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- anagoge, on 07/05/2008, -4/+104Personally I prefer mine in the morning. By four I'm ready for a nap.
- t3hmyth, on 07/05/2008, -4/+99Isn't teaching about love and sex something that parents are supposed to do?
- reflex768, on 07/04/2008, -17/+95Seems a little old to me, I say we need to start at birth. Get a counselor in the the delivery room with charts and a lesson plan. I also recommend beginning driver's education at the same time. More needs to be done to combat the rising number of traffic accidents as early as possible.
- mtrip, on 07/05/2008, -1/+71Maybe wait until they get a grip on the whole 'alphabet' thing before we throw them this curveball.
- ShootTheCore, on 07/04/2008, -43/+103I know the submitter of this story's intention was probably to make us all feel "outraged at how disgusting this is!!" but really think this is a good idea. Why not be more open with children about the way the world works from an early age? They may not understand it fully but it will always be "there" in the back of their minds. Also teaching children that gay relationships are perfectly normal at this age would be excellent. Their must be so many children who grow up about the ages of 10 and 11 who feel they aren't "normal". This must have an adverse effect on you psychologically later in life...
- lucy22, on 07/04/2008, -6/+56 4 seems a bit young. Speech is almost entirely intelligible at 4, so I don't think they would understand.
- Neticule, on 07/05/2008, -1/+50I know this may sound crazy, but why not just educate them when they ask? If they begin asking questions at 4, go ahead and answer, maybe they wont ask until they are 8, or 10, the point is, they need to know that when they ask you something, your going to tell them what you know, and not beat around the bush for 5 years with stork-type lies.
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -3/+35Well, they're supposed to. Do they? Judging by nationwide STD rates, apparently not.
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -8/+35They take that opportunity to "just... be kids" and play doctor. Kids are curious and they already do lap this stuff up. You talk about sex as if the knowledge of it ruins this pure white sheet of innocence that surrounds and protects little children, but that's an awfully cynical outlook.
- Lasha, on 07/05/2008, -1/+27Come on, 4 is too young! This is the age where kids discover that they have a penis and girls don't.
- Cate320, on 07/05/2008, -1/+264 does seem a bit young. We had our first sex-ed class in school in 5th grade - so 10 or 11.
This was probably a bit late, since thinking back on it, I remember friends making sexual jokes around 8 or so. That would probably be a good age to start teaching it, and clear up some of the confusion kids may have, since they are being exposed to the subject already anyway. - inactive, on 07/05/2008, -5/+28They do happen and are generally accepted by the public, with the exception of a few haters who spend too much time thinking about gay people having sex.
- Rally603, on 07/05/2008, -1/+24Go back to YouTube.
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -1/+22Psh, even after I learned that girls have a vagina and vulva, I still had no idea what those were. That was something like second or third grade, I think.
- vawksel, on 07/05/2008, -5/+26Mothers often talk to their babies while they are still in the womb... I can hear it now:
(Patting and rubbing her tummy) "Now little Timmy, by law I have to tell you this. You need to know that the thing between your legs that is growing right now is not a toy, it is very ...."
You get the idea. - linagee, on 07/05/2008, -4/+24Age 4: "Don't let anyone near your danger zone!"
- mrsteveman1, on 07/05/2008, -5/+23Who the ***** are you to decide whats normal?
- johnnorton, on 07/05/2008, -5/+24Only if Ms. Choksondik is the instructor.
- CCUboogernjit, on 07/05/2008, -4/+22yes I guess so but American Idol Is on though!
- InfiniteNothing, on 07/05/2008, -0/+18Anyone who misreads the article that much must be projecting.
- yoda17, on 07/05/2008, -1/+19How about teaching math or reading?
- DrNil8tor, on 07/04/2008, -11/+27I sort of have to agree with ShootTheCore on this one. 4 does seem a little early for me though 6 or 8 seems more of an appropriate age if you ask me. I really do think we are slacking when it comes to educating our children in sex, the consequences and the possible diseases that come along with it. I was never taught the birds and bee's from my family and started having sex at a young age. I think that sex is something that is kept in the closet for til it is to late and it is slammed in your face when you hit high school.
- BladeNd64, on 07/05/2008, -0/+17I learned that girls had a few more differences than I originally thought later in my elementary education. I had no idea what they had. Or at least before I discovered the internet.
- Cate320, on 07/05/2008, -1/+17Our classes went more in depth from what I remember. We were split up into different classes for boys and girls - taught by same-sex teachers. I know we learned all about our menstrual cycles, puberty, male and female sex anatomy, but also about sex. I remember being shown how to put on a condom. And some girl asked "Why sometimes in the movies, a guy will put his penis between the woman's breasts?". Of course being 10 year olds, it was just funny and we all giggled, but now thinking back on it, I am kind of shocked that someone that young was watching something that graphic. I don't remember how the teacher answered THAT question though.
We were encouraged to submit anonymous questions too, but most of the girls seemed to have no problem asking them out loud, maybe because there were no boys around. - Rally603, on 07/05/2008, -4/+18Somehow I don't think starting sex ed. so early will change much as far as teenage sex goes.
Mostly because it will not stop teenage girls from having sex. They like it too much. A teenage girl's cherry is like a Pringles can. Once it pops the fun don't stop. They're not about to stop riding the sausage train because they learned about the 'emotional aspect of sex and relationships' when they were 4 years old. They won't even slow down. If I had a nickel for every time I heard some nasty adolescent tramp talking about how their boyfriend's mustache was "so tickley down there" I'd still be broke. It's kind of hard to hear them say anything at all when every orifice in their body is clogged.
If you've ever been to a public high school, you'll know what I'm talking about. - h4mx0r, on 07/05/2008, -1/+16Whether you think this is a good thing or bad thing, I still think they aren't really going to understand what you teach them (about sex) at age 4. I mean, they're barely able to comprehend what you're saying... Of course there are a few which might be able to understand but still... four? You might be wasting your breath. Maybe a little older?
- mtrip, on 07/05/2008, -0/+13Then they must be on digg ooooooh snap!
- innocentsinner, on 07/05/2008, -1/+13When I was one and a half, I created a vaccine for polio.
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -1/+13I remember watching "The Miracle of Life" - I think that's what it was called - in sixth grade. At that point, nobody wanted to say the "s-e-x" word because it was embarrassing, and the questions we anonymously posed to our teacher were things like "what is masturbation?" and "what's an orgasm?"
At that point, I really don't think that sex ed was encouraging us to do anything at all - like eir said, it was mostly "your bodies are changing" stuff. I must say though, watching that woman give birth at the end of "The Miracle of Life" was pretty off-putting for most of us in the audience. - Rally603, on 07/05/2008, -15/+27Because kids that age do not need that ***** hanging over their heads. They need an opportunity to just... be kids. You know, the innocent, blissfully ignorant kind we all love so much.
- eir574, on 07/05/2008, -1/+13My school started at fifth grade, but the fifth and sixth grade classes were pretty basic. It was more "your bodies are changing" than anything else. Though my school district did teach older kids about contraception, the first few years were abstinence only. The classes were also a time to get questions answered anonymously. At the end of each session (not that there were more than a few of them) everyone was given an index card on which we could write questions. Everyone had to write something down even if they didn't have questions, so it was truly anonymous.
- millerftw, on 07/05/2008, -0/+11One day my friend says to me "this girl told me sex is a penis going into a vagina", as a kid it sounds like an incredibly strange idea.
- Rally603, on 07/05/2008, -6/+17Playing doctor is a pretty innocent endeavor as it stands now. However, if they learn all about the birds and the bees before they can even tie their shoes, then it won't be the same.
- thecoolestguy, on 07/05/2008, -2/+13How bout letting each parent decide for themselves how to raise their child. The government isn't supposed to be big brother/the nanny, taking care of people.
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -5/+16Then homeschool. If you don't like the facts of life being taught to your child (and that's what they are, facts of life), then you'd better be prepared to keep your child in a nuclear bunker from the 1950's for the rest of his life. I pity the poor kid.
- Billistic, on 07/05/2008, -0/+11Just honestly answer kids questions, they won't get it anyway, then tell them not to worry about it but if someone touches their bathing suit area to tell you so you can get medieval on their asses.
- Zarokima, on 07/05/2008, -3/+13"Normal" it's not, "natural" it is, "abomination" it's not, "wrong" it's not. While of course the norm is heterosexuality, what with species propagation and all, *****- and bisexual behaviour has been documented in more than just humans. Other apes (especially bonobos) are dolphins are good examples, though my ex-girlfriend did have a gay Yorkie. If such behaviour was restricted to humans, you might actually have an argument, but since it isn't by far you don't. Your claim about it being amoral is also bunk, since morality is largely relative. If you don't like it, then don't do it and if it makes you feel better don't associate with people who do, but keep the ***** out of their business -- after all, nobody's telling you who you can or can't love. Actually, you're the reason we need to tell kids it's okay, because otherwise you ***** the gay ones up for life by instilling insecurity in them and hatred in the straight ones.
- Tenlow, on 07/05/2008, -4/+13I had a fairly large vocabulary by three and could read quite well by four. Maybe if parents speak to their kids they'd be able to understand.
- unknownsoldierX, on 07/05/2008, -0/+9[queue soundtrack to Top Gun]
- leontes, on 07/05/2008, -3/+12It's intriguing how perverted a religion based on tolerance can become. Not that I blame you personally, nor do I find your beliefs surprising, but I do find them fascinating. The key tenant of Christianity is acceptance, and yet you can in all seriousness rail against those that dare to try teach universal inclusiveness regarding those that just wish the freedom to love those that they love. Human brains are so easily corrupted.
- parax, on 07/05/2008, -3/+11This is a terrible idea! I want to increase life spans and quality of life at the other end. STIs and teenage pregnancy is nature's way of culling the herd, keeping the hormone driven individuals busy so they don't bog down the nerds and keep them from doing the important work they do. Advancing technology and understanding the universe. I'm with Greg Giraldo on this, we need single mothers saddled with children by the age of 16 to work in our Hooters and strip clubs. Life needs a policy that allows people to drop out early and suck up all the crap jobs.
- wacomwacoff, on 07/05/2008, -2/+10And you're just a troll.
- blanketfury, on 07/05/2008, -2/+10Except in Thailand
- Philbert, on 07/05/2008, -1/+9Agree, let's put an end to this stork business.
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -1/+9Sex ed != encouraging kids of have sex
- YukosEyes, on 07/05/2008, -1/+9Many toddlers learn to be ashamed of their sex organs, to do and not do certain things. Toddlers duplicate interactions in personal relationships that they see modeled by the adults around them, interactions that are not always respectful or equal. They start using words and making jokes around second and third grade, from my memory, even while they don't understand the meaning of what they are saying or context of it.
My opinion is that toddlers should not be made to be ashamed of their sex organs and that respectful, equal relationships should be modeled by the parents ideally, but also discussed at school long before the words and jokes start to appear. It needs to be discussed so that children don't think that every relationship is like their parent's relationship. My mom watched a very general video tape with me that was about males and females and how babies are born when I was in Kindergarten; after the one viewing, I still had access to it and watched it a couple of times after. I am very thankful for that and found that there was a sharp contrast between my understanding and that of my peers. I had no shame about sex and being a female until boys started making comments and using certain words. - Yeshuah, on 07/05/2008, -0/+8I find it funny that the 23 year old mom of two thinks that these sex ed classes are so outrageous. She's the mother of two children that have to be at least 4 years old, meaning she had a baby when she was 19 making it very possible she got pregnant when she was 18. Sounds like she needed those classes as well.
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -3/+10Children should at least know that SEX MAKES BABIES.
- YukosEyes, on 07/05/2008, -1/+8It is possible to end the shame around sex.
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -1/+8We got that question in my class too! My teacher used the Carol Burnett line: "It's like taking your lower lip and stretching it allllll the way over your head."
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