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- Dumbledorito, on 09/27/2008, -1/+44I say keep it up. It's the closest we're going to get to universal health care, the way things are going.
- inactive, on 09/26/2008, -1/+43well ***** if the war on drugs didnt make me so paranoid i wouldn't have flushed that acid i swear.
- FaithclubDotNet, on 09/27/2008, -5/+34If the feds don't want people to flush their drugs, they should stop raiding people's houses.
- duggdowncatisad, on 09/27/2008, -0/+27It's the same water that's been around for billions of years. It just keeps getting recycled. That glass of water you're drinking was once dinosaur piss (and wooly mammoth piss, spotted owl piss, turtle piss, etc.)
- HairyFotr, on 09/27/2008, -0/+14@unitedkronos: Their stance is the same, only they say it's the same water that's been around for 6000 years.
- hark, on 09/27/2008, -2/+15wait.. so im drinking piss?? wtf
- wrekd, on 09/27/2008, -0/+12Um the problem with drugs ending up in the water is not because people flush drugs...It's because people flush thier piss and ***** that happens to contain the drugs they've been taking.
- zeblith, on 09/27/2008, -0/+11There are ways of filtering just about anything. The problem is that the treatments get exponentially more expensive (and thus prohibitive) as you try to attain higher and higher levels of purity, not that 100% purity is feasible/attainable. It's just a matter of "good enough", and for the most part we're pretty resilient beings. Plus, dilution does a lot of work in our favor.
-Anything- you send down the drain ends up in the water, really. It's just a matter of quantity/concentration. Whether you take a drug and excrete what you didn't metabolize in your urine, or flush it down the drain, some of whatever you have will end up somewhere. The only reason why this is suddenly an issue is that we're finally developing techniques and technologies which enable us to detect smaller and smaller concentrations of a wider variety of chemicals.
We share this world with Courtney Love, for God's sake. You have to be pretty naive to not expect some second-hand everything. - inactive, on 09/27/2008, -1/+11correction, THROW MORE pharmaceuticals down the toilet. im loving the freebies.
- inactive, on 09/27/2008, -0/+9You're drinking all kinds of stuff. I used to have a friend who worked in the lab at a sewage treatment plant and we'd go out and see what the skimmer had sifted out of the aerator sometimes. Back then it was mostly just plastic tampon dispensers, but occasionally a ring or something would come up. What's amazing to me is that a human body will break down in those aerators, but it spits out stuff like rings and watches. Apparently sewage treatment aerators have been used by several murderers to dispose of bodies. They just cut the body up and drop it in. It's gone in a few hours.
So who knows who you've been drinking. - PPCG4, on 09/27/2008, -0/+8You're kidding right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewage_treatment - CobaltBlue, on 09/27/2008, -2/+10I just put all my old drugs in a giant bottle, shake them up and randomly take 5 or 6 of them. It's a good time and a safe way to dispose of them.
- JohnFlux, on 09/27/2008, -0/+7And your eating plants grown from animal *****!
- qazturkey, on 09/27/2008, -0/+7Enjoy the Radon in your water.
- psud0, on 09/26/2008, -1/+6Yep, everything is possible. Probably they cannot filter the chemicals melted in water with classic biological and chemical water cleansing methods.
- chiapet, on 09/27/2008, -0/+5WOW! dude stop drinking the water
- overtoke, on 09/27/2008, -0/+5tell me more
- Dumbledorito, on 09/27/2008, -0/+4To be fair, the sewer system was designed with crap and piss in mind. Some of these other molecules aren't eaten by the bacteria and enzymes that get your other waste products.
Though if there was a way to filter it out, the resulting "Wild Card" pills one could make would probably be a hit at raves. - Jerky1312, on 09/27/2008, -2/+6I wonder what else doesn't get filtered.
- lutiana, on 09/27/2008, -1/+5"If you want people to do the right thing, make it easy for them to do it."
- MorganMghee, on 09/27/2008, -0/+4remember why you live in the hills? there are enough people flushing to make this warning even necessary, so you probably know the answer.
- megaton, on 09/27/2008, -1/+5They usually don't treat the trash and then pump it through the city as potable water...
- ecidnac, on 09/27/2008, -0/+3Who is flushing medications directly down the toilet in the first place? I would have assumed the source for the majority of drugs in the water was urine...
- ATLien74, on 09/27/2008, -0/+3and poop and drugs
- Ravatar, on 09/27/2008, -1/+4Except most bottled water comes from a tap.
Back to step 1. - waydee, on 09/27/2008, -0/+3illegal in most countries too.
- sigg14, on 09/27/2008, -1/+4why don't we first stop the pollution of our airwaves with pharmacutical commercials. I mean really what the *****, I can't turn on the TV for one minute without some commercial telling me about some drug that I really need for some obscure malady and to be sure to "ask your doctor about such and such drug" are we supposed to let the TV decide when we need medical treatment and not our doctors? if that isn't drug pushing I don't know what is.
- MorganMghee, on 09/27/2008, -0/+3when in healthy working order, the ground is a pretty effective filtering system. It's not a good idea to load it up with contaminates, but until we can convince people to change the habit, it's certainly better that pumping them directly into the water system.
- raptor87, on 09/27/2008, -0/+3I use reverse osmosis in my fish tank i guess i should save some for myself
- lutiana, on 09/27/2008, -0/+2Umm, so your attitude is if we can't eliminate it all together we should not even try???
Yes, some of the drugs you take are excreted by you and flushed, but there is a difference between that and flushing the tablets. I'd say the tablets would contain 100x the amount that you excrete, multiply that by the millions and millions of people doing it and you have a problem. If we simply stop flushing unused pills and recycle them properly that would be a significant amount of drugs that won't reach the water supply. IMO that is well worth it in the long run. - hhazard20, on 09/27/2008, -1/+3should've just ate it!
- dn11, on 09/27/2008, -0/+2My dad was on hospice care - with regard to all the heavy duty narcotics that were left over after he died - they specifically didn't flush them
- Dumbledorito, on 09/27/2008, -5/+7@untiedkronos: "Holy *****!"
- caseycoold, on 09/27/2008, -0/+2Double-distillation will get you pure water (there may be something in the parts per trillian level, but that is less than what will settle in the water from the air while you are drinking it). It's definatly attainable, most research institutes have it on tap. It just costs quite a bit.
- earther, on 09/27/2008, -0/+2You sir were the 1st in this thread to point out what should be the most obvious.
How can they be so blind? - kimbja98, on 09/27/2008, -0/+2Reverse osmosis is actually quite good compared to other purification such as distillation as there's no heating involved. Problem is, as the parent rightly said, it can leave a lot of waste water (although distilling that using solar would be cheaper as there would be more crap per liter in it). The pressures required to squeeze out more stuff from pure water become insane as the concentrations increase (and this has implications on the membrane strength as it has to be as thin, strong and selective as possible!).
Perhaps you could sell drinking water purified by RO and be satisfied with lower grade water for washing/toilet etc. I think they already do sell bottled water like that (but then some people like the minerals/natural taste so you have to add those bits back in).
Ideally though, you would be a good citizen and return drugs to the store for proper disposal. We already frown upon pouring volatile organics such as methylated spirits down the drain, drugs should be treated in the same way as they are difficult to remove and possibly hazardous with long term exposure. - blacktriangle, on 09/27/2008, -1/+2Can I get high from drinking California water?
- Idiggapony, on 09/27/2008, -0/+1I can see the new public service announcement commercials now:
"If you pee, don't take medications. If you take medications, don't pee." - Meresin, on 09/27/2008, -0/+1Yeah, don't flush drugs. Give them to random homeless people instead. :P
- lutiana, on 10/04/2008, -0/+1You sir are an idiot.
This issue is about REDUCING The amount of chemicals flushed. And that was what I was getting at in my original response.Your reply serves little else than to prove my point.
That 1% increase you talk of is quite substantial if you consider that millions of people are doing it. That could equate to hundreds or thousands of pounds of extra chemicals into the water table.
This campaign will reduce that by increasing awareness of the issue and in the long run that will be better for the planet and in turn all of us. - Bloodboiler, on 09/27/2008, -3/+4From the article: "The program recommends that drugs be dropped at special collection sites or tossed in the trash."
WTF good does throwing them in trash do. They still end up in the environment.
In the sane parts of the world we have for decades had a system where you can bring your outdated/unneeded pharmaceuticals to any pharmacy and they take care of disposing them safely (for free). - OMnicient, on 09/27/2008, -0/+1DO NOT FLUSH!!!
I will be traveling, examining and picking up old, unused, and unidentifiable medications personally myself. While I am presently busy with terminal cancer patients, and medical marijuana users who don't know which strain is in what bag, I will soon be accepting medications from from people suffering from anxiety, chronic pain, and persons taking ergot derivatives for migraine headaches.
Occasionally, plainclothes (often disguised as "homeless" or "indigent" may approach your abode) agents may be collecting for my institute, also. Please, give them everything. We are presently distributing the medications to "recycling centers" where these medications will be "processed" and certainly reused, as whole dosages, or in some cases, as precursors for very expensive medications, to be used in experiments and manufacture of popular remedies of everyday boredom.
We thank you all for your cooperation and support. - DAC1138, on 09/28/2008, -0/+1"(often disguised as "homeless" or "indigent" may approach your abode) agents"...
I believe they're called "native americans." Not "indigent" anymore. - rcschamp55, on 09/27/2008, -0/+1I don't believe that we are drinking sewer water!! WTF? How long has this been going on?
- cl2yp71c, on 09/27/2008, -0/+1That's equivalent to saying, "Don't eat that candy Billy".
Billy: OM NOM NOM - Mujokan, on 09/27/2008, -0/+1This makes me very nervous. Someone please flush a case of valium.
- Mujokan, on 09/27/2008, -1/+2If you get e.g. some of Noah's piss in your holy water, it becomes slightly more holy. This is why Mother Teresa was careful to store all her piss in mason jars. That was what she told me at the time, anyway...
- Shaman760, on 09/27/2008, -1/+2Already the linings of sewer pipes has become inundated with a layer of antibiotics....the overall level of these kinds of contaminations has risen over the past 20 years
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en- ...
You see what they did there.... - Theod48, on 09/27/2008, -0/+1so does that mean we are also drinking each others piss and ***** in water?
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