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- JCSaint, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31Great, so I won't shake as I slowly die of lung cancer. I'll risk the Parkinson's but first I need to quit smoking. (Damn you, Marlboro!)
- griz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23BREAKING: Doctors say,find that removing a patients head will prevent brain cancer.
- Woodski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Did you know 100% of non-smokers die?
- spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8It means there might be some treatment or cure that can be developed from researching the connection.
But I guess you're too busy demonizing smoking to see that. - spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Said it before and I'll say it again, I'd rather have a shorter life doing and enjoying things than a longer one where I don't have any fun.
- TomFrost, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14Every day there's some new health breakthrough that condones addictive or harmful things as a health measure. I think people make this ***** up so they feel good about their complete lack of willpower.
- macaddct1984, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8That's just not true.
Inhaling smoke instead of oxygen is never good for you. If you do it once a month, is less bad for you than daily, but it's still not good for you. - neuropsychguy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8And it's recently been discovered that research causes cancer in rats.
- Soman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5No. They are both vasoconstrictors
- Thud, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7So what?
Smoking has also been shown to prevent old age. - jlebrech, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Everything in moderation is OK, but i think addiction kinda throws the notion of moderation out of the window.
- R34C7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Amphetamines given to children during development increase dendridic concentration increasing brain capacity. That doesn't make it a good idea...
- cmiller1, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9*BLECH* anyone who smokes marlboros is a victim of cheap, bad-tasting, weak, chemically altered, shredded sheet tobacco
- turnlikeawheel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Cigarattes are $9 and up per pack here. The taxes gained from cigarette sales help fund our public health system which in turn treats the increased traffic in our hospitals due to smoking.
Stay there, we don't want you. - rondeth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4How's the air up there on your pedestal?
- Red_Eye, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3LOL According to your standard penicillin would never have been discovered. Why publish information about some nasty ass bread mold anyway.
Smoking isnt 100% good for you but until someone can conclusively prove it has no positive effect there is no harm in exploring what it can do.
I am a former smoker(quit 2 months ago), started when I was 14, at the time I had horrid allergies (over 200 items I tested positive for) and asthma. Had to run to the emergency room for epinephrine and everything a couple times a month. I started smoking and whiz bang by the time I was up to half a pack a day I had stopped being a sneezy wheezy mess except on extremely bad days. I stayed that way for the past 21 years. I just recently quit and the high pollen count here in Georgia is about to kill me LOL
So dont knock something thats mostly bad for you, most medicines are poison in the wrong amounts..... - willcode4beer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"Not everything should be published."
according to YOUR standards
believe it or not, some people want honest information and don't like the idea that someone should decide what is good for them to hear. - lysernix, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6http://www.whyquit.com - 100% free, helped me quit. (Get the "Never take another puff" pdf book)
- markp93, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7(this is tasteless...)
So, if you're not shaking from Parkinson's, you will be shaking from the caffeine. - InfamousAtheist, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6@technogenius:
"you are the victim of Marlboro..."
Actually, since I was about 13 when I started smoking (20 years ago) I actually do consider my younger self a victim of subversive marketing tactics by tobacco companies.
That does not, however, excuse my refusal or inability to quit smoking, and I don't plan on suing anyone over it.
I am glad that I *never* meet smokers who are ~10 years younger than me. It appears to me that all those lawsuits actually did some good, by teaching kids to avoid tobacco altogether.
/lights another Camel Turkish Silver (hey they quit all that illegal marketing stuff, right?) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Clips the worst 10 years off your life right off the end.
Big tobacco FTW! - senorcool, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5The real life guy from "Thank You For Smoking" must be having a hay day
- anj747, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Anyone got a light?
- salinemist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Stop it, MDMA is a horrible, horrible drug and will eat holes in your brain. :-)
Iravani, M., Jackson, M., Kuoppaaki, M., Smith, L. & Jenner, P. (2003). 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine (Ecstasy) Inhibits Dyskinesia Expression and Normalizes Motor Activity in 1-Methyl-4-Phenyl-1,2,3,6-Tetrahydropyridine-Treated Primates, Journal of Neuroscience, 23, 9107–9115 - JCSaint, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2cerial, I can only hope that you're kidding. And if you think you have no breathing problems, you either haven't been smoking that long or haven't been that physically active in a long time. Running upstairs shouldn't be as much of an ordeal as it is for me right now.
Techno,
I was joking. Though nicotine is addictive and a hard habit to break (especially since they increase the natural level of nicotine), I don't blame anyone but myself for my continued smoking. - spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2B&H are ***** horrible, what's wrong with you man.
- fuzzmello, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3this is good. i always have an ibuprofen with my coffee and cigarette.
- neuropsychguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3They did control for age (i.e., the smokers were the same age as the non-smokers - or at least the authors partialled out the effects of age, which "controls" for them). I'm as anti-smoking as anyone can be but these researchers did take age into account.
- spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"The challenge for scientists is to find a drug that will replicate the effect of Ecstasy with none of the attendant dangers."
I remember reading a book where the idea was that someone did invent something similar, a pill you could take that produced euphoria with absolutely zero negative side effects, it was all about the effects it had on society and that kind of thing... wish I could remember what it was called
Ring a bell for anyone? - freebird, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3LOL at all of you that think smoking will guarantee an early death.
What percentage of current centarians (people 100 years or older) currently smoke or smoked most of their lives?
What percentage of smokers develop lung cancer?
What percentage of the baby boomer population currently smokes or smoked most of their lives? Did we have a massive die off of these people I haven't heard of? Oh wait that generation is expected to to have the longest life expectancy of any generation yet and bankrupt the Social Security system.
I'm not saying smoking is not bad for you or that it increases the risks of a myriad of diseases but clearly the fear mongering of the social behavior engineering crew is very effective creating out whack perceptions. - elhaf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I came here to post "Sleeper" ftw, but I guess I lost. They made him eat steak (Atkins) and smoke (Parkinsons), so I think we're right on schedule. They also predicted teledildonics.
- kasama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've seen a documentary where a guy takes ecstasy to ease the shaking from Parkinson's.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1169980.stm - scorchedearth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It makes sense simply because nicotine stimulates the release of dopamine in the brain. Parkinson's destroys the cells that produce dopamine, leading to the symptoms of said disease.
The cons of smoking still outweigh the pros by a longshot though. - hellotyler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well I don't have parkinsons, but now I got cancer. Thanks doc.
- mactaggart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2old news...Nick Naylor actually testified to this (under oath, mind you) to Mr. Finistirre's committee in Congress a couple of years ago.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2damnit, reading article cut off by smoke break... be back in 15...
- Zackypooh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Then why are they coughing all the time?
- binorgog, on 08/07/2008, -2/+3And I just quit both those things!!! I swear I was feeling like Michael J Fox
- PsychoticClown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1willcode4beer & redeye:
So if there are scientific studies that encourage murder, we should publish those, right?
If there are scientific studies that encourage pedophilia, we should publish them, right?
If there are scientific studies that encourage torture, we should publish them, right?
If there are scientific studies that encourage molesting children, we should publish them, right?
Yeah, let's publish anything and everything for the layman, the man on the street. That's a good idea. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Birth is the leading cause of death. Marriage is the leading cause of divorce. Even chocolate is good for you now. Anyone remember Woody Allen's movie "Sleeper"?
- spliffy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1YAY!
- DryvBy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Caffeine is a contributer to PD. How is this even possible? Will smoking some day cure lung cancer?
- willcode4beer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"scientific studies that encourage..."
There is the problem.
Scientific studies do not *encourage* anything.
They simply present the information gained by the study.
Censorship for "the layman" is just elitism - buglord, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1didn't seem to help Michael J. Fox much...
- missswiss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The main character in the (amazing) film / play Melvin Goes to Dinner talks about this in the film version. I've always wondered if it was true. Fascin-ating!
imdb: melvin goes to dinner
http://imdb.com/title/tt0323633/ - bitbytebit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@spudnic
but you don't enjoy smoking - you may think you do, but its all brainwashing ..if you want to quit read allen carr's book 'the easyway to quit smoking'
Just a quick example since I know how ingrained this brainwashing can be.
What is the last thing someone up against the wall for a firing squad gets? .. this is in almost every depiction of this event, tv, movies, books ..its so ingrained that smoking must be a pleasure because its a last request.
The funny thing is its such an addictive thing that we will make up all kinds of things to justify it, .. think of this - a non-smoker NEVER has a desire to go smoke a cigarrete after eating, a non smoker NEVER wakes up and can't function without a cigarette .. even as a smoker you know logically that it is harmful to you, yet you still can justify it to yourself. The same arguments you make to justify your smoking could be used to justify heroin use ..yet you don't condone that do you?
I really hope anyone reading this who does want to quit goes and buys that book (Allen Carr's Easyway) you will be smoke free and really suprised at how easy it was ( I had tried to quit seriously 3 or 4 times in the last 20 years), this time did it with no withdrawl, no anger issues, nothing ..it was shocking. - thirtysixbelow, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3This works for anything that might cause you to die before you are 65+ when your chances of parkinsons starts to become large.
In other news... studies suggest that suicide may help to prevent parkinsons. - bitbytebit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Allen Carr's book the Easyway to quit smoking - quit 100% and it was easy ..no withdrawls at all, it was weird
- theblueprint, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4This is exactly why I make sure to get at least 12 servings of the Green Group (Mt.Dew & Newport) every day.
- crashflow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1in other news, high fat diet prevents aging and age-related conditions...
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