stuff and if I thought there was a market for it, I'd cut it into chunks and sell it by the pound. - fupresti, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I feed my dog Canidae for dry food and subsititue a raw bone from our local butcher every so often. For gods sake, stay away from anything sold at Petsmart and check out your local feed store, they carry the good brands.
Holitstic foods are the way to go, it will say so on the package. - satanatnmtedu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4You can make gelatin out of hooves, but typically it is made from vegetable proteins.
- pdworkin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Dog and cat foods are a post WWII marketing idea that paid off for Purina. Before that, pets ate table scraps, and no-one ever heard of buying special food for a dog or cat. Just sayin'.
- bobbknight, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7The stuff thats left over from the fine cuts of meat, and the sausage thats made from ***** and lips, the slime that rises from the tank, thats dog and cat food.
- happycat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Pet food is made for our benefit, not your pet's. Its is processed so it wont rot or spoil, the processing removes most of the smell so we wont be offended by it, and best of all it's cheap!
Dog food is the leftovers of plants and animals that get processed into human food. At home, what you throw away after you cut up your meat and veggies is what gets made into pet food. What? You thought Kibbles and Bits or Iams it was all grade A beef or white breast meat? HA! *****, feeding your pet wieners is probably better than most pet food.
I had a summer job at a factory that processed 20 000+ birds/day. What didn't get processed into food for humans was what what got swept up and put into dump trucks and sent to a rendering plant where it was made into dog food. This was the feathers, heads, beaks, feet,entrails, and diseased animals. I get it that naturally, this is a big part of what a carnivore would eat in the natural state, but most people don't. I love it when people say "don't feed your dog table scraps...that's human food, not dog food" when I had two dogs that lived well into their teens by just being fed table scraps.
Pet food is a scam. It is a convenience, but like humans, pets do need a diet that is varied. - Thuktun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It's a conspiracy to cover up the truth, no doubt.
- MurderMystery, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Well they do make gelatin out of the collagen found in hooves, skins, and bones. This doesnt seem too unbelievable.
http://home.howstuffworks.com/question557.htm - omardogg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It has NOTHING to do with PETA--those of us who feed our pets raw are feeding beef, pork, chicken, turkey, goat----PETA peeps are against that, too. This raw feeding is a relatively new but rapidly growing trend. There are many vets who feed their own pets raw, some who recommend it to their clients, and others who are reluctant to recommend it since they have little scientific proof of its safety and efficacy and would be defenseless in a lawsuit should a client claim raw feeding killed her pet.
- FushBuck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3From the same article I linked:
"As a general rule, consumers do not apply adequate skepticism when it comes to selecting a pet food. Consumers often attempt to compare products based solely on price. But as long as pet food manufacturers present their products in different sized bags with ingredients of varying quality and no reason to clearly label their products, the consumer must engage in a healthy dose of analysis before selecting a brand. It would be impossible for a company to use quality protein and grain ingredients while selling a 40 pound bag of dog food for $14.95. Compare this to the price of a single pound of chicken at a grocery story. While the quality of the chicken purchased at the grocery store is probably higher than that of the protein used in the dog food, that 40 pound bag of dog food should still contain a much larger amount of protein than the single pound of chicken if the dog food intends to nourish your pet for 30 days. The cost of enough cereal to feed yourself breakfast every day for a month is around $12-$15. That cost alone would be much higher than the cost of most generic dog foods, and not only offers little to no protein but feeds one meal per day rather than three. Furthermore, commercial pet foods are convenience foods. They require no effort or preparation on the part of the pet owner. The true cost comparison, therefore, should be to a human food that is ready to eat or something served in a restaurant. Yet many consumers feed their pets the “convenient” commercial dry food every day, 2-3 times a day, for its entire life. The pricing logic alone should persuade that the animal receives less than adequate nutrition.
Most consumers believe that feeding their pets shouldn’t break the bank, and they have a point. With Americans owning around 60 million dogs and 70 million cats,[296] buying expensive so-called “premium” brands is not financially feasible for many pet owners. But owners need to learn how to correctly analyze pet foods before they can compare prices. Foods with more protein and better quality and more digestible ingredients will satiate the animal using less food than will a lower quality food with less digestible ingredients. Thus, a $15 bag of food with better quality and digestible ingredients could feed an animal for a longer period of time than a similarly sized $10 bag with inferior ingredients. If the $15 bag feeds the animal for a full month, while it takes two $10 bags to feed the animal for a month, then the owner will end up saving money by purchasing the more expensive pet food—never mind the potential savings from fewer visits to the veterinarian to treat diet-related illnesses.[297]" - rowanjl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Shokk, I'm glad you think so, however, it'll be your chin that drops when you realize that nobody else actually gives a crap.
- dojonz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Kids, do you know what dog food tastes like? .. It tastes just like it smells.. DELICIOUS!
- ratporchrico, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Not a huge surprise this - the food industry is a business, the aim of business is to make money - if you can buy it cheap or get it free and make it palatable enough to sell to someone else then you got it made. Problem is this is probably going on in the human food industry too. The trans fats thing is only the start. We've been feeding swill to our animals for years but at least it was honest swill and it was ours. Now they're selling it back to us as healthy for our pets and, who knows, for us too.
Interestingly local authorities in the UK wont let us feed swill to pigs these days - it's got to be bought from a feed manufacturer who gets it....where? - fjacky66, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@ duzytata,you're right i have one seventeen Y/O cat and two others less then 5 Y/O.Iv fed them 9 lives forever,they will only eat 9 lives and the old one fights the other ones for more.Sound like more PETA animal rights nut,***** heads if you ask me...
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