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- backfire103, on 11/17/2009, -2/+27According to digg AIDS an Cancer have been solved multiple times already.
- DaDrake, on 11/17/2009, -1/+14I think you have no medical/biochemical background, but also you like to pick vague time frames out of your ass in an effort to appear informed.
- bizzywho, on 11/17/2009, -1/+9Just grind up a bunch of money and inject it into people's veins.
- Dantehman17, on 11/17/2009, -1/+6I think we should raise awareness about AIDS prevention rather than vaccinations (not saying vaccines wouldn't benefit)
Keep your AIDS infected ***** out of people (vice versa) (or don't have sex at all if you know you've been exposed to AIDS or wear a condom)
Don't share needles (or just don't do drugs at all)
If your an emergency medical professional like myself, wear your gloves (like your supposed to) so you don't stick yourself on accident. - N3XUS, on 11/17/2009, -0/+5Zzzzz.... Not only is this article old, but it's pretty misleading. HIV is effectively incurable for the same reason pesticides don't kill all our pests every year. They just get resistant and it's a vicious cycle of resistance. We need to find a "killer point" in the infection process and truly understand what's going on and how we can effectively kill the process without killing the person. The vaccine is statistically insignificant in preventing HIV. For those that read the Nature criticisms, it's pretty apparent that this still has some ways to go before actually being used as an effective means to kill HIV.
Also, to those who think people will eventually develop a "resistance" too it, go bugger off. There are a relative handful of people who are actually immune to it from northern Europe and since HIV doesn't kill people immediately (or within a year even) without treatment, there won't be any major bottle-necking of the population.
It's an interesting medical problem, but ultimately, it causes fewer deaths than cigarettes or cardiac events, so it's not the biggest global health initiative that needs to be attacked. I'm sure that if you cleaned up / better funded 3rd world hospitals by making them more sterile, a lot of the problems could be averted with unintended transmission. - energyx, on 11/17/2009, -1/+5easy fix: just watch ur cornhole, bud
- nawoa, on 11/17/2009, -1/+5there's.
- nawoa, on 11/17/2009, -0/+4I think he's just making light of that fact that Digg is full of hyperbole about these kinds of things - people making announcements about their great progress, not mentioning that the least severe side effect is brain cancer, that kind of thing.
- ugetab, on 11/17/2009, -0/+2Says all I'd usually need to say about it in the Digg discription:
"The long search for an AIDS vaccine has produced countless false starts and repeated failed trials"
Still, it took more than 1 try to create a viable Light Bulb, and that's been quite useful, despite the supposed astronomical number of tries Edison took to find something that 'kind of' worked by today's standards. - rygoke, on 11/17/2009, -0/+2How do they test the AIDS Vaccine? Do they encourage someone with AIDS to have sex with someone who does not have it?
- realeskimopimp, on 11/17/2009, -0/+2Brilliant!
- Rogor, on 11/17/2009, -0/+2Was talking to a doctor a little while ago who brought up the general perception that AIDS was semi curable or not as serious as it used to be due to articles like this one, his words "the vast majority of people getting AIDS die slow and horrible deaths in our hospital yet the newly diagnosed people think were going to give them pills to solve it"
The other aspect of this conversation was the vast majority of people getting HIV and AIDS are getting it from extremely irresponsible risky behavior, the poor blood transfusion child victim hasnt been a reality since the 80's. - bizzywho, on 11/17/2009, -0/+2Eric Cartman wouldn't like you saying that.
- ShellShock11, on 11/17/2009, -0/+1I heard Dr. David Ho speak on the topic, and that was where I based this off of.
- ugetab, on 11/18/2009, -0/+1I never knew about that. That bulb has had a longer life than I expect to.
I guess I had simply expected that 100+ years of 'progress' involved making better products, not worse ones. At least it helps me understand why people are resistant to 'improving' 10,000 year old DNA designs with modern technology. We'd retroactively end up with a fatal disease before the equipment ever got to the laboratories. - Paranor01, on 11/17/2009, -0/+1I dunno, religion has been making us *afraid of sex* for much longer than AIDS has, and have done more damage that way than AIDS.
I think we will eventually create a general immunity to it like the flu. Yes the flu kills. But not with the mortality rate of AIDS does. When flu started though, it was most likely a much similar situation as it is with AIDS. Take the diseases the Europeans brought over that killed a lot of the natives in the America's. Didn't kill as many Europeans because of their general immunity. - Paranor01, on 11/17/2009, -0/+1odd, Edison's filament seems to have worked well enough for a light bulb to be still going after 100 years at a fire station: http://www.centennialbulb.org/
- niselat, on 11/17/2009, -0/+1Agreed. It's like pouring money into figuring out how to protect drunk drivers instead of improving child safety seats
- realeskimopimp, on 11/17/2009, -1/+2AIDS is not funny man.
- Barackalypse, on 11/17/2009, -0/+1Its like revenge of the STD's on the Digg front page today. First chlamydia, now AIDS.
- DaDrake, on 11/17/2009, -1/+2Let me get this straight. Because people's actions are responsible for the disease, we shouldn't try to cure it? To push your logic further, HIV is merely a consequence of 'immoral' behavior. Thus, the 'moral' thing to do is to ignore this disease, which is killing tens of millions of people and growing to epidemic proportions (including in the USA).
- fragMasterFlash, on 11/17/2009, -0/+1Chronic diseases never seem to be cured while there is still money to be made in treating them. How much money do you think Magic Johnson has spent on AZT over the past 15 years?
- Mangeof, on 11/17/2009, -0/+13) Actually getting stabbed by a needle that is infected with AIDS gives you a 1 in 330 chance of getting infected.
Source: http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/07/arm ... - nawoa, on 11/17/2009, -0/+1Looking at the broader problem, suppose you vaccinated against AIDS or even cured it altogether, now instead of a disease pandemic won't there just be an even more severe shortage of food? AIDS is horrible but it's just a symptom of a larger problem: lack of adequate food, housing, education, and other social problems.
- binhphan, on 11/17/2009, -0/+1I concur. At this rate, we might have medical breakthroughs in AIDs vaccination in a few years time but it may be impacted due to global warming.
- 14sierra, on 11/17/2009, -0/+1I'd be worried that a vaccine may do more harm than good. A vaccine likely wouldn't protect against all strains of HIV and the HIV virus is highly prone to mutation, meaning resistant strains are nearly inevitable. But if people get this vaccine and go back to risky sexual practices thinking they are safe from HIV, AIDS may become even more wide spread than it is now.
- Paranor01, on 11/18/2009, -0/+1well, remember 'new' isn't always better.
technology can actually be a hindrance in some aspects, to some areas - ousthouse, on 11/17/2009, -2/+3Wasn't there an article on Digg a few days ago getting mad because the AIDS vaccine wasn't the innovation of the year?
- Paranor01, on 11/17/2009, -1/+1nawoa: that's your opinion. and it seems by your -diggs, the idiot mantle is yours
- KevinRowz, on 11/17/2009, -2/+2I got the perfect campaign for this.
"Stay Positive." - Adam420, on 11/17/2009, -4/+4No, this doesn't give any hope, the tests they did do not prove anything. Tell us when theirs actually a cure.
- vaderson, on 11/17/2009, -0/+0There are probably plenty of diseases which are curable (and a cure has even possibly been discovered), but there's not as much money in that.
- Rogor, on 11/17/2009, -1/+1I agree, now Americas economy has gone down the toilet who else is going to dump billions into research for unprofitable illnesses? China? Especially now India etc have been allowed to counterfeit and export any HIV drugs they want prepare for global HIV research to go way down.
- DaDrake, on 11/17/2009, -1/+1Easier said then done.
1) Many people walk around this nation totally unaware they have HIV. You want to know what a HIV positive patient looks like... look in the mirror. By the time they have AIDS, chances are they had other sexual encounters.
2) If addicts cared about their health, they wouldn't be abusing drugs.
3) Gloves aren't going to prevent a sharp needle from breaking the skin. They are made out of latex... not steel. - Mangeof, on 11/17/2009, -1/+1Religion promoted fertility, whereas this virus makes us fear unprotected sex, a necessity to reproduce.
- quickgold192, on 11/17/2009, -4/+3Really? Care to reveal your sources? Don't forget about Africa where they, too, have a cure for AIDS: Having sex with virgins.
But anyways, the real reason I wanted to comment is this: Organisms need to reproduce to continue. Sex is the very core of who we are as living things. To have a disease that makes us *afraid of sex* is to strike at the very core of who we are. - Bloodwine, on 11/17/2009, -3/+2No, I am simply saying that HIV/AIDS is given a bit too much attention vs. other diseases.
- jaytek13, on 11/17/2009, -3/+1That's exactly right... it's really sad the religion has brought about this feeling in people like Bloodywine that somehow having sex should equal a death sentence and those people deserve it. Just another fine example of Christianity and it's virtues.
- nawoa, on 11/17/2009, -3/+1Yes, yes, we get it: Religion is the cause of all problems. You can stop repeating things that make you sound like an idiot now.
- sals-a, on 11/17/2009, -4/+1Really? If you could link to these "solutions" that would be fantastic, I'm sure a great many people would hail you as a saviour.
What I have seen, is a great many interesting trials and possible cures/remedies/vaccinations in various stages of testing and research going on all around the world. Things that are incredibly interesting to read about on Digg and indicate a great level of work and understanding being put in by some fantastic doctors and researchers. - ShellShock11, on 11/17/2009, -7/+2I think an AIDS vaccine is certainly possible, but I also think its going to be at least 15-20 years before we see one.
- godwarrior33702, on 11/17/2009, -7/+2STOP blaming AIDs on Afrika you racist fools.
- Bloodwine, on 11/17/2009, -10/+4Unlike cancer, you kinda have to go out of your way to get HIV/AIDS.
There are those unfortunates who get the rawl deal, like rape victims, those born to mothers with HIV, and naive people with unfaithful mates. However, those people do not even come close to making up the majority of people with AIDS.
I just feel like way too much emphasis and effort has been put into solving HIV/AIDS vs. other diseases and conditions that are indiscriminate. - HotLeper, on 11/17/2009, -8/+1Who dies of AIDS anymore? It's just not as popular as it used to be. It's all about cancer now.
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