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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+39Water is great. Works for weight loss too, just replace all soda with water and you'll be losing in no time.
- Legopirate, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20he was talking about stiff muscle pain... not damaged nerves you ***** retard. go die in rl.
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Anecdotal evidence is so much more convincing than double-blind studies by medical researchers.
- fortressgame, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Prevent Death By Eating Food!
- Tallon29, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Don't drink too much! http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/13/water.intox.ap/index.html?
- ArizonaKid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12It's called Hyponatremia. I was in the Marines, and this was a constant worry along with dehydration. Because we were sweating so much, and had no choice but to intake water, we had to drink saline water sometimes. Saline water tastes like complete *****, but ensuring we did not flush our systems out and go into shock was very important.
Good article from Rice http://www.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/salt.html
As long as you don't go overboard you should not have an issue. Ensuring that there is enough salt in your diet will help hold in the vital nutrients as well. - catalysis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Are you the guy that brings scrabble to a kegger?
- d0odx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Water is the miracle cure all... it really worked for me yesterday when i was hungover and hoping for death.
- an0nymous, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Citation?
- imonsei, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8liar. My grandparents all ate food and now they're dead!!
- VRFour, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Would you morons please stop telling us how drinking too much water can kill you? We're all digg users and we've all read the article about the woman dying from holding her urine.
As long as you're not completely sedentary and urinate when you need to, drinking a lot of water is good for you. I drink at least a gallon of water a day and I'm healthy as a- arrggggghhh... - nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9yeah. And if you have good posture while pissing, you'll have less back pain. duh
- WiBu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9"i am sorry what is the title "relieve back pain by drinking back pain " not relieve stiff muscle pain by drinking more water douce."
That made no sense at all, I sure hope your first language isn't English.
"And if this true why are there other stories of how to much water can kill you??"
Because too much of anything can kill you. You need a certain amount of water to function otherwise you would dehydrate which is probably the reason the person had back ache. - MonkeyMCSE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@arizonakid
We need to find them a link to that lovely poster during bootcamp with the color of your urine would be depending on how much water intake you had. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Actually drinking alcohol works just fine for me, thank you. And it not only alleviates back pain!
- nopointinnames, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Are you stupid? Water is the best thing for your kidneys, it cleanses them.
- Canthros, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"What is that?"
"He must have died while typing it."
"Oh come on!"
"Well, that's what it says."
"Look, if he was dying, he wouldn't have bothered to type 'Aaaauuuggghhhh'. He'd just say it."
"Maybe he was dictating it." - Hickeroar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Hence the fact that he pointed out that it was for MUSCLES and not DISCS.....
- ArizonaKid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I feel better every time I am hydrated. Plus drinking water flushes bacteria in your mouth and can help marginalize bad breath. For me, food tends to taste better when I have a clean palette.
As far as Diet Soda, I have read a couple of articles that suggest Diet Soda can increase the overall appetite, leading to increased calorie intake overall. - drBandage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"when you don’t drink enough water, your body isn’t ‘lubed up’ enough and your muscles shrink, which causes joints to rub together more"
OKAY. Where to begin with this. This such a crock of pseudo pscience psh*tt. Pull each part of the assertation apart, and physically and physiologically it makes zero sense. It is the kind of nonsensical, but "simple" magical thinking that is often used to explain things that are far more complex than you're recognizing.
Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler. Einstein you ain't.
If you cannot discern science from pseudo pscience, then psycho babble your way to bliss.
Not to say water is not our friend, indeed it obviously is far more than that. Sine qua non. But, let's not get carried away with our infatuation with it. Critical thinking is required. End rant. (for now) - ArizonaKid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@MonkeyMCSE. Ha Ha That chart stuck in my head. Every time I piss I can't help but consider the color of my urine.
I found a comparable chart, which once again is from Rice. I did not go to Rice, but rather ASU. Seems Rice has some good content on the web (note: link is PDF)
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.owlnet.rice.edu%2F~heal103%2Fdocs%2FAm%2520I%2520Hydrated%2520-%2520Urine%2520Color%2520Chart.pdf&ei=0-SrRfKkCJ36wQLC1LUh&usg=__KPFz7KPKm_1AuQObFSHFcYnz9U8=&sig2=2O0fbCOlGILP4EhHr9A61g - Xanin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4i dont think the article suggested all pain was caused by lack of water...just in this case. perhaps go to a doctor to get your pain sorted out rather than complaining that one internet article doesn't fit your description?
- kelbear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Sugar is already a carb.
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I gained about 50 pounds in 2 years from drinking 3 cans of Doctor Pepper a day(I was seriously underweight before). Now I dont drink any soda and maintain a healthy 150 pounds. I never actually lost weight after I stopped drinking soda, but If I had continued I would probably be over 200 pounds by now.
- appetite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4water is my first go to remedy every time something bothers me--back ache, headache, exhaustion, queasiness. that alone does the trick about 75% of the time. most people are like me and only drink diuretics during the day (coffee, caffeinated soda, alcohol) and end up feeling the effects of dehydration.
- kenwestin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I started eating food and the pains in my stomach went away. It's a miracle.
- chatwithaninja, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8yeah, but wasn't that water intoxication death caused by holding her pee for too long?
Not that water intoxication doesn't exist - it does. Just clarifying that story. - spargett, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Water cured my cancer AND herpes.
- HeatVision, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Don't forget caffeinated beverages dehydrate you, so you'll need to add a glass of water to compensate for each glass of cola/coffee.
- shaka999, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This one has been debunked time after time after time
http://www.ific.org/foodinsight/2002/ja/caffdehydnbfi402.cfm - Xanin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4no...8 glasses a day is good for you. if you are thirsty it means you are already dehydrated. you should be drinking enough so that you dont get thirsty. use common sense though, dont drink 10 litres at once or anything
- realchris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'm glad he feels better but he should really see a doctor (not a chiropractor). It could just be a placebo effect happening.
- moracity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Apparently, the sky is blue.
- Xanin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3indeed, even for regular headaches it works like a charm. a few years ago i used to get constant headaches, now i drink around 2 litres a day and get no headaches. even my migraines are better
- kelbear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Those 8 glasses of water can come from food too. And you get a lot of water out of food. Really, in practice, most people just need maybe 2 glasses to get through their day comfortably.
If you're thirsty drink. If you're not thirsty, you can still drink. If you don't want to drink, then don't.
If the human body couldn't even figure out something so basic as "how to keep hydrated" we'd have gone extinct before we even evolved into humans. That's as basic as, if you're hungry, eat. Need air? Breathe. - HellifIno, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Followup:
http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/2007/01/mom_dies_in_wat.html
Yeah. Sucks, but still. Duh? - drBandage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2 Heard of synovial fluid? Guess whats a major component of that? You guessed it right. Fluids, which in fact also means water.
Whoa! Slow down, Einstein, you're moving way too fast for me!
And all this time I thought synovial fluid was a plasma dialysate modified by constituents secreted by the joint tissues. Of course, we both knew that the major difference between synovial fluid and other body fluids derived from plasma is the high content of hyaluronic acid, and that fibroblasts beneath the synovial membrane intima and synovial membrane-lining cells produce this mucopolysaccharide constituent. You of course were well aware that hyaluronic acid is a nonsulfated polysaccharide composed of equimolar quantities of D-glucuronic acid and N-acetyl-D-glucosamine residues.
I'm preaching to the choir when I point out that the normal viscosity of synovial fluid is due to the hyaluronic acid and that the amount of water in a joint depends on passive equilibration of plasma dialysate with vascular and lymphatic compartments, as for all connective tissue fluid. The half life of hyaluronan in the cavity is about 24 hours, and that it seeps out by a process of "reptate diffusion" - a sort of molecular snaking through the tissue surface.
But who knew that Synovial Fluid actually was a fluid?? And that fluids "in fact actually also means water"?? (BTW, *****, fluids doesn't actually mean water, but that's a biiiiiiit over your head, so we'll just stay with the facts for now.)
Fact one: The statement I quoted and responded to was: "when you don’t drink enough water, your body isn’t ‘lubed up’ enough and your muscles shrink, which causes joints to rub together more"
Fact two: your response was in regards to your apparent area of expertise: synovial fluid, which in fact has NOTHING to do with muscles, much less causing them to shrink.
Fact three: Shrunken muscles (are you talking about atrophy?) does not "cause joints to rub together more". You might want to read up a little bit on articular fluid dynamics. Then again, maybe not . . .
Fact four: Tonus is the slight, continuous contraction of a muscle, which in skeletal muscles aids in the maintenance of posture and in the return of blood to the heart. Severe dehydration would ultimately effect the tonus of the muscle, but you probably wouldn't know or care because you'd be comatose from hypernatremia.
Fact five: The human body is NOT 65 percent water. Within single cells water content ranges between 70 and
85%. The percent water in the entire body by weight varies with age, sex and physical conditioning. Heart and lung contain the most water, about 80%. Fat (about 20%) and bone (about 43%) are among the lowest. Therefore, the total body is an average of all organs, blood, and extracellular fluids. Several physiology texts place average young men at 60% water, and young women at 50% water, the difference due to relatively more fat in females. With age fat increases and muscle decreases, so that in old age the body may contain only 45% water. Infants, by contrast, average 73% or more.
Water is in a number of different compartments of the body. Of the 42 liters mentioned above, about 28 L are inside cells (intracellular). The remaining 14 L are extracellular: about 3 L are in blood plasma, and 11 L are in the spaces between cells, including lymph (interstitial fluid). Within cells, beyond the 80% water, the other constituents are the proteins (10-20%), fats (2%), carbohydrates (including DNA)(1-3%) and minerals (trace).
8th grade biology: elements include Calcium, Phosphorous, Potassium, Sulfur, Sodium, Chlorine, Magnesium, Iodine and Iron.
"Next time if you are going to rant give some facts."
Careful what you ask for NumbNuts. Something tells me "you can't handle the truth", so I suspect facts may be a total waste of my time in your case. (See: casting pearls to swine.)
You would be well served to check the truthiness of your version of facts, DaceDiath, before you expose your ignorance in such a public place.
And, as I said before, be sure to stay well hydrated, it is a key component of proper mentation. Critical thinking, obviously, is not your strong suit, and you would do well to remember (if you can) this advice from Confucius:
Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Peace. - Hickeroar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Supposedly when you're low on water, water is "hoarded" by your brain, resulting in increased pressure (although slightly) which can, and usually does, cause headaches. I've talked to people who drink their 8 cups of water a day just to ensure that they don't get headaches all the time.
- fortressgame, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2lose some weight? just a guess.
- moracity, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Actually, you are completely and utterly wrong. You actually SHOULD be drinking water even when you are not thirsty. By the time you experience thirst, you are already dehydrated and causing stress on your kidneys. I remember reading a study a few years ago that determined that 80% of all people are always dehydrated.
The only problem with drinking too much water is screwing up your electrolyte balance. As long as you are voiding on a regular basis, it's hard to drink too much water. Like anything else, too much of anything is bad for you.
Also remember that the recommended 8 (8 oz) glasses of water a day includes your normal beverages. If you drink 3 cups of coffee in the morning, that counts towards your intake. Same goes for juice, soda, and beer. - justinvt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Something tells me ibuprofen will work better, but hey, the placebo effect wouldn't have a name if it weren't real.
- belablack, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I have experienced this personally and it is a known fact that sugar turns to carbs which = fat.
And to TreeNinja -
Soda is basically sugar water. If your mom still gained weight when drinking water instead of soft drinks then either she made up for the lack of softdrinks with other foods or she is a liar and didn't actually quit. - kelbear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2+1 for parent post.
Just because something sounds like it makes sense doesn't make it true. Only being true makes it true. Science would involve finding out what the truth is rather than starting with an answer and then just calling it truth. The new internet meme should be.
"Link to documented and peer-reviewed study or gtfo." This goes for TV news as well. No more hiding behind the ambiguous protection of, "experts say". - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3drop like 400 lbs fatty.
- kelbear, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I like seltzer water.
Basically just water but carbonated. It helps cut away the greasy aftertaste in many foods that coats your mouth when you eat. This allows you to taste the next few bites better. The carbonation isn't healthy either, but isn't going to affect you when you just drink it with lunch and dinner.
Your palate adjusts to how you eat. That's just how it is. If you stop eating fatty or sugary foods for a long time, they can taste nauseatingly fatty or sugary because you're just not used to it anymore. Similarly, seltzer tastes better and better as you get weaned off sugary sodas. It's a nice intermediate step towards dropping soda altogether. - sedawk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Amazing timing for this story! I am at home today with a really sore back (I literally could not get into the shower -- it was too painful).
I'm starting the water --- now! - saska, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@milambyr, it has been shown that diet soda can provoke the insulin spike usually associated with consuming sugar. This in turn causes available energy sources to be turned into fat instead of used for immediate energy. So diet soda is not the same as water for weight loss, particularly in people whose weight gain is caused by insulin reactions (borderline diabetics or those otherwise cutting sugars out of their diets).
- MonkeyMCSE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@arizonakid
well i still do the same thing, that just gets drilled into our head, but i wasn't going to admit it prior to someone else doing it first:) That's close enough to it, and to the responder after yours, it's it at 8 you best be hitting the emergency room for IV fluids, cause you about to die. - chaosmachine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1omg pwnies..
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