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- spacefreak, on 10/11/2007, -1/+244So the dogs have been right the entire time. How did we miss that?
- TVisdoG, on 10/11/2007, -9/+223Obligatory Idiocracy quote:
"Excuse me, I think this might be Gatorade or something. I was just looking for some regular water."
"Water? You mean like in the toilet? What for?" - refreshers, on 10/11/2007, -8/+121Teacher - "Billy, stop drinking from the fountain! Don't you know civil people drink from the toilet?"
Billy - "...I knew it!" - pierrelourens, on 10/11/2007, -1/+109Alcohol is such a lame excuse for not letting kids bring legitimate water bottles. Bunches of people bring water to my school, and we've never had a problem with alcohol in the classroom. And that's a school with 2,300 kids.
- logicalnoise, on 10/11/2007, -5/+100knowing our school systems and politics I expected the kid to get suspended or expelled for being a "truther".
- fartmungerer, on 10/11/2007, -7/+101english project?
- Disjunto, on 10/11/2007, -4/+76in my school we just bring in the bottles of alcohol ;)
- griz, on 10/11/2007, -3/+70What has the world come to when we give 13 year olds access to Q-Tips and Petri dishes?
- kent1146, on 10/11/2007, -6/+71"...to challenge a ban on students from bringing bottled water to class. It seems some were using it to sneak in alcohol."
Geez... she goes through the trouble of an entire project so she can get a little sauce during school hours? Someone get this kid a drink. - allywilson, on 10/11/2007, -7/+52@dildooreilly
I bet he just wanted a beer during lessons. - g0thm0g, on 10/11/2007, -3/+43For a more accurate and legitimate comparison, he should have collected water in a container then dipped the cotton swab in the water instead of swabbing the surfaces of the toilet and the water fountain. He also should have used more than one toilet at different times throughout the day. If he collected the sample from the toilet in the morning before many students had used it, the results are even less surprising. This project only proves that the surface of the water fountain hosts more bacteria than that of the toilet. No real surprise there considering the daily cleanings of the toilets. Moral of the story: Don't let your mouth TOUCH the water fountain.
- thefirelane, on 10/11/2007, -5/+37Of course, the funny thing about your statment is that this kid meets my very definition of "truther"
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Someone who sloppily uses science to back up a position they already came to.
All this kid did was prove that there is less bacteria growing in toilet water than in water fountain water. This doesn't mean toilet water is 'better' for you however, as the petri dish doesn't measure levels of things such as bleach (or lead for that matter), which might be worse for you that the water fountain bacteria.
So yes, he is a "truther" - jabab, on 10/11/2007, -1/+32It's not rocket surgery.
- timusca, on 10/11/2007, -3/+32"This water tastes like *****! Oh, wait... its worse than *****."
- cs02rm0, on 10/11/2007, -5/+30@battleloser
Yep, the bowl:
"dunking the cotton in the bowl's center and then dragging it around the rim for a complete sample"
Nice. If the cleaning fluid added to the toilet had anything to do with it then, although there will have been less bacteria it probably would have been less safe to drink I'd have thought.
Still, it was enough to convince the teachers from the sound of it so all credit to him. - ebony, on 10/11/2007, -1/+23So what? Bacteria is everywhere. The toilet water would just be full of bleach and other cleaning chemicals that kill bacteria.
- datastorageguy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+22Less than our keyboards though.
- asdfasdf, on 10/11/2007, -1/+21Anyone has access to petri dishes and agar medium. You can order the petri dishes online, they are sold for a few cents each and are pre-sterilized and disposable, so you don't have to throw them into an autoclave. As for agar medium, there are hundreds of recipes. PDA is popular and available. Potato-Dextrose-Agar is made as follow: Slice a potato and boil it for an hour. Save the water (now potato solution). Mix 3-5% dextrose (health food store) with agar, then add potato water. Now boil this to sterilize it. You can to pour it into a petri dish before it gets cold, because it hardens. You don't want it too hot though, so keep an eye on it. After it's poured, swab/scrape mycelium or spores onto it, cover, sit and wait. All of this must be done in a glove box, else you risk competition molds and bacteria contaminating the petri dish.
Want to see why washing your hands is important? Touch the petri dish without washing your hands, and come back in a few days. NASTY! - AlphaEta, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18Instead of allowing the kids to bring bottled water to school, they should teach them to stop being such germphobes!
This obsession with cleanliness is why allergies are becoming more and more prevalent in industrialized nations.
We have an immune system for a reason, and for most of us it works quite well. - KMye, on 10/11/2007, -3/+19The spigots on those new fountains are already dirtier than any toilet drowning in bleach. Not that I disagree that teachers should have water or the kids should be allowed to have bottles, but for the administrators to freak out and replace the casing on the water fountains just shows their complete lack of a scientific foundation. I still remember a project in 9th grade bio where we ran around the school with q-tips, and our teacher encouraged us to make the exact same comparison between the toilettes and water fountains.
- bdurkin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14Just do what I did back then....jello shots. Nobody questions because everyone loves Jello.
- g0thm0g, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15@ Kallius
Possibly, but not necessarily. It depends on the area he swabbed. That's why you collect the water and test IT to find out. - Zoltair, on 10/11/2007, -4/+15Just because bacteria doesn't grow in bleach isn't gonna make me want to drink it... This is lame, the tests are totally useless and verify nothing...The student had no idea on what to test for or how to do it. Hell take a dish of milk and see what happens....
- Kurisuku, on 10/11/2007, -4/+15We didn't have access to this type of stuff in my HIGHSCHOOL, let alone 5th grade... The hell?
- neuropsychguy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11"found most peoples [sic] mouths have more bacteria than a toilet too"
Who cares about the number of bacteria. It's the type of bacteria that really matters. Not all bacteria are created equal. - spacefreak, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12Well of course nobody is going to actually drink it, but he wanted to prove that it would be more beneficial for the schoolkids to drink bottled water instead of the alternative the administration wants the students to use, the water fountains. He made his point by showing that if the school can care that much about the toliets, they should care that much about the water fountains; or, the students should be allowed to bring in water bottles.
- rderveloy, on 10/11/2007, -8/+16"smart kid :)"
"My dog is smarter than your honor student" just doesn't quite cover it anymore. - MOJIRA, on 05/17/2008, -5/+13@Aeaus
The could just sell water bottles (at a reasonable rate... maybe no profit for the school even) at the school. - oirvine, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10@ Mohanned
Or they could just clean the water fountains once in a while and replace the old fountains with filtering ones. - ivanisavich, on 10/11/2007, -12/+20Well at least all he'll be cleaner from all the swirlies he's gonna get.
- mal1964, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Urine is sterile in the way that it doesn't have any bacteria etc in there, mainly due to the slight acidity .
- splitsixty, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9BY the powers of ENGLISH, I consider this toilet CLEAN!!
- jiggawoot, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9I'm not sure the sticky residue on your keyboard is actually bacteria......
- Sheff, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8When I was his age we didn't have Q-tips. We had to grow our own cotton and melt resin to make our own Q-tips and petri dishes, all while walking uphill in the snow both ways.
- Battleloser, on 10/11/2007, -14/+21The toilet bowl, or the tank?
- actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10I've seen the moniker "dildooreilly" attached to too many troll-like comments. Today I block.
- AntietamVet, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Yes, this isn't a new idea. Kudos to the kid for getting it so much attention, anyway
- Slovenian6474, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I saw an old ***** (yes the show with Penn and Teller) where they tested many of the areas of the body to see which had more bacteria on it. To their surprise, the ass cheek was one of the cleanest. The 2 areas that were had far more bacteria was the mouth and hands.
People can be so anal (pun not intended) about cleaning the toilet seat, yet rarely disinfect their keyboards. - Aeaus, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10Take a bet on a project to defend a position ;)
- smedrick, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7I would hope they all do.
- cbreaker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5@alphaeta: Yea, that's why I don't use antibacterial soap, either, unless I need to clean cuts or something. Being exposed to those bacteria not only helps keep out immune system active, sometimes they can be beneficial and prevent illnesses.
The whole thing is pretty lame, really. The water fountain (which we call a Bubbler here in RI) doesn't stream the water all over the spout, it passes through the center of it. You're not putting your mouth over the spout. I thought it was fairly common knowledge by now that toilets aren't the dirtiest things around; especially because people seem to clean them more often the other things and there's always new fresh water cleaning them out. - combatchuck, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7Toilet seats are generally clean. It's a bad environment for bacteria to live. Of course, that's barring a person ***** all over it and leaving it to fester. A toilet seat with no poop on it is probably sterile.
- kurtwinter, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6This isn't about toilet vs. fountain - this is about how one kid tried to change a stupid ***** zero tolerance moron policy in a school to allow for bottled water. Truth is school administrators are ***** retards, who cannot do anything that isn't part of an arbitrary code somewhere, and despite the evidence showing how nasty the fountains are, still no bottled water - because someone might try to sneak alcohol in it. Give me a ***** break. There are few spirits that are clear enough to pass for water, and if a 12 or 13 year old kid drank a 20 oz bottle of vodka, I think everyone would know it without a stupid ***** rule book.
I think as long as these ***** insist on zero tolerance, we should downsize them, because obviously they aren't needed to make context sensitive decisions based on the merits or facts of any circumstance, as they would tend to never disagree with their holy little policy manuals. - ArmandoM, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7"Why didn't young Kyleray include bottled water in his little experiment?"
Because it has been banned. They haven't banned the toilet water....yet. - LuckyNYC, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4So, let's see. For an English assignment he did a science experiment??? And not a very good one at that. For the water fountains he tests the actual spigot itself where bacteria would grow (not the water coming out of the fountain) and for the toilet he tests the water in the center of the bowl (not under the rim where bacteria would grow). Sounds like a biased experiment to me. How is this newsworthy?
- rhabd0mancer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Alcohol is a good disinfectant!
Let the kids bring alcohol to school! - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5"We didn't have access to this type of stuff in my HIGHSCHOOL, let alone 5th grade... The hell?"
Really? One of our 5th grade science projects was to walk around the school and swab different objects, them grow bacteria in the petri dishes and see where the most bacteria was around our school. And you guys didn't have them in high school?!? - smacksaw, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8With a name like Kyleray he's got a great future ahead of him as a NASCAR driver.
- griz, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5The power of the petri!
- Lazerous, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4And along the same lines, a public toilet seat is cleaner than a public keyboard....
Think about that next time you're in the library or student center. -
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