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- philforhumanity, on 12/06/2007, -1/+6But gift cards are evil: http://www.philforhumanity.com/Stop_Purchasing_Gif ...
- inactive, on 12/06/2007, -2/+5Yep, just got a bill for $650 for the latest test our doctor highly recommended for our daughter. As usual, the results came back negative. I fall for that every time. The one time I choose not to take the doctors advice will be the one I regret... it's that gamblers mentality.
- badqat, on 12/06/2007, -0/+3And too damn cheap to get a decent insurance package so he can pay for his HDTV...you know, the important stuff...
- Super6, on 12/06/2007, -1/+4Michael Moore is reasonably healthy? I thought the term was "obese"
- debuggercll, on 12/06/2007, -0/+3I thought the title said "the E.T. gift card". Color me disappointed.
- badqat, on 12/06/2007, -0/+3Eh? Why?
Again...what's up with folk thinking this stuff is "free"? Someone has to pay...including you. - badqat, on 12/06/2007, -0/+2Is that pre or post insurance payment. And what was the test, just out of curiosity?
- D3koy, on 12/06/2007, -2/+3You want to fix this? Vote...bottom line is that is enough...
- gujjuweb, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Maybe time is ripe for Medical Tourism industry to get organized
- badqat, on 12/06/2007, -1/+2I think you confused folks with your point. They all think socialized medicine grows on trees and no one has to pay for it....
- xNaquada, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Thank god I live in Canada, where if something serious happens to me, and I get hospitalized, I don't get ***** with the bill too.
- pigboyohboy, on 12/06/2007, -1/+2And while we're complaining about nitwits who think they should get the taxpayers to cover their medical expenses, I'd like to say a word or two about fire and police protection: I'm sick and tired of suffering under a heavy tax burden so poor people can have police and fire protection services.
The police cars are always cruising up and down the poor neighborhoods, stopping crime, hauling in the baddies and putting them behind bars. Wouldn't it make much more sense for people to hire their own private security services? Why should I pay to "Protect and Serve" the less fortunate in society?
And why am I paying a disproportionate share of the cost of my local fire department? The poor people in town get the same fast response and fire extinguishing services that I do and they don't pay a dime for it! It simply isn't fair. We should all hire our own private fire extinguishing services.
If the poor folks want police and fire protection, they should stop buying TV sets and fast food and start paying their own way in society. - badqat, on 12/06/2007, -2/+3You do realize you'll still be paying, correct? And if you don't pay enough, the quality will go down...tremendously.
Government doesn't fund anything...it's citizens do. - pbasch, on 12/08/2007, -0/+1If I got services, instead of hideously expensive international invasions designed exclusively to guarantee the king a second term, it would be worth it. I exclude the necessary, but botched, international invasion of Afghanistan.
- Pake, on 12/06/2007, -1/+2Agreed. Unless healthy means weighing twice what you should. Obese people who don't take care of their own health have no right to bitch about not getting health care IMO. Only people who eat healthy and exercise (and the physically or mentally disabled) should be allowed health care. Everyone else should have to work for it, because they're the ones jacking up the prices already.
- kaptainchump, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1If it is an elective procedure for fire extinguishing or incarcerating, please make sure you pay your copay to the private companies before they do any work ok?
- rumspice, on 12/06/2007, -1/+2I see everyday situations that make me conflicted about this: Medi-Cal (CA's version of Medicaid) is a friggin joke - one of the most disorganized institutions, but for people who qualify and who are able to weed their way through it, it is great coverage (no copayments, no premiums). The chances of finding a physician / health plan that accepts Medi-Cal? Challenging to say the least.
Medicare is also dysfunctional, but I feel, better than Medi-Cal. Health plans are begging people with Medicare to join their plans, likely because the health plan has a juicy contract with Medicare, despite the fact that Medicare beneficiaries are among the patients who incur the most services, [don't believe me? It is the annual enrollment period for Medicare right now, when people have the opportunity to switch their health plan, and Medicare beneficiaries are receiving a ***** load of marketing stuff from health plans]. But the health plans typically have high copayments / coinsurance for their Medicare members. And have you seen the Medicare Part D design? If you land in the coverage gap, you pay 100% of the cost of your meds, until you spend "x" amount and you get out, [health plans have to follow the Part D design, but are able to adjust the levels slightly, so they differ plan to plan].
At the same time, we have people who are such hypochondriacs that they constantly go to the doctor, and thus run up costs. And in general, people live unhealthy lifestyles. I'm constantly shocked by the sheer number of patients who have diabetes, hypertension, morbid obesity, etc, all of which lead to more health problems. Americans don't take care of themselves, and I'm not sure that I'm ready to pay for them to get healthcare they wouldn't need if they made different choices. But who am I to decide who gets decent healthcare at a decent, afforable price? I'm not, because despite individual choices, everybody should be able to have access to health care. I guess I sit on the fence. - badqat, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Even funnier, he must have a really crappy CPA, because he can't write this off as a "professional" or "work-related" expense legally.
- badqat, on 12/06/2007, -1/+2No one is stopping you! Have at it!
- inactive, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Post insurance, and the latest was a VCUG and an ultrasound. The result of a couple urinary tract infections. Of course it was a sign there may be a problem that could cause permanent kidney damage.
- WickedOwl, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1First thing that came to my mind was the PSA in Bioshock (near the Surgical Savings area):
"Potentially terminal illnesses won't wait until payday!" - badqat, on 12/06/2007, -5/+6Uh...wait a second...the author is full of crap.
He states "Universal health care is a pro-business solution. GM spends more on health care than it does on steel. In the global marketplace, taking the burden of health care off of American employers will make us more competitive and bring jobs back to this country."
Who's going to pay for this great universal coverage? He wants to take the "burden" on the employers, and place it on whom, exactly?
As usual...whining about something and offering no real solution...like who is going to pay for it...because someone will have to pay, and pay dearly. He bitches about a $50 copay...and mentions how he took the lowest grade of insurance he could...because I'm guessing he didn't want to pay the difference.
And he thinks folks on social security are doing great - tell that to my 85 year old grandmother who lives on a fixed income of $800 a month via social security - and that our educational system is great - tell that to most inner city residents.
The author doesn't have a clue, but apparently seems to think he'll get off scott free if we had socialized medicine. Clueless, clueless, clueless... - kaptainchump, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1I think it's amazing that in our society, people say they don't want to pay for other peoples' illnesses, but we're already doing this! The only people that get free healthcare are those people which are too poor or are > 65 years old. The same people that get the free healthcare are the hypochondiracs that take advantage of the situation they're in to go to the ER to get treated right away at the expense of tax payers as opposed to wait 1-2 days to go to a clinic Healthcare is ridiculously expensive and I don't think the amount we would pay in taxes would come even close to the amount owed for health insurance. As a full-time student, it costs me $150 a month when I have a perfect bill of health to purchase some of the crappiest insurance available. With these plans ranging from 100-150, you have to pay outrageous out of pocket expenses, deductables and copays in the even that something MIGHT happen. If something very very serious happens, the health insurance actually becomes more valuable, that is, if it's not a chronic condition with a cost exceeding X dollars.
How much more do these countries pay in taxes for their healthcare? - fungsayuk, on 07/09/2008, -0/+0do all the countries pay in taxes for their healthcare?
http://tongue-ulcer.50webs.com - KenC411, on 12/06/2007, -2/+2My girlfriend (born in Germany) told me that Germany no longer has socialized medicine and her family over there is learning to adjust with paying for its medicine. It would be wise for America to jump on the bandwagon before all of Europe follows Germany's example.
- TACV, on 12/06/2007, -5/+5Scary that it has come to this!
- badqat, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1Nice spam, btw...
- patpl22391, on 12/06/2007, -2/+2My parents pay for my insurance (which is really expensive). I have been in and out of hospitals my whole life. I have been on antibiotics the last six months. I can truly testify I would not be healthy today if I was living in another country with socialized medicine. It is not fair to others that I should pass my bill off to them. You shouldn't be punished for being in good health (you are paying for other peoples problems, when alternatively that money could be going to your family!) Anyone who saw 'sicko' and changed their mind in favor of socialized medicine should do some research before coming to any conclusions. We should be reducing government spending, not increasing it..
- inactive, on 12/06/2007, -0/+0Except the fire departments and police departments still benefit you. If they hadn't arrested someone for stealing a car, it may have been your car next. If the fire department hadn't put out a fire a mile away, it could've spread to your house.
- badqat, on 12/06/2007, -2/+2Yep, vote democratic all the way down the line...when you have to work until October to meet your tax burdens for the year, let me know how you like it...
- xrevision, on 12/06/2007, -0/+0"I tell you my tale not because I feel so screwed, but because I'm so fortunate. My family is relatively healthy, relatively affluent and relatively well-insured, yet health care costs still weigh on us."
Hey you jackass, buy better insurance coverage. - D3koy, on 12/06/2007, -2/+2Tax Write-off.....lol
- badqat, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1Until we see a real solution, the fence is the only place to sit.
- unpolloloco, on 12/06/2007, -2/+1I should probably ENSURE that I am INSURED
- badqat, on 12/06/2007, -2/+1I'm not opposed to a true solution to socialized medicine...one that doesn't lower our quality of healthcare, and one that doesn't force us all to work until November to meet our tax burdens. Unfortunately, no one seems to have one...
Kudos..you've hit the nail right on the head...how to do it with high quality care, and that it doesn't put us all in the poor house.
Now, if only I can keep from having to pay other people's mortgages! - insomniac8400, on 12/06/2007, -2/+1Even funnier, that means we already have socialized medicine.
- pdsoul, on 12/06/2007, -3/+2...or Cuba? :)
- pdsoul, on 12/06/2007, -2/+1No doubt....and here the author's indicating he's pretty well off...what about all the common folk?
- inactive, on 12/06/2007, -4/+2How is this scarier than giving a gift card to pay for your taxes in any country with socialized medicine? Oh wait, because a different person writes the check to the hospital it's OK.
- statiktv, on 12/06/2007, -5/+3ya i just love being Ensured...
- demonsnake69, on 12/06/2007, -5/+3I used was on the fence about healthcare, seeing how privatization could work and seeing how a government-funded plan could work, but after seeing Sicko and reading anecdotes like this I'm leaning more towards universal healthcare. It's a sad situation when you can't live healthy just because you can't afford it.
- pdsoul, on 12/06/2007, -4/+1haha supernatural solutions...there's gotta be a party in there somewhere...
- scabbers, on 12/06/2007, -5/+1Now I know why all those skaters with broken arms are screaming so loud.
- PrettyAngels, on 12/06/2007, -5/+0The no disease , be superb luck , by everybody must exercise everyday
- Kurdt67, on 12/06/2007, -7/+2Holy crap, I want to move to Europe...
- DarkSalvation, on 12/06/2007, -6/+1Lol that's a little unnerving
- pbasch, on 12/06/2007, -12/+2You want to fix this? Vote Democratic, all the way down the line. Maybe there will be a small chance of getting something done. As opposed to no chance. I mean, even the nicest Republican, Huckabee, probably thinks that if only you went to church, your prayers might get answered. Supernatural solutions cost nothing!



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