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- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+91Great, now vitamins are bad for me??? Whats next, "Bran - the silent killer"?
Well ***** it, I'm going back to smoking. - brooklynboy, on 10/11/2007, -4/+41Did anyone actually read the article?
"Here's the twist: Overall, the researchers found no link between multivitamin use and early-stage prostate cancer."
This study does not mention the age of the participants, nor the time frame of the study, nor how many of the 300,000 were already predisposed to prostate problems.
All in all, an attempt from the FDA to bolster support for upcoming legislation that would regulate supplement sales in the US, such as protein, fiber, vitamins, "health" bars, etc. More freedoms being sacrificed for the sake of big pharmaceutical companies worried that herbs, vitamins and homeopathic therapy may be just as powerful if not more effective than prescription drugs. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+26I'm in your pr0states, corrupting your g3n3s
- jspegele, on 10/11/2007, -0/+16@Ngai
Soooo.... take your vitamins, but be sure to smoke a lot of pot and drink a lot of coffee? Sweet. - musntSurfatWork, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14STUDY: People who come out with Headlines that say "Study:(anything good that you do/eat/think) is bad for you", is bad for you.
- zyl0x, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10This just in! Too much or not enough of anything possibly bad for you. Details at 11.
- inphu510n, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10So, this pretty much cinches this up for me:
"Here's the twist: Overall, the researchers found no link between multivitamin use and early-stage prostate cancer.
The researchers speculate that perhaps high-dose vitamins had little effect until a tumor appeared, and then could spur its growth."
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that taking a multi vitamin while you have any form of cancer is going to spur it's growth to some degree. You're giving it more fuel because you're giving all of your cells more fuel. - kelbear, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10The short version of all the cancer warnings:
You will die of cancer if you don't die from all the other stuff. The factors leading to cancer are as yet unknown, diverse, and complicated to such an extent that you will not be able to accomodate each variable.
The response? Take big warnings in stride, ignore the little stuff, moderate your lifestyle. And relax. - Number23, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11Taking a lot if vitamins will do little but give you expensive urine; you want to be healthy? Get regular exercise and eat a balance diet with a lot of vegetables.
- bl8tn, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Inaccurate title. The better article is at the BBC : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6657795.stm
The study said that taking *too many* multivitamins could be a problem. Do not exceed the recommended dosage. - Winters, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7@kelbear
Right on! Especially the relax part. Stress will kill you long before vitamin induced cancer. - meshman, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10"Great, now vitamins are bad for me???"
Excessive vitamin use, yes. Taking multi-vitamins for an extended period of time (years) can cause all kinds of horrible things such as gallstones. A doctor once told me, if you take vitamins, go on and off for a period of a couple months at a time so your body can cleanse out any buildup. - T0PS3O, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7Imbalance in vitamins and/or minerals has always been a one way ticket to disease. This is hardly news. Anyone informed of the working of the body and its interaction with nutrients knows this.
- BuzWeaver, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6I'm just waiting for the day when researchers conclude that "Existing leads to death."
- Ngai, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6FTA: "The researchers speculate that perhaps high-dose vitamins had little effect until a tumor appeared, and then could spur its growth."
Didn't we recently read an article talking about how marijuana shrinks tumors?...And that too much iron can cause cancer in men, and that tea and coffee both reduce the intake of it. - Darkhacker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Studies have also shown that frequent ejaculation will reduce the risk of prostate cancer. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to make myself healthier.
- thebyte2005, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I can almost guarantee that this study was funded by a pharmaceutical company.
- etnu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Anything taken in excess will kill you.
Multi vitamins aren't necessary if you actually eat healthy in the first place. Eating McDonald's and chugging coke all day, then trying to take a vitamin to get all your missing nutrients? You're going to die. - wozley, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Finally, an excuse to use for not taking vitamins.
- juszczec, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Read the label and don't take more than the recommeded dosage.
Is this really news? - arkmtech, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4This study is somewhat ridiculous: Prostate cancer is not an "if" but a "when."
If a man lives to be old enough, he *will* develop prostate cancer at some point. There's simply no getting around it. What's more, I didn't see any age groups mentioned in this article - it's probably reasonable to surmise these were men over age 50, though.
Either way, according to scientists just being alive causes cancer - so I'm going to continue popping my multivitamins, fish oil, flax seed, consuming plenty of antioxidants, and take week-long breaks every month or so just like I always have, so that I can go out and live life with the time I was given... bring on the cancer! - atomicwedgie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Caution... a beating heart is a sure sign of internal problems yet to be diagnosed. Please, stop the idiocy for the sake of the children!
- UrbanOne, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4@ brooklynboy:
Exactly right. I was just about to rebut - thanks for putting some objectivity into this crap report. I can't believe the AP wrote this article. Must have been heavily edited before it appeared in that well-known journal of medicine, The Ventura County Star. New England Journal of Medicine, look out!
Digg this article down: it actually does more harm than good. Someone should complain about shoddy reporting, to the AP and the "Star." - mojibyrd, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Somehow i do not quite believe this story, as i find when i take too much vitamins my body excrete the excess out in my urine and i have never heard of anyone overdosing on vitamins from eating lots of fruits and vegetables...perhaps this 'study' is tied in with the government and big pharma trying to ban vitamins and health foods so they can sell everyone more of those tasty drugs they want you to ingest....and of course they are okay for you.
- Ninnux, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2*****....and I know what I'm talking about.
This is about money, folks. - jmdajr, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I've been killing myself for years... and didn't even know
- hawk0168, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Correlation does not equal causation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation - Number23, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6"homeopathic therapy may be just as powerful if not more effective than prescription drugs. "
Homeopathy is unadulterated quackery. Its principles are completely non-falsifiable. - tardmongerster, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2That isn't the recommended MAXIMUM dosage on the label, it is the recommended MINIMUM dosage. It includes the minumum you should take in each day from all food and supplements combined to fend off disease caused by vitamin deficiency.
- keskiyonaurinko, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2At the end of the day, everyone is trying to make a quick buck, so those of you who are paranoid that Big Pharma is going to come and eat your babies, chill out, because the growing "Natural Remedy" industry is chomping at your ankles just as much.
Also, don't like the Pharmaceutical industry? Move to a country that actively negotiates the cost of medications. - dewyjuhl, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2***** I take vitamins every morning. *****. *****.
- rootofunity, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2The latest new study shows how anything good for you is actually worse then the bad stuff.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Actually their claims are completely falsifiable. It's been proven to be completely useless. Homeopathy has no ingredients in it...it has 'memory'.
- Szandor, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1subtle SPAM alert
- jondayz, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2First, I just can't trust anything that start off by stating "Government scientists turned to a study...", because the government controls the FDA and the FDA is funded by the prescription drug industry. They absolutely HATE the nutraceutical industry, because it is making people healthier and getting them away from their precious Rx drugs, and hence, their funding. My full time job is a distributor for a nutrition company, and I hear plenty about their breathing down our necks. (e.g. On your business cards you aren't allowed to print anything relating to your health successes with nutrition, or the FDA comes in to stab you)
Many vitamin users try to be home chemists and have NO idea what in the hell they are doing. If you are buying a myriad of pill vitamins from Wal-mart and you say, "Oh I need 600mg of this, and 200 of that," you're on the track to being more unhealthy than if you didn't take them at all. It's the cheap bulk pill useless vitamins that will give the entire industry a black eye. And you know what, it's the same pill vitamins that will give you colon cancer, because they never fully digest and you're left with bits and pieces of vitamins stuck in the folds of your intestine to rot. Next headline: Vitamins give you more cancer!
But there are multivitamins out there that are balanced for a human's needs. I personally have taken the same powdered multivitamin for years now, and soon after I began, I got off all 6 of my Rx meds for asthma and allergies. I've known people who have taken the same powdered vitamins for over 19 years, and they're healthier by the day. If you're interested PM me, if not, this isn't a billboard. - cloudtears, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yeah! And how is it that a stupid study like this always makes big headlines in the media?
Maybe Rupert Murdock (who seems to own most of the media) doesn't like healthy stuff?
When big media doesn't have a new global warming story to foist upon the public they turn to bashing healthy stuff.
At least big media provides employment for idiots... - danarama, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1either way the only solid conclusion they seem to have is that they make cancer worse not cause it.
- ninjaSteak, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1See : codex alimentarius
- nirvanix, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Obviously to get people to read the article they make these hyperbole claims. As meshman says, vitamins in excess probably are not good for you. If fact anything taken to excess, even water, is not good for you.
Apart from that, there are different types of vitamins manufactured in different ways. Synthetic vitamins are not worth taking ever in my opinion. Natural source ones are.
In general with regard to many of these medical studies that become one-line headliners - did you ever read the fine print on some of these - 'the subjects ingested 5000 times the normally recommended amount of the substance, blah, blah, blah'. - cogitocogito, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Vitamins are to your body what motor oil is to a car engine. It's good to take in if you have a deficiency,but can be damaging if you overload.
Most people in the first world get plenty of a diverse set of vitamins (through fortification, etc.), so long as we have some modicum of variation in our diets. Many of our foods are fortified to an extreme, to provide the illusion of being healthful (think Total cereal, ovaltine, etc. for the worst culprits).
With few exceptions, we get killed by what we DO eat, not by what we don't. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"First, I just can't trust anything that start off by stating "Government scientists turned to a study...", because the government controls the FDA and the FDA is funded by the prescription drug industry."
What a load of crock. So now the National Cancer Institute, a bunch of cancer doctors who spend their lives trying to cure cancer and is independent of the FDA is owned by the FDA and the drug industry?
"They absolutely HATE the nutraceutical industry, because it is making people healthier and getting them away from their precious Rx drugs, and hence, their funding."
Another load of crap. Funding comes from the Federal government not pharma.
"My full time job is a distributor for a nutrition company, and I hear plenty about their breathing down our necks."
That's because you guys are as big as many pharm companies. What's you quality assurance? What is actually in those pretty pills?
"And you know what, it's the same pill vitamins that will give you colon cancer, because they never fully digest and you're left with bits and pieces of vitamins stuck in the folds of your intestine to rot. Next headline: Vitamins give you more cancer!"
What scientific evidence do you have for making this statement. I'm not familiar with the data?
"But there are multivitamins out there that are balanced for a human's needs. I personally have taken the same powdered multivitamin for years now, and soon after I began, I got off all 6 of my Rx meds for asthma and allergies. I've known people who have taken the same powdered vitamins for over 19 years, and they're healthier by the day. If you're interested PM me, if not, this isn't a billboard."
Yes indeed. Go buy more of your vitamins. Please show me evidence for this claim. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Nope. National Cancer Institute funded by the National Institute of Health.
- bshock, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1More ***** medical journalism. This was a truly poor study, and as usual, the results were cherry-picked for maximum headline effect.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I don't know where you pulled out the $1.5 Trillion sales figure from but:
2005 US Prescription Generic Drug Sales: $28Billion
2003 US Prescription Drug Sales: $219Billion est. $650billion global sales for 2007
Over 1/2 of all sales go into research.
How much do these nutriceutical companies spend on research? - Le3f, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It was my way of balancing out an unhealthy lifestyle!
...oh the irony *sigh* - marytormey, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"The Constitution of this republic should make special provisions for Medical Freedom." please help!
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/869192123
Blackfoot South has been scammed by pharmaceutical companies into pushing dangerous drugs on patients,and even forcing patients to take drugs that cause pain, droolling and visual impairment, against their will. please help!
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/723924646 - danarama, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Vitamins arn't a remedy so much as preventive and a SUPPLEMENT to a healthy diet. Problem is big pharmacutical companies market drugs as the end all and be all of health care, usually with a long list of side effects and dangers. Governments negotiate prices for people to get them cheap for a reason, because they're expensive! and people generally need them or at least are told they do.
- danarama, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Vague results to say the least. It should be noted that any prolonged use with out balance will have negative efffects. Vitamin users should be smart too they've done wonders for me but I know how to use them.
- KungFuJesus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Hell, WATER can kill you if you drink it in excess (I'm talking extreme excess, but still)
the lesson is: consume everything in moderation -
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