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- rpapi100, on 04/07/2009, -1/+40Onion video on schizophrenics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzoXQKumgCw
one of their best. - therightclique, on 04/07/2009, -1/+30That's a misunderstand of what schizophrenia even is. You're thinking of Multiple Personality Disorder.
- firewall1, on 04/07/2009, -0/+24So much to learn about how our brains are wired.
- XxbladesfirexX, on 04/07/2009, -0/+20The image on the right looks like the front of the mask to me...
- therightclique, on 04/07/2009, -2/+21Well? What's the answer? I looked at the picture and I know what I say, but how do I know if I'm schizo?
- yurishoujo, on 04/07/2009, -0/+17Glad to see there might finally be a more concrete way of diagnosing Schizophrenia. It seems too often that doctors will slap schizophrenia on a patient because they have no idea what else to call what's going on, and anti-psychotics on someone who shouldn't be having them ain't pretty.
- pardonmedoug, on 04/07/2009, -0/+17Nobody's giving you a choice.
- inactive, on 04/07/2009, -1/+18I think a more disease-appropriate comment would be "Those optical illusions never fooled me. The radio transmitter in my tooth always lets me know what the right answer is."
- hurrayforschool, on 04/07/2009, -0/+15Is the mask shown from the front or the back? Not being able to tell is driving me sane.
- spookyttws, on 04/07/2009, -2/+15In Disneyland's Haunted Mansion the same effect is used, but the end result is that the faces seem to be watching you. Whatever angle you look at the heads the eyes seem to follow you. It's really interesting how much trouble our brains have deciphering such a simple thing. Then again from an evolutionary stand point, there's nothing really in nature that would cause us to perfect that ability.
- netfool, on 04/07/2009, -0/+13So people who are often deemed "crazy" actually see some things as they actually are, unlike "normal" people who cannot tell the difference. Interesting.
- Frozo, on 04/07/2009, -1/+10How do you take a real photo (like of the woman in the video) and invert it? They are being shown 2D images in this test. I dont get it.
- bluehouse, on 04/07/2009, -0/+9schizophrenia going to be the new aspergers around here. You don't have schizophrenia just because you can just see an optical illusion. You don't have aspergers either. You are just an *****
- anexanhume, on 04/07/2009, -1/+9Interesting. I have a family history, so I have an objective test for myself. I had no idea visual tests could work for the disorder.
- replaysMike, on 04/07/2009, -1/+9this could be handy. I'm going to start bringing a schizo with me to the bar to give me fair warning if that chick at the end stool is sporting a penis.
- inactive, on 04/07/2009, -0/+8If you have to ask......
- elitebox, on 04/07/2009, -1/+9It seems to me that you can logically deduce whether the mask is inverted by the observation of certain details -- such as the slope of the nose, lack of certain facial highlights, overall flatness of the image, and awkwardness of the mouth. So, if you can logically deduce that the mask is inverted, does that mean you are Schizophrenic?
- Frozo, on 04/07/2009, -0/+7This is my take on it. In fact, in the example mask on the page, it is obviously inverted because you can see the edge of the mask all around the perimeter. Maybe schizophrenics are just smarter in a Rain Man sort of way.
- staffa, on 04/07/2009, -0/+7Watch the video, it shows another 'test' and gives the answer.
Happily, it appears im not schizophrenic!
The picture clearly looked as if it were the front, but apparently it always looks that way to normal people, regardless of whether or not it is the back. - RevChris2, on 04/07/2009, -1/+7But which one of him is thinking of multiple personality disorder?
- Jeremyz0r, on 04/07/2009, -1/+7RTFA - 99% Accurate.
- anexanhume, on 04/07/2009, -1/+7There are people for whom a breathalyzer test is ineffective. Does that mean we should stop using the equipment?
- Frozo, on 04/07/2009, -0/+5I both believe that and disagree.
- Cglass, on 04/07/2009, -3/+8It's a ***** dumb test because I guarantee there are those who do NOT suffer from schizophrenia who can tell the difference.
- Jupichan, on 04/07/2009, -0/+5The mask in the video was quite obviously inverted to me. heh
- inactive, on 04/07/2009, -0/+4Eh, problem is there might be other diseases that cause that effect. One of the tricks in diagnosing mental illness is that often several diseases create similar symptoms - for instance, autistic people have trouble picking up on sarcasm, but that's also a feature in several other mental illnesses, and so it can't be used for diagnosis.
- joot2112, on 04/07/2009, -0/+4If you can see it, are you supposed to call a doctor, or what? er... hypothetically, of course...............
- GregLoire, on 04/07/2009, -2/+6Apples and oranges. Aspergers is a spectrum disorder; schizophrenia is not. You either have schizophrenia or you don't, and your brain chemistry reflects this. With Aspergers, everyone has the symptoms to some degree, and it's just a matter of an arbitrary threshold in deciding who gets labeled with it.
- inigomntoya, on 04/07/2009, -0/+4But its still funny...
- williemain, on 04/07/2009, -0/+4I believe schizophrenia can lay dormant in someone if they are not overly stressed or traumatized.
- nurbsenvi, on 04/08/2009, -0/+3oh... ok.... *****.
- Schrodinger2, on 04/07/2009, -0/+3It's not called multiple personality disorder anymore. DSM IV calls what you're describing "dissociative identity disorder"
- staffa, on 04/07/2009, -1/+4Congrats, you're sane.
- jpop, on 04/07/2009, -0/+3I remember that the military used to use color blind people to see through camoflage back in the old days. I wonder if schizo people could be used the same way.
- inigomntoya, on 04/07/2009, -0/+3Only if the voices told you to do it.
- jasdf, on 04/07/2009, -0/+3Perception is reality.
- phauwn, on 04/08/2009, -0/+3Someone on the site posted this comment from the source article:
"We employed an event-related functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) design with three experimental conditions (3D normal faces, 3D depth-inverted faces, 2D faces). Under laboratory conditions, it is possible to create a strong impression of three-dimensionality by presenting each eye with a separate image of the same face, with each photo taken at slightly different angle towards the displayed face (Wheatstone, 1838). To produce this effect, the following technique was used: stimulus pairs were projected via a NEC 2001 colour projector onto the window that separates the MRI chamber from the operating room. On this window white paper was placed that afforded a high resolution display for the stimulus pairs (see Fig. 1A). Inside the MRI chamber a custom-made prism stereoscope was placed on the head coil that ensured that the left picture was projected to the left eye of the subject and the right picture to the right eye. The result was that the subject perceived a single 3D face in the middle of the display. Pseudoscopy, or binocular depth inversion, was induced by exchanging the pictures from the left and right sides (see Fig. 1B). 2D faces were presented by showing the same picture to both eyes."
Sounds like the test was done with a stereoscopic image, so it's impossible to tell if we passed or failed on screen.
I can't imagine not being able to recognize depth in a 3d image, but that makes the finding more interesting. - ichbinladen, on 04/07/2009, -0/+2There's a huge hollow mask of George Washington at Mount Vernon. It blew my mind trying to figure it out, so I guess I'm not Schizo... yet.
- inactive, on 04/07/2009, -0/+2Votic, he wasn't saying it was offensive, he's saying that that's the wrong disease entirely.
- inactive, on 04/07/2009, -3/+5Nope, that's multiple personality disorder... different disease.
- darrellcskinner, on 04/07/2009, -0/+2well that was assuring
- inigomntoya, on 04/07/2009, -0/+2Wow. Just... Wow.
- kronborg, on 04/08/2009, -0/+2Reminds me of this amazing illusion: http://www.grand-illusions.com/opticalillusions/dr ...
You can print a PDF and build it yourself. The effect is truly creepy. - inigomntoya, on 04/07/2009, -0/+2Yeah. So, lets say I have a, uh, *co-worker* who can tell the difference. Should I tell him to see someone? Or should I just wait for the voices to tell him to go on his own?
- furatail, on 04/08/2009, -0/+2It's a label and everyone wants one. First it was ADD/ADHD, then aspergers, and now Schizophrenia.
- consciouseffect, on 04/08/2009, -0/+2this test would seem to indicate that schizos may just be more adapt at seeing through illusions, which would lead one who has been fooled by illusion for 40 years of their life to assume they are the sane one and the schizos are not just because one group outnumbers the other doesn't mean either viewpoint should be discredited as "insane"
- ericthesalmon, on 04/08/2009, -1/+2The scare quotes start to look silly when you're talking about people worried about the aliens watching them through the lightbulbs.
- Astark, on 04/07/2009, -0/+1...so they've got that going for them, which is nice.
- redxii, on 04/07/2009, -0/+1You just have a thing for Ichigo.
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