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- VaporBro, on 10/26/2007, -10/+61@black|math
"Pot has all the bad health effects of tobacco but you get high instead of just smoking."
You need to do some research before you open your big mouth. You are WRONG. And frankly your ignorance pisses me off. Allow me to try and fill you in on some very simple concepts.
First; read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_additives_in_cigarettes .
Second; you can DIE from smoking cigarettes. Nicotine is toxic and can make an individual ill or even cause death if in a high enough dose. In humans, 60 mg is a lethal dose, and death follows intake with a few minutes (http://www.u.arizona.edu/~tommyb/Tobacco.html). Nicotine is more toxic than Arsenic with a lethal dose of about 100-200 mg.(http://www.emedicine.com/neuro/topic20.htm)
Third; Marijuana has NEVER killed a single human being in the history of mankind. There have been ZERO deaths where Marijuana was the Primary
Suspect of the Death (http://www.medicalmarijuanaprocon.org/pop/deathreports.htm).
Fourth; Nicotine causes Cancer. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1045229.stm)
Fifth; Marijuana DOES NOT cause Cancer. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html) In fact Marijuana cuts Cancer Tumor growth in HALF (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm).
And Finally...Use a Vaporizer. There is NO lung irritation, no tar, no carbon monoxide...NOTHING. Just 99% THC that attaches to water molecules found in the air.
No jackass...Marijuana is NOT like Cigarettes. Before you open your mouth and think you know everything please do some ***** research. Better sit yourself down cause you just got pwned. Now if you will excuse me, I am going to Vaporize some pot and then go for a 3 mile run. Peace.
@Daedalus81
No. Marijuana actually opens up your lungs and allows you to cough out any imperfections. I have been smoking daily for 3 years. The past year was with a Vaporizer. I'm in the best shape of my life. =] - fotd42, on 10/11/2007, -17/+67What does that even mean, "hate mongering"? Who's he "mongering" hate towards? Cigarettes? Old fashioned wieners like yourself who masturbate to the idea of following all the rules set for them in life? Sounds like a cutesy attempt to make yourself seem educated to make your point, whatever it may be. Propaganda? Hardly. To quote The Princess Bride, "I do not think that word means what you think it means."
- RedHerringHack, on 10/11/2007, -10/+54Pot helps many people kick their antidepressant addictions. Some people were looking at a lifetime of paxil, effexor addiction because of the months of horrible withdrawal symptoms from stopping the legal drugs. When withdrawing from antidepressants, the mind is in a fragile state and some commit suicide from the hopelessness and some lose significant body mass from the nausea. Pot makes it possible to kick these invasive and dangerous ( legal ) drugs, and then pot can be quit cold turkey, no problem. In California, medical marijuana can be prescribed for just this function, to take you off the really dangerous drugs.
Pot is amazing stuff. Too bad people are so prejudiced against it. I guess propaganda really does work. Fear of the unknown at work.
Which brings me to my final point. Unless you have experience with it, just shut the ***** up, please? You're embarrassing yourself. - dRuNk3nIrIsHmEn, on 10/11/2007, -4/+45You gotta watch your lighter like a hawk, you know all your friends will try to steal it.
- Allymarie, on 10/11/2007, -10/+45i dont need rhetoric, just a lighter.
now where's my ***** lighter....... - Quake120, on 10/11/2007, -2/+36
The LD50 (lethal dose for 50% of test subjects) of THC is
1270 mg/kg in rats (we'll assume for this that rats and humans are equal in ability to withstand chemicals)
I weigh 135 pounds, which is about 61 kg.
61kg * 1270 = 77,470 = 77 grams of THC to be poisonous.
Lets say that marijuana is average 5% THC content (I'm not aware of current street potency). That's 1540 grams or around 3.3 POUNDS of pot you'd have to smoke/ingest and this is assuming perfect absorption into your blood and not accounting for your body removing it, other factors, etc.
The LD50 for nicotine is 50mg/kg in rats ( again we are going to assume that rats and humans are equal in ability to withstand chemicals)
61kg * 50 = 3,050mg = 3grams of nicotine to be poisonous.
Average nicotine content of one cigarette(1 gram of tobacco) is approximately 11%
That's only 27 grams of tobacco you'd have to smoke to poison yourself.
Not to mention, you COULDN'T smoke 1,540 grams of pot. By the time you got even near that, you would have either run to the store to get food or you would be asleep or just so stoned you wouldn't remember how your legs work.
Sources:
http://health.howstuffworks.com/nicotine-increase.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LD50 - mauiwowi, on 10/11/2007, -4/+36A coupla notes...you dont have to smoke it to get the effects. Can be consumed orally or used in a vaporizor. Taken this way there are no ill effects, in fact according to the Physicians Desk Reference there is no other known substance that can treat as wide a variety of ills.
Also, what makes them think they are controlling it by making it illegal? If anything it's the opposite, no taxation or regulation and enabling organized crime to profit from it.
Reynolds this money could be going to you, where are your lobbyists? - Tyr7BE, on 10/11/2007, -1/+33@StrangeWill: Moot. The argument is "moot".
- kigabit, on 10/11/2007, -7/+30I don't think any potsmoker is going to try and argue that smoke is good for your body. Combusted plant matter just ain't made for our lungs. Luckily, for those who *enjoy* the experience (NOT those who want to "escape," that's what people do with alcohol and heroin), who wish to spare their lungs, there are less-harsh alternatives like vaporizers, making cannabis-butter for baking, and pills contained extracted delta-9-THC.
Hey, but, I can't thank you enough for expressing your anti-drug view in a civil and non-derogatory way kingfoot. Cheers man, lets all live the way we enjoy most. :) - asdfasdf, on 10/11/2007, -4/+25"Pot has all the bad health effects of tobacco but you get high instead of just smoking."
What bad health effects are you talking about? A physical addiction parallel or stronger than an opiate one - or any addiction at all? Death by cancer? Death by overdose? - NikoKun, on 10/11/2007, -8/+28It's silly that Pot is so illegal... it's really the most silly thing in our government today, along side hemp being banned. What's worse is that the lies of it being a dangerous devil weed, are still floating around out there, and that we STILL haven't corrected the silly myths and lies from the 1930s... -_-
Pot is LESS addictive, and LESS harmful... THAN CAFFEINE. And I'm not joking... your morning coffee is worse for you, than using pot every day would be...
Marijuana has killed not 1 person in recorded history, it is not toxic enough to cause damage, and you can't overdose from it. Long term effects of both tobacco and alcohol (and even caffeine), are far worse than any long term effects of smoking marijuana, and if you vaporize, or eat marijuana, there is pretty much no long term effect at all.
What a flipping upside down world we live in... -_- - 10001110101, on 10/11/2007, -8/+25@stealthgear: I'd be more embarrassed about using "your" instead of "you're".
Don't get suckered into the "illegal substance" argument. It's the way the man plays the game. "These substances are ok for you to use as medicine. This other group of substances is not." - NikoKun, on 10/11/2007, -5/+20Tishiablo, I don't know where you buy your pot... but the majority of the stuff out there is most certainly not laced. If it is, your buying it from the wrong person...
PLUS, that just shows more reason to legalize it, so people can buy it from safe, trusted, and regulated sources... - nreynolds, on 10/11/2007, -2/+16you're not talking about me are you.... cause i'd like the money too
- NikoKun, on 10/11/2007, -8/+22what reason would that be?
- Scheissen, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15I don't smoke pot or do any drugs, even alcohol because I don't want the need to waste money on something I don't need.
I am pro-cannabis because alcohol and cigarettes are legal, and cannabis has many more uses, non-physically addictive, safe, and easy to grow. Plus, the terrorists wont get their money. I do believe cannabis is a gateway drug, but only because it is classified along the other illegal drugs like cocaine and heroine; a regular student will think, hey if cannabis didn't do anything bad to me and I'm not addicted -- I wonder what the other drugs are like.
Pot is the number one crop bought and sold in the U.S., just tax it. - BlackOp, on 10/11/2007, -9/+22@ black|math
Pot does not have all the bad health effects of tobacco. The main reason seems to be that tobacco smoke is radioactive while pot isn't. This is due to how it is grown. The average smoker has the equivilent of several hundred chest x-rays every year.
There is also the fact that THC has been shown to fight cancer. First I heard of this was maybe 5 or 6 years ago when a study was done in Madrid where they injected some rats who had brain tumors with THC. As I remember, all of the rats that got the injections outlived the other group by a significant amount of time. Not sure if any survived.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=tobacco+radioactivity&btnG=Google+Search&meta= - cmiller1, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14who would lace marijuana when you can sell ditch weed for $10 a gram to teenagers that comes at $30 an ounce
- Sp0rAdiC, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15Tishiablo - Are you kidding me? You just showed everyone how little you know about the subject.
- VaporBro, on 10/26/2007, -7/+18Good catch...didn't realize that when I hit submit. Here are the links without the parenthesis
First; read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_additives_in_cigarettes .
You can DIE from smoking cigarettes http://www.u.arizona.edu/~tommyb/Tobacco.html
Nicotine is more toxic than Arsenic: http://www.emedicine.com/neuro/topic20.htm
ZERO deaths where Marijuana was the Primary Suspect of the Death http://www.medicalmarijuanaprocon.org/pop/deathreports.htm
Nicotine causes Cancer. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1045229.stm
Marijuana DOES NOT cause Cancer. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html
Marijuana cuts Cancer Tumor growth in HALF http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm - cmiller1, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13very true, marijuana has been shown to cause neurogenesis in the parts of the brain associated with emotion, offering a cure rather than a simple band-aid for depression
- laserblazer, on 10/11/2007, -9/+19It's true. My stoner friends steal my lighters mercilessly. The only revenge I get is when I pack a bowl and they either cough up my lighter or get no smoke.
Further proof that pot turns people into criminals!
(I kid) - strangewill, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11@kadsbaker:
Not exactly saying that Marijuana has killed anyone directly, but citing a pro-MJ website as a source is kind of weak, at least cite a somewhat objective source.
Though as I understand it, MJ will replace chemicals in the brain (pleasure causing chemicals), causing your body to stop producing as many naturally, as for if that will come back with time or not... I'm not sure. Not life threatening either. - dustysquareback, on 10/11/2007, -5/+13"Pot corrupts brain cells and impairs them,"
Please post a source for this information. The hundreds of labs actively researching this very topic will be quite excited by your breakthrough, I'm sure.
Alternatively you could admit that you have no idea what you are talking about and shut the ***** up. - beardsauce, on 10/11/2007, -6/+14Oh? What singular reason is it that?
- dustysquareback, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11Tishablo... nobody laces weed. Think about for more than 6 seconds and you'll realize why.
- Timmaay, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9@Quake/Sickpope
Great responses, it's nice to see someone who can back up their statements and not just ramble off crap that they heard might be true. - KatieBee, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8aww c'mon, THIS one is way better! :)
http://www.druglibrary.org/mags/aapicture/film_posters7.htm - Hetman, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8I agree. That doesnt mean you should stop expressing your point of view. Things are never changed overnight and somethings are never changed. But you should still try to shape the world the way you see fit.
- D4N747, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9That, in my opinion, was a brilliantly worded article. I agree that cannabis should be legalized, because I think it'll allow police to focus on more important things, instead of arresting all those people for possession.
Also, I truly hate tobacco. It has to be one of the worst discoveries of mankind, because it's followed us all the way to the present, ruining lives every day. It causes cancer, it's highly addictive, and all you're doing is getting a mild buzz that wears off moderately fast. Cannabis does none of that, except sure, you get high.
My vote goes all the way to cannabis, regardless of whether or not I plan to smoke. I do plan to try it once in my lifetime, though. - dustysquareback, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10"Which brings me to my final point. Unless you have experience with it, just shut the ***** up, please? You're embarrassing yourself."
God, yes. - Volkov137, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10@Daedalus81
If you read the article, it contains a study on long term heavy marijuana use and how it seems to have no cancerous effect. - codye, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Heavy use of marijuana is great for a lot of things, apparently. Unfortunately, frequent marijuana use is linked to a worsening of memory, speed of thinking, and degradation of other cognitive abilities over time.
This isn't evidence to support the continued prohibition against marijuana. I think it should be legalized. But it does illustrate the nonexistence of a free lunch.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-03/aaon-mso030706.php
"The study found that frequent marijuana users performed worse than non-users on tests of cognitive abilities, including divided attention (ability to pay attention to more than one stimulus at a time) and verbal fluency (number of words generated within a time limit). Those who had used marijuana for 10 years or more had more problems with their thinking abilities than those who had used marijuana for five to 10 years. All of the marijuana users were heavy users, which was defined as smoking four or more joints per week." - bIuebonics, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7@laserblazer
actually... you'd have to consume approximately 10 pounds of 5% (thc content) hashish... that means if you consumed 1.6...pounds of 30% (thc content) hashish, you'd consume a lethal dose. while 1.6 pounds is a lot of hash, i can easily consume far more than 1.6 pounds of material... meaning it is possible to consume a lethal dose of thc in hash and high concentrate bud... :P - el_jefe, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6"We already have enough morons running around here in the US, and we certainly do not need more."
I agree...Unfortunately they are breeding. - TheTankengine, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6No, i'm not fat and my friends aren't either, but we do like to eat. This is because we understand the concept of moderation. Americans in general do not. For a large number of Americans, a life of excess and instant gratification is all they know.
Really, your going to bury me for a little story about some friends hanging out and making a joke about legalizing pot? Did you even read my well laid-out discussion point regarding why marijuana is illegal based on logic and objectivity? Thank you for being short sighted and willing to dismiss me so quickly. I appreciate it. - bIuebonics, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8@Tishiablo
i wish. i don't even do hard drugs like meth, but if someone wanted to lace my $40 bag of pot with an extra $40 of meth, i'd start up the habit for a little while (hell, that's $40 of something for free). seriously though, it would be sheer economic stupidity to lace a bag of weed with another drug for free... :P - asdfasdf, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8The trick is to go into Chinatown and buy a replica Zippo. Tell your friends you paid big bucks for it, and they'll feel bad about keeping it, whether on purpose or by accident. Normally people don't see forgetting a fifty cent lighter on them stealing, and if they do steal your Zippo, then 1) They knew it was a replica, or 2) You need new friends.
- laserblazer, on 10/11/2007, -5/+10You couldn't be more wrong. Nicotine is a strong psychotropic; changing your brain chemistry is what it does best.
Pot is a benevolent herb that has evolved alongside humanity, and up until recent times, was legal for the free peoples to enjoy. - Hetman, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7I am Pro Legalization of mariajina because I believe in personal choice. Personal choice but with the limitation it cannot hurt another person. So that is the reason. Can someone be high wreck a car and kill someone definatly, he can also be drunk or on perscrition medicine which is more likely, But there are laws Driving while under the influence of an intoxicate. Personal freedom is what america is built on and should stand for.
- lpcustom, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8The problem with this essay is that it preaches against legal drugs versus non-legal drugs. It positions an illegal drugs as "not as bad" as legal drugs. Either say "hey let's make everything illegal" or say "okay let's legalize everything." Step back and think about what you feel someone shouldn't be allowed to do. Then step back and think about something you do that someone else may not "feel" should be allowed. The problem is the legal system in general. Get the ***** out of people's lives and quit trying to baby-sit them. So what if John smokes pot and Jim smokes cigarettes. Is it truly hurting you, George? The point is: People should be free to do whatever the ***** they want, as long as it doesn't infringe upon the rights of anyone else who wants to do whatever the ***** they want. Live free and promote freedom, people. Don't ask the government to support your point of view over your neighbors. Make sure that the government keeps its nose out of your business....and your neighbor's. Adults don't need babysitting. We need freedom to make our own choices.
- NikoKun, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9Just because something is illegal... doesn't make that the law is right... If people didn't question bad laws... we wouldn't be living in this country called America.
I always see far to many people saying "it's bad because it's an illegal drug" but do they ever stop for a moment and try to figure out why it really is illegal?
Marijuana prohibition is a bad law, made for the wrong reasons... and it isn't working... We as americans should be trying to correct these kinds of mistakes from the past...
At the very least, you'd have to admit that Alcohol is more harmful than Pot... thus pot should not be illegal... that is the simplest, truest arguement for legalization. When a law doesn't make sense, it needs to be changed... - hopefuel, on 10/22/2008, -0/+4@ RDHerm
stoner's conversations would evolve and a culture of the connoisseur would develop. The states could compete in The World Series Cannabis Cup (sponsored by Budweiser Bud - North American Applicants only). Just think of the merchandising and fanboyism opportunities.
Never underestimate the stoners.
@ blue eon,
I think that your view of government run dispensaries is a bit off. While the current 'co-op' situation in California is a impotent halfway house; the Licensed coffee shop scheme in The Netherlands is a far better model.
To ensure quality in any market, there must be demand and competition. Add to that mix the ability for the consumer to manufacture (ok grow) the product at home and you have a dynamic, consumer driven economic sector.
There are so many different types of pot, it's not fair to lump it all together. It's like saying drinking a pint of Scotch has the same effect as drinking a pint of beer. Wouldn't you like to know what the bartender is serving you?
Legalisation will not only help fund meaningful honest scientific research but also educate and inform choice. The health benefits as strains are cross bred and tinkered with could result in tailor made breeds for combating depression, lethargy, pain and nausea; to name a few. - nestafett, on 10/11/2007, -6/+10@kad
just to let you know, none of your links go to any web sites (except the wikipedia one)
and i agree with you on most of te points except the pot cuts cancer cells in half is a newer theory and its still being studied, so its not quite ready to tsate as fact yet.
and the it doesn't cause cancer one, pot has heaps more tar in it than tobacco so its not 1100% safe (though i do agree about the vaporizer, or eat it) - neuros, on 10/11/2007, -6/+10I can't find mine either.
Bah, glo-rod it is...
and watch out for 'dem lighter thieves... a friend who Bic's you is no friend at all! :p
edit: asdfasdf, smoking weed with a zippo sucks, man. - lowerlogic, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9"And the above comment saying "Marijuana has killed not 1 person in recorded history" is like saying "Speeding has not killed one person in recorded history...it was the impact of the vehicle and another object that killed them."
Smoking pot may not directly kill you, but the things can happen when you are not operating at 100%."
Then, by that reasoning, alcohol should be illegal. - Blue_Eon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Let's list all the legal things that are more harmful than marijuana, cause millions of hospital visits a year, and cause more deaths:
- Tobacco
- Alcohol
- The food we eat (mainly food high in cholesterol, high fructose corn syrup, and saturated fat)
- The medicines we are prescribed
- Cars that are allowed go faster than is really necessary (does a car really need to go 100 mph?)
- and the last one? Marriage (it was a joke)
So, why is it still illegal? One, is because the government hates to look stupid. If they did a 180 and said it was harmless, then people would say, "I told ya so." They never like admit they're wrong. Look at the war in Iraq for proof of that.
Secondly, everyone says legalize and tax it, but who would buy it if it were heavily taxed and sold at a high price, when it's damn near impossible to stamp out the dealers who grow their own, or the smugglers who pay off border guards and small town politicians? You have two choices: The good stuff from your buddy down the road for ten bucks a dime, or the diluted stuff (and you know they would lower its potency to sell more and keep you coming back) for even more money than the street dealers. They would definitely have to undercut the dealers because they know they can't compete, and do you really think they're going to do that?
They don't care about the prisons being filled or the needless arrests of people who are smoking an almost harmless plant. They're just stubborn people who cling to their old ideas about something they know nothing about. Plain and simple. And almost any candidate who says they're for legalizing it will get destroyed by the "morals and values" crowd who will say, "But what if your little girl or boy got a hold of this drug? It would destroy their lives forever!" Those people know how to play to the soccer moms all across the country who are so scared of their little ones partaking of anything that *gasp* might make them feel good. - ksponge, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5@Anrkist (#6636315)
And sometimes, one substance that is entiretly different from another... here's the kicker, ready? Has a completely different effect!!!! I know it's tough to grasp it. Different substance, different effect... ***** ccccrazyyy! - cepher, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6Arent they called politicians?
Those pictures you speak of, are they also from the Im-*****-so-hard Medical School?
Organic Chemistry is fun, and apparently so is making up facts. - toppgun, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7pot doesnt cause Alzheimer's. I'm too tired to dig up the article right now but I can assure it it actually lowers the risk.
I am tired from a long day, not from being a pothead. -
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