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- Ymeg, on 04/24/2009, -3/+22What the hell is up with this submission?
- inactive, on 04/24/2009, -6/+19Snake Oil 2009. Come and get it! Its been proven that cooked foods increases vitamin A and B in vegetables, but lowers the much more available vitamin C. There has been no noticeable depreciation of minerals from cooked foods. Telling people that all cooked food will kill you is wrong. They also fail to mention that the average lifespan of a vegetarian is almost the same as a smoker. 7 years less than average mainly do to the lack of protein soy and legumes dont have the right kind of protein. Like everything all things in moderation, even *****.
- wigren, on 04/24/2009, -4/+13So... much... spam..... ahhhhh.....
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The newcomers sure do like this article. - Finsternis, on 04/24/2009, -0/+7"Eating smart and healthy" is NOT the same as being vegan. Meat is not poison, processed food is.
- enantiodromia, on 04/24/2009, -1/+8"we" don't all "need" to go vegan.
i am thrilled it works for you, but it doesn't for the vast majority of people. - enantiodromia, on 04/24/2009, -3/+9seems to be on tpb... just sayin.
- Finsternis, on 04/24/2009, -1/+7I wouldn't call it a "cure". If they go off the diet, they'll be right back where they were. The film seems to make a claim that has only been verified with six people, so it should be taken with a big grain of salt. But there's definitely no doubt that the ***** most people eat is horribly bad for you, so the *overall* message is still correct - eating organic, healthy, whole foods instead of preprocessed chemical-laden garbage is GOOD FOR YOU. Kind of a no-brainer. If you constantly eat whatever the food industry wants you to eat, you really only have yourself to blame.
Also, why is it that every positive comment, no matter what it is, has been dugg down by (at the moment) almost *exactly* -6 or -7? And the one negative comment has been dugg up by the same amount? Is the Big Pharma Bury Brigade at work? - merm, on 04/24/2009, -0/+6It does almost look to me like someone paid to get this link posted up on here. Maybe the creators of the DVD fell for some kind of spam-marketing thing or something. It's unfortunate because I fear that a good message that actually resonates with a lot of diggers is lost here. The simple truth is that as many many digg articles point out, morbid-obesity, Type 2 diabetes, heart disease and many many other health problems have skyrocketed in the last few decades. 99.99% of all this is not only preventable, but treatable (after you've done the damage) by eating healthier, unprocessed food. I know this works because I have a family member who was on multiple medications, obese, and miserable and switched to a raw vegan diet and has gone off her medications - and has been off for 6 years - her doctor was dumbfounded. The bottom line is that it is a highly effective treatment for many people who destroy their body by eating *****, but it also is an effective preventative measure for people who haven't yet been diagnosed. I'm not a raw vegan, but I know there's a good message that's getting buried unfortunately because of the messenger and method and not the content itself.
- GhostLLP, on 04/24/2009, -0/+5Snake Oil 2009? Raw food diets are hardly some new marketing scam. The diet has actually been around since the beginning of the human race, as raw foods were our specie's original diet. We are the only animal on this planet to chemically alter our food the way we have come to do. It is unnatural.
And Raw foodism is not the same as vegetarianism. Nor does soy play a significant role in a raw food diet, if any. The highest concentrated protein food in the world is actually spirulina, a type of dried algae. Also nuts and seeds like flax, certain berries like goji berries. These are much better sources of protein than cooked meat, which have degraded amino acids due to the heat. - TetchyTony, on 04/24/2009, -3/+7My brother tried this nuttery and it almost killed him. Make sure you have someone with you 24/24, and don't quit the blood sugar tests until you see real evidence you're winning (unlikely). Insulin is no sin, if you happen to need it.
- supersonicjim, on 04/24/2009, -1/+5Buy our DVDs!
Sounds like a scam to me. - Casserole69, on 04/24/2009, -1/+4Its because they are spammers pushing a false "cure". Look at when they all joined digg.
Eating healthy is good, but the science they use to say it cure diabetes is BS. - niczar, on 04/24/2009, -1/+4This is a dangerously wrong title. They're not talking about insulin-dependant diabetes, the type where you have to inject yourself with insulin. Buried.
- genconkeeper, on 04/24/2009, -0/+3Agreed I am a type 2, I am faithful to my meds. I have gotten my A1C scores way way down. Lost alot weight. My doctor is talking about dialing down my meds. If I lose another 20 pound I could be off my diabetes meds completely. Cured? Hell no, but I'll still watch my blood surgar like a hawk. Eat heathly, try to excerise, and maintain a positive outlook on life. Now some raw foods might be nice in a salad, but not as a lifestyle.
- ViscidGobs, on 04/24/2009, -1/+4The story seems a little over simplified and not very specific in terms of what type of diabetes is being treated. This type of diet would be beneficial to any diabetic, type 1 or type 2. The problem for type 1 are blood sugar lows. Thirty days seems overly optimistic. This sort of diet would need to be phased in over a longer period of time. The colonics?
- merm, on 04/24/2009, -0/+3Actually the film only claims that 3 people were "cured" (I agree, maybe too strong a word) from Type 1 diabetes. However, the film does claim that Type 2 diabetes can be "cured" by following their routine. They also clearly state that this should not be tried on your own.
I'm not a spammer, but I did see the film when it came out. - FlyinRyan89, on 04/24/2009, -4/+6and skimming an article is not the same as when you read/watch the whole thing and actually understand it.
- genconkeeper, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2Which Type 1 or 2?
- agentkimchee, on 04/25/2009, -0/+2Agreed merm,
I also have a friend who was allergic to dozens of foods and airborne pollens until he switched to a Raw diet. Now he's allergic to nothing.
I hope stories like these can make it to the front page without massive campaigns recruiting non-diggers to digg. - genconkeeper, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2Well if they are talking about type 2 then say type 2. Also alot of type two's do take insulin. If it had been approached as another way of working toward lowering body weight and weening folks off of meds there approach might not have gotten this reaction.
- misock, on 04/24/2009, -2/+4This is not accurate information. Since before the 1970 the British Medical Association had recommended 25 grams of protien per day versus the American Medical Association's recommendation of 60 grams per day. Too much protien shortens life not lengthens it. Processing more protien than the body needs is hard on the kidneys. And the fact is that vegetarians life an average of 6 years longer that non vegetarians. And not exercising has a similar negative affect on the body as smoking.
- GhostLLP, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2If it interests you, I would check out "Absorption and Utilization of Amino Acids" By Mendel Friedman. At least some of it should probably be available on Google Books.
- twinem, on 04/24/2009, -2/+4I can't believe the negativity on here, I followed Gabriel Cousens and David Wolfes work and managed to get myself better from a long debilitating illness that left me bed ridden for 5 years I am now able to enjoy my life to the full with absolutely no issues at all... 100% healthy.
I think all these people have vested interests for if the truth comes out the medical profession will collapse. I have seen these natural methods work for so many people over the years I have come into contact with through my own journey.
I guess we will see how quickly this gets buried by the big pharma parade. - genconkeeper, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2The only David Wolf I know is an Astronaut, ths David Wolfe from the story above was also known as Avocado from "Mad mad mad House" a few years ago. If that gives a better reference.
- LukeBeaumont, on 04/24/2009, -6/+8Lots of spam comments...
- genconkeeper, on 04/24/2009, -1/+3Before the creation of Insulin your only chance of survival was a starvation diet. No sugar, no carbs, high fat and protein, and even with this diet they would waste away and die. So for a Type I this is sheer insanity. Now with type 2 this diet along with excise might bring down blood sugar levels to a normal level, thus a possible use of the "C" word. But that is now being hotley debated in the communty. Just what is a "Cure"? I want it see Penn and Teller go after this. This is the type of topic that is grist for there mill.
- joeconway, on 04/24/2009, -4/+5This is so stupid, it actually really annoyed me to read it. Buried. Hopefully nobody will actually believe this is a cure. It's a well known fact that for a while after diagnosis you can utilize what little function your pancreas has left and with ultra strict diet and lifestyle control you can almost entirely ween yourself off insulin. But it's important to remember that this is only a honeymoon period and if you can do it for longer than a year you are a very lucky person indeed. The massive alteration to your lifestyle that it would require would make it really not worth it...
If you actually want to know about cures for type 1 then look into islet cell transplants. It's proven to work and is being implemented in the UK now. - GretaEllen, on 04/24/2009, -1/+2I have been watching the work of Gabriel Cousins and David Wolfe for some time now. Although I am not totally raw I am eating a vegetarian diet and moving to more vegan and raw. I have seen a total reversal of my diabetes through diet and some supplements, eating mostly vegetables and green juices and smoothies. So many people even tell me how healthy I look! Off to a raw food weekend seminar with David Wolfe!
- buckrogers1965, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1I think that a good diet with healthy foods and exercise is important for everyone. Many conditions will "cure" themselves if you get yourself healthy and strong.
Of course this won't cure type 1 diabetes, that is caused by your body attacking itself and once the damage is done it never fixes itself.
Raw foods is getting a lot of hype lately, and there are probably some benefits to including some raw foods in your diet and cutting back on the meat.
But there is no need to be fanatical and only eat raw foods. - Kahnza, on 04/24/2009, -8/+9Changing your diet is not the same as a cure you retards. You still can't go out and have a giant bowl of fudge covered ice cream and survive.
- cupholder, on 04/24/2009, -2/+3Well, it's just an obvious fact of medicine really. If you've been eating too much Sucrose or other complex carbs, your body has a harder and harder time converting it to glucose. As long as your body can still naturally do it, changing your eating habits should be able to reverse the tolerance.
Once you're on insulin, sorry, but you are pretty much screwed for life on that one. - buckrogers1965, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1After a transplant you are on anti rejection drugs for life.
Since type 1 is caused by your body rejecting your own insulin producing regions in your pancreas, couldn't they just give the anti rejection drugs to protect your own pancreas?
That way no transplant needed? - Daemion, on 04/24/2009, -3/+4We already know that diet can help control diabetes and significant weight loss can "cure" type 2 diabetes in the sense that some people stop requiring medication to control their blood glucose. Of course, you can get the same effect from gastric bypass surgery. The key is losing weight, and a vegan diet may work well for people who want to go that route. However, there's nothing about raw food specifically that would cause this effect, and that nonsense about colonics is unmitigated *****.
- WoollyMittens, on 04/24/2009, -1/+2Not all proteins contain the same amino acids in the same ratio. You don't take that into account in your statement, so it is badly flawed.
- TheMidnighter, on 04/24/2009, -1/+2Why are people voting down on these comments?
- agentkimchee, on 04/25/2009, -0/+1If people could just post sources when they make claims, I think things would go a lot smoother here.
- agentkimchee, on 04/25/2009, -0/+1Agreed... what's going on here?
- agentkimchee, on 04/25/2009, -0/+1If it works, how is it a false cure?
- Casserole69, on 04/24/2009, -1/+2The majority of the medical profession would actually back this work up, IF it were true, because most of the medical community want wats best for the health of the majority.
There is too much BS in this article. The only vested interests are from the publishers of this BS.
I looked up Gabriel Cousens and David Wolfes work and only found pseudo science BS, and no actuall scientific proof, just half baked ideas from old hippy stoners.
Good for you if your unspecified "long debilitating illness" was cured, but that does not mean it will cure diabetes - Jimbeu, on 04/26/2009, -0/+1Funny how when you give actual scientific facts the spammers want to bury you because it disproves their crap that they are selling.
- Frostek, on 04/24/2009, -2/+3I've blocked the bloody lot of them. Damn spammers!
- genconkeeper, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1There is a cure for type 1 it's called a transplant, my brother had one it worked. I know that they have been working on a cure for type 1 or years and the medical community has successfull with regular transplants, and the whole stem cell research line is very promising for Type 1 and type 2. But to say that he was told his entire life there was no cure, *****, what a defeatist. What's interesting is that they did a study with type 1's a few years back that set Medical Science on its ear. They put about 1000 type 1's on hyper intensive therapy. They monitored what they ate, how much they excerised, and adjusted their insulin daily to meet this. They found that, and they ended the study early because of the blockbuster results, that the patients chances of kidney, heart, lung, stroke, and other problems when to practically zero. Which meant you didn't have heart & kidney problems and a touch of sugar, it was the diabetes that caused all of these other problems. Making type 2 diabetes the leading cause of death in America. Think about it, it was just a few years ago type 2 popped up on the radar, well it was because of that study
- Martinho23, on 04/24/2009, -1/+1It's amazing!!! Connie tells us about her granddaughter who is off insulin thanks to her very strict diet, and joeconway calls her an idiot?!!! And she has all those negative diggs? What's wrong with you people?!! Are you on the payroll of the companies manufacturing drugs? I'm astonished!!
Thank you Connie, for sharing your story. I was inspired by it!! - agentkimchee, on 04/26/2009, -1/+1Perhaps you misunderstood, Jimbeu. I am in no way associated with this organization (other than the fact that I purchased the DVD, watched it, and liked it); I just got the e-mail and figured I would post in on here for others to read.
I agree, the fake comments are a disappointment, and someone obviously made a mistake in encouraging others to do this.
As for the science, I requested links because people are saying that there is science that backs up their claims that this is BS. If you know of an experiment that disproves the idea that eating a raw diet can help reverse diabetes, then please post it here -- I would love to see it.
Personally, I am not as interested in the science as I am in the fact that it works. It worked for a friend of mine, and it worked for several people featured in the documentary. If there are counter-stories -- people who tried the diet and it had no effect or a negative effect -- then I would love to hear those stories as well. - indigotap, on 04/24/2009, -1/+1Why are newcomers thougth of as spammers? I'm new to digg but I don't consider myself a spammer. I had never heard of digg before but there's a first time for everything ;-)
I had a good time reading people's ideas and opinions. - Jimbeu, on 04/26/2009, -1/+1Also, I noticed that you've told people to post links to actual science that disproves it. You are the one selling so its up to you to post proper links to prove it. Not just the sales crap
- asteriski, on 04/25/2009, -1/+1Read "The China Study" a comprehensive scientific survey of the dietary habits of an entire country which is still going on which correlates diet (animal protein) to diabetes and other diseases. The cure - green plants, fruits and grains.
- Martinho23, on 04/24/2009, -0/+0All those negative diggs.....does that mean people disagree that food is important to us? Do you people really believe we should all be eating lots of processed foods and no fruits or vegetables?!!!!!!!
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