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- Kajman, on 06/11/2009, -10/+259shut up, House.
- MWeather, on 06/11/2009, -7/+242I knew it was Crohn's as soon as I read the article description
- samard2002, on 06/11/2009, -2/+141I can't tell you how many times I've fired up the old microscope to look at slides of my own intestinal tissue.
- enantiodromia, on 06/11/2009, -5/+126Science... It works.
- Rain12913, on 06/11/2009, -12/+130Doctors are incredibly smart, but more importantly, they're highly trained and have extensive experience. Usually, when a patient suggests a diagnosis they are completely incorrect. Of course there are rare examples of people being correct while their physicians are incorrect, but this is quite uncommon.
- DrJen, on 06/11/2009, -8/+116FTA: As for Terry's future, she'll start nursing school in the fall. She's written a book for children about Crohn's disease, which she hopes to have published. In the meantime, she's grateful for her science class and for the pathologist for giving her her slides.
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She sounds like a remarkable young woman! - ChronicColonic, on 06/11/2009, -11/+108It is great when kids discover things that trained professionals cannot.
- ivansusanin, on 06/11/2009, -9/+93HI EVERYBODY!
- cosworth99, on 06/11/2009, -3/+81Hi Dr. Nick!
- Jhorra, on 06/11/2009, -4/+74It's funny that the main symptom she had was the same main symptom of Crohn's, and yet no doctor ever put the two together.
- snached, on 06/11/2009, -4/+62bitches.
- Julian88888888, on 06/11/2009, -2/+58great or depressing?
My vote is depressing. - noPCtoday, on 06/11/2009, -4/+51sure she probably knew it was Crohn's when she had the syndrome, but what's impressive is that she actually took sample, did research and seek evidence to support her theory.
btw I have Crohn's too. :( - GeneralCoolman, on 06/11/2009, -3/+43It was either going to be Crohn's or Ulcerative Collitis. Easy medical diagnosis, but I'm somehow not surprised that the doctors missed it with the state of the medical system.
- EnTaroTassadar, on 06/11/2009, -3/+43Meanwhile, every teen on the internet is diagnosing themselves with Asperger's to explain why they can't talk to girls.
- Atoth, on 06/11/2009, -2/+35I knew too, because I also have Crohn's Disease. :(
- briantest1, on 06/11/2009, -11/+44That is amazing!!!
- thatashguy, on 06/12/2009, -0/+31It's not Lupus, it's never Lupus.
- xtc46, on 06/11/2009, -0/+31you are correct, especially since sites like webMD are so easily accesable, doctors have to be very hesitant when listening to patients. One of the major problems is people read symptoms they dont have then say they have them, or have something similar and call it the wrong thing.
For instance, a person might not sleep well some times, and call it insomnia, or a symtom might be aches in x part of the body, then the person starts to get those aches becasue they believe they have a disease. - TheNyquilKid, on 06/11/2009, -3/+31It's not lupus.
- highdef, on 06/11/2009, -8/+36You can cure Crohn's for a 2 year period by "resetting" your immune system. The treatment uses your own adult stem cells. Still in trials though.... Look up "Randomized controlled trials of autologous hematopoietic stem cell transplantation for autoimmune diseases"
- AusJP, on 06/12/2009, -0/+25I love how 90% of Digg members suddenly become doctors when a medical story suddenly front pages.
Their medical degree from google serves them well... - RobotCitizen, on 06/11/2009, -0/+21Gastroenterologists don't look at pathology slides. Pathologists look at pathology slides. But your point about diligence stands.
- EddiePotato, on 06/11/2009, -1/+22It's a little like House, in that doctors are often rude and abrasive. just not in a geniusy way.
- SeverTomorrow, on 06/11/2009, -3/+23Nowhere in this article did it say that the doctors could not put two and two together. It says the doctors could not find a granuloma, and that they can be very difficult to spot. The student is even commended for her "meticulous" work in finding it. If the doctors cannot spot the telltale sign that would give a clear diagnosis, then it wouldn't make much sense to go ahead with the diagnosis and treatment anyway, would it? If they did and it wasn't Crohn's, we'd instead be on here calling the doctors incompetent for treating without a clear diagnosis.
- snapcase, on 06/12/2009, -1/+21I haven't seen that show in years and yet I still read that in Dr. Nick's voice.
- andrewayres5, on 06/11/2009, -1/+20i had a feeling it was going to be Crohn's disease as i read the description
i was just diagnosed with it at the begging of grade 9 this year :( - themastersb, on 06/12/2009, -0/+19I dunno why she didn't go see Dr. House...
- Fleagleman, on 06/11/2009, -2/+20Is she arrogant and narcissistic? Does she berate people on a daily basis, and require a cane to walk?
- pwntuspilate, on 06/11/2009, -4/+22Forgive me for being presumptuous, but by your comment it seems to me that you really don't know very much about Crohn's disease, or dealing with serious illness in general.
As someone who has been diagnosed with Crohn's, I can tell you that the treatment available drastically improves your quality of life. I experienced the worst pain I have ever known due to the disease before my medication effectively put me in remission. Of course, the disease still remains a large part of my life, but it is something I understand and can manage, unlike before.
It's true that she hasn't 'cured' her disease, but I'm sure that identifying it has brought her some peace of mind, along with the fact that she will be able to properly confront it.
I also personally take offense to the remark that anyone with Crohn's disease is '*****' - Xviper78, on 06/12/2009, -1/+18Who are we to tell her what profession to choose? She can do what ever the hell she wants. If she wants to be a nurse, let her be a nurse. She seems bright enough to choose her own path.
- TrevorBradley, on 06/11/2009, -1/+18Or Irritable Bowel.
Standard Testing Procedure:
First comes the colonoscopy. If that shows something it's UC. Or Colon Cancer.
Next comes the barium x-ray with small bowel follow through. If that shows something it's Crohn's.
If neither test shows something, it's likely IBS.
Yes I have Crohn's. And yes I've been on the probulator. The endoscopy is the worst. I wish it upon all my enemies. - zomgflamer, on 06/11/2009, -3/+19I agree, 99% of the time patients are wrong. However incompetence in the medical field is pretty common.There are many people who pass the medical exam but lack talent or the mental process that great doctors have.
- mnemy, on 06/11/2009, -1/+16Docs miss a lot. Real life isn't like House.
- konebone69, on 06/12/2009, -0/+15My dad is an ER doc, and has been for 20+ years, so I've heard hundreds of stories while growing up about the dumb ***** people come in for. The VAST, VAST, VAST, majority of people who come in that are 100% sure of one thing or another are flat out WRONG. You don't go through over a decade of schooling and training for nothing, and no amount of web surfing can replace their extensive experience and wisdom (keep in mind I'm talking about good doctors). The human body isn't like a car engine or computer, it's infinitely more complicated and a million times harder to diagnose.
My favorite story is when a woman came in absolutely flipping out, demanding immediate attention because her hand was covered in dark blue spots and streaks. She was sure her hand was about to fall off or something worse so when he poured some rubbing alcohol on a cloth and rubbed one of the spots off she turned the other color - red - because it suddenly hit her that a pen must have exploded in her pocket and covered her hand.
For every 1 person that comes in with legitimate problems, there's 2 with just as many complaints but nothing medically wrong with them. It absolutely amazes me how him and the other doctors know how to wade through the ***** and pick out the patients with actual problems. If every doctor took every patients complaints and suggestions seriously without questioning them, healthcare in general would implode on itself.
For every story you might be able to find like this, I can find a thousand where the exact opposite happened. - alphaterminus, on 06/12/2009, -0/+15ER doc here. 95% of diagnoses are easy. It's the 5% that are hard that keep the good doctors up at night. In my field, I basically rule out the things that could immediately kill you. After that, sometimes it takes days, weeks, or months of diagnostic testing to confirm a diagnosis. This is particularly true in rheumatoid / autoimmune condition like connective tissue disorders and lupus. Often times things fall into a hodge-podge called "mixed connective tissue disorders." Which really means "we don't know what it is nor how to cure it." There are an incredible amount of people out there who have psychosomatic illnesses and we chase our tails trying to find something physical. I suppose it's our nature to assume some bizarre contradictory symptoms are "nothing." I always feel it's my job to rule out anything overtly physical. When most of us say "nothing" we mean it's either unexplainable or nothing that will kill you or it's psychosomatic. I know psychosomatic illnesses are "something" and most are incredibly difficult to treat. Most of us are drilled never to say "I don't know" and that's unfortunate.
- TBombadil, on 06/11/2009, -10/+25well she didn't "solve" her medical problem as she put it, you really can't solve that one, she just established that shes *****.
- Sail3, on 08/04/2009, -3/+18Hmm, considering Chrohn's Disease isn't extremely uncommon, and she suffered from the telltale signs, it's pretty odd that her doctors weren't able to diagnose her. Still, props to her for figureing it out.
- JohnnyDIGGme, on 06/12/2009, -0/+14House would have made her figure it out for herself anyway.
- EddiePotato, on 06/11/2009, -0/+14Incidentally, the worst possible way to try and diagnose yourself is via the internet. A dozen sites will have you believing any random little symptom will lead to a painful death within the month.
- digggggggggg, on 06/11/2009, -1/+15The thing about medicine is that diagnoses are often based on alarmingly small amounts of evidence.
- shuffle, on 06/11/2009, -0/+13Not only would it have been in poor taste, it wouldn't have made any sense...
- Soniti, on 06/12/2009, -1/+14I think the fact that her class had Pathologists come in and train them on how to identify cellular abnormalities is one of the coolest ***** things to happen in a US classroom in recent history.
I wish I got to do cool ***** like that. - whiledo, on 06/11/2009, -0/+13That's actually the second worst possible way. The worst possible way is to get a doctor who is incompetent. Because not only do they also come to the wrong conclusions, but they start giving you drugs and procedures based on them.
- geekmansworld, on 06/11/2009, -2/+15Depressing.
If a gastrointestinologist can't diagnose Crohn's disease from a pathology slide, then what is even the point of having specialists?
I hope that doctor does his diligence next time. - BoneheadFarker, on 06/11/2009, -1/+14It's never lupus.
- greensky, on 06/11/2009, -0/+12Have you tried cutting out all dairy from your diet? For some people that helps tremendously.
http://www.nealhendrickson.com/mcdougall/021100puc ...
http://www.drmcdougall.com/med_colitis2.html - CaptainNoPants, on 06/11/2009, -0/+12How do you digg down a website? Tell me! I'm foaming at the mouth with religious intolerance!
- DontEatTheFish, on 06/12/2009, -0/+12@s0krat3z, this reminded me of the classic Simpson's moment(from Treehouse of Horror III)
Shopkeeper : "Take this object, but beware! It carries a terrible curse..."
Homer's upto something...
Homer : "Ooh, that's bad!"
Shopkeeper : "...but it comes with a free frogurt..."
Homer : "That's good!"
Shopkeeper : "...the frogurt is also cursed..."
Homer : "That's bad!"
Shopkeeper : "...but you get your choice of topping..."
Homer : "That's good!"
Shopkeeper : "The toppings contain potassium benzoate..."
[Silence]
Shopkeeper : "That's bad!"
Homer : "Can I go now?" - JoeVet, on 06/11/2009, -1/+13My daughter had a speach impediment until a seven year old child took her aside and cured her in about 10 minutes. We were getting ready to start speech therapy which would likely have lasted years. Doctors aren't the only ones who can diagnose and cure.
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