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- FlyingPhotog, on 02/08/2009, -3/+42***** cancer.
- inactive, on 02/07/2009, -0/+13Sounds like Obama will get a chance to leave his mark on the Court. At 88, you know John Paul Stevens won't be hanging on for much longer either.
- strikertp, on 02/08/2009, -0/+7Randy Pausch succumbed to this horrible affliction. He left behind an incredible last lecture. It's 76 minutes long, but very much worth the time watching it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo - Brassbud, on 02/08/2009, -0/+7It's funny (not in a good way) that many pancreatic cancer chemotherapy regimens are considered "Quality of Life" treatments. As someone who has undergone chemotherapy, I find it hard to believe that these two terms could even be associated with each other.
- ligyron, on 02/08/2009, -0/+6SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THERE'S A CHANCE
- AlaskaLoneWolf, on 02/07/2009, -0/+6He's gonna' have a lot of empty seats to fill if you ask me, look at how old everyone is getting...
- shaftr, on 02/08/2009, -0/+5From someone who has lost both his mother and a close Aunt from Pancreatic Cancer, I feel bad for Ginsburg and her family. It's too bad that she has joined Swayze and Pausch as famous people with this cancer, but I also am glad to see that it is raising awareness. Since there is no early testing, I hope that awareness will result in more research.
- WootZoot, on 02/08/2009, -2/+6I totally want to digg you down, but everything you said is true, with the exception of the last three words, and you are entitled to your opinion...eh, ***** it. Dugg down.
- phenom2k7, on 02/08/2009, -0/+3" I'm dying, so I'm celebrating my last birthday at Joe's Show Friday @ Tampa Improv!!! "
http://forums.joerogan.net/showthread.php?t=81621
***** hell man, I can't even begin to imagine what that must be like. Knowing your going to die soon with very little you can do about it :( - ChileanGoD, on 02/08/2009, -0/+3I think you didn't give enough reference links.
- krazikamikaze, on 02/08/2009, -0/+3Please stop spreading your conspiracy *****. You're going to kill someone.
- REBECCAFRIEDMAN, on 02/08/2009, -1/+4I can attest to the truth of this report. One of my clients, a 40-year-old woman, died in less than 2 years after diagnosis. It's a horrible killer.
- MasterQ, on 02/08/2009, -1/+3Hey... wanna hear the most annoying sound in the world?
- Prototek, on 02/08/2009, -1/+3I knew was digging him down after BHO but I finished reading it anyway.
- OutThisLife, on 02/08/2009, -0/+2I had pancreatitis a few months back. It was like being in labor for 2 weeks. I had all the strong drugs mixed and they still didn't take even 10% of the pain away. My story @ http://www.sanmarcosrecord.com/archivesearch/local ...
GL if you get it, enjoy screaming into your pillows. - Tweets, on 02/08/2009, -0/+2 Simply put. No god.
- Darkicewolf, on 02/08/2009, -0/+2can someone please point me to the studies that states that a country that has a progressive policy is inherently worse off?
Maybe its simple impossible for me to understand lib = bad bit , I'm Canadian and from my point of view things are pretty damn good on the whole on par with the American stander of living. And for the better part of the last 60 year left of center policies have been driving this country. and that not really even factoring in where we place the center on the political spectrum.
Since canada not Doomed, wallowing is a cesspool of economic failure or moral bankruptcy leads me to believe the ideology is not fundamentally broken.
- tgc1, on 02/08/2009, -0/+2Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
- wbbb617, on 02/08/2009, -0/+2The Lustgarten Foundation for Pancreatic Cancer Research
http://www.lustgarten.org/ - plaguepony, on 02/08/2009, -0/+2Jesus ***** Christ. That's a metric ton of *****. Without Double blind tests these practices are worth than useless. They scam desperate people.
- LiquidSpark, on 02/08/2009, -0/+1Same here. Pancreatic Cancer is brutal for the patient and their loved ones. Good luck to all of them.
- drunkenoaf, on 02/08/2009, -0/+1"Pancreatic Cancer Prognosis Is Grim".
No *****, Sherlock. - whatthefu, on 02/08/2009, -0/+1Wouldn't it be funny if Stevens lived for 9 more years? Then you'd be like, "well, I guess he got the last laugh."
- grbruner, on 02/08/2009, -1/+2Well, that is how it goes in the Supreme Court, old people all the way. The 2 justices G.W. Bush put in are not leaving anytime soon.
At 88, Stevens is most likely going to be out in the next 4 years. And if this pancreatic cancer gets the best of Ginsburg, Obama will have a 2nd nomination.
There is a chance of a 3rd in the next four years but I find it more likely that won't happen until Obama's 2nd term if he gets reelected, which appears likely at this point.
I know a lot of people think that would be awesome but I find it scary that all 3 federal branches could lean so far right at the same time. It limits the checks and balances that happen. - TheMidnight, on 02/08/2009, -0/+1My condolences. My mother in law has pancreatic cancer and it's some aggressive stuff. Hopefully these trials she's in will give her more time, but my wife isn't as optimistic...it's going to be hard whichever way it goes for them both.
- ripple123, on 02/08/2009, -1/+2cancer ***** you, man,
- boonesfarm, on 02/08/2009, -0/+1Nice one, Mr. Samsonite.
- durruticolumn, on 09/18/2009, -0/+1Rest In Peace, William Melvin Hicks, December 16, 1961 – February 26, 1994
- 14justice, on 02/09/2009, -0/+1Darkicewolf, there are many who would disagree with you regarding Canada. I believe many Canadians of my generation would agree with me that the country they grew up in is indeed doomed, and in the process of being turned into a third world refugee camp --- that would be due to the "left of center policies" that have been driving the country.
- Myztry, on 02/08/2009, -0/+1My Uncle Billy (66) died off pancreatic cancer yesterday (Saturday) morning.
No one knew he had it. He was a hopeless drunk so was never in any good state.
Anyway, he collapsed Thursday and died 7am Saturday.
They diagnosed him, and he was due to be released pending further tests and consultation. - Equinamin, on 02/09/2009, -0/+1As a Nurse i will throw my 2 pence observations out there. I also think that with the rates of Diabetes skyrocketing'
that our Pancreas'~ i's are really taking a beating. My dearest elder friend just had a Whipple's Procedure for Pan Ca.
She is now palliative care. It is a horrible way to die. Another...silent and deadly killer' like Ovarian Ca.
More primary prevention and routine physical assessments needed. A yearly Check-up should be a given not a gift. - ftc08, on 02/08/2009, -0/+1You can get more liberal than Ginsburg.
Stevens leaving will naturally ease things up.
Yea, Obama is the most liberal president ever, and you bet your ass he's putting in people just as liberal as he is. I think this might be a good thing.
How are we doomed? - topgigmedia, on 02/08/2009, -0/+1The last line of this lecture gets me every time.
- mjw2025, on 02/08/2009, -0/+1I hope that you never receive that diagnosis but if you do are you going to haggle with you doctor concerning the price of treatment? I was diagnosed 15 years ago with bladder cancer and you can believe me when I say that the cost of the treatments won't even enter your mind.
- PterionFracture, on 02/08/2009, -0/+1. . . of course he doesn't have PC.
- aadautech, on 11/03/2009, -0/+0Most if not all pancreatic cancer cllinical trials use gemcitabine-based chemotherapy in combination with a new study drug. It is likely that gemcitabine will continue to be a key drug in clinical trial design until another active agent is studied conclusively.
http://blog.aadautech.com/post/Pancreatic-cancer-a ... - newms32, on 02/08/2009, -0/+0in soviet russia,
- medicaltourco, on 04/15/2009, -0/+0Advancements like cyberknife are helping with killing or better palliative care. Although a cure for pancreatic cancer is a long ways. http://www.medicaltourismco.com/oncology/cyberknif ...
- SFdoc2009, on 05/20/2009, -0/+0Pancreatic cancer is considered the "grave of drug development". Many new drugs have been tried and failed. There's an interesting web site collecting trial outcomes information I would like to recommend: www.targetedtherapeutics.com or www.curabase.com
- WootZoot, on 02/08/2009, -3/+3Oh wow....Ginsberg is a woman?
- Brassbud, on 02/08/2009, -1/+1I think that's rather disrespectful. Although admittedly I often refer to her as "brain on a stick" and do wish she would take time off the bench, I find no satisfaction in her suffering.
- aftern9ne, on 02/08/2009, -3/+3Lucky for me I have a pancreas of steel.
- aadautech, on 11/06/2009, -0/+0Pancreatic cancer has been brought to the forefront by the diagnoses of several prominent figures, including the late actor Patrick Swayze, who died of pancreatic cancer in September 2009, Apple cofounder and CEO Steve Jobs, and U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. The lifetime risks of pancreatic cancer is about 1 in 76. Pancreatic cancer ranks as the fourth deadliest cancer.
http://blog.aadautech.com/ - reeds1999, on 02/08/2009, -1/+1I wonder how much ransom the medical ghouls charge for their failures?
- Jeremyofmany, on 02/08/2009, -1/+0Please excuse any typos in the quotes. I copied and pasted from PDF and the conversion isn't 100%.
- Prototek, on 02/08/2009, -2/+1He has cancer in his pancreas but he doesn't have pancreatic cancer.
- Jeremyofmany, on 02/08/2009, -1/+0This isn't "my" "conspiracy *****". This is public knowledge and has been for many years.
I'm going to kill someone? No, I am not. I am helping my grandfather survive and improve his quality of life.
What makes you think an alternative treatment is more likely to cause harm or even kill a patient than conventional treatment?
Chemotherapy side effects - http://www.chemocare.com/managing/
Radiation Therapy side effects - http://www.bccancer.bc.ca/PPI/CancerTreatment/Radi ...
There are dozens of alternatives to conventional medicine and treatment.
I will mention the, if any, side-effects of the three particular ones I have experience with.
Rife:
No side effects other than the Herxheimer reaction - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herxheimer_reaction.
MMS:
No side effects other than the Herxheimer reaction - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herxheimer_reaction
This is fully documented here - http://www.bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprot.h ... (Copyright 2008 by Thomas Lee Hesselink, M.D.)
See the section "Dosing of Sodium Chlorite" to read how much an adult would have to take to cause death.
There was a video interview done with the founder of MMS, Jim Humble, in November 2008 by Project Camelot:
Downloadable video:
http://www.projectcamelot.org/jim_humble.html
Here is a quote from the transcript - http://www.projectcamelot.org/jim_humble_interview ...
"JH: And it isn’t like we "think" it works. I’ve treated 2,000 people personally. And the people I’ve trained have treated over 100,000 people. And in that 100,000, normally you’d find 400 people that died. Normally in 100,000 people who get malaria, 400 people would be dead. And there were no deaths reported in that 100,000 at all."
DMSO:
The only side effects are skin irritation (burning sensation, itching, tingling) which can be relieved by Aloe Vera Gel (natural).
Dr. Morton Walker's book - DMSO: Nature's Healer (1993)
http://www.amazon.ca/Dmso-Morton-Walker/dp/0895295 ...
Chapter 5 explains Toxicity and Side Effects
http://www.filedropper.com/dmso-natureshealer1993c ...
As for "conspiracy", the history of DMSO seeking FDA Approval has been contreversial. All explained in this chapter of the book:
http://www.filedropper.com/dmso-natureshealer1993c ...
An interesting point to make about DMSO is that it acts as a natural chemotherapy by design.
Quote from pages 35/36 of the book:
"As a unique nutrient substance, DMSO tends to cause a build-up of white blood cells and more immune production of the migration inhibitory factor (MIF) of macrophages. White blood cells surround any foreign particles in the blood thus helping the body to fight infections. Macrophages are large wandering white blood cells that eat and destroy foreign proteins including microorganisms and other cells in the blood and tissues. Thus, the immune system is made more effective by DMSO, which allows macrophages to move around and through the tissues faster. The MIF, or the factor that holds back macrophages from wandering away from where they are needed, immobilizes and activates bystander macrophages. Such activated macrophages have specific and non-specific death-dealing properties against germs and are poisonous to tumor cells. MIF is a kind of natural chemotherapy for cancer present in the body all the time."
Quote from pages 60/61 of the book:
"DMSO is an excellent adjunct in metabolic cancer therapy, for it potentiates chemotherapy. There are now twelve tumor-cell types in the test tube in which DMSO tends to stimulate the tumor cell toward changing into a mere normal cell, Dr. Jacob teld me.
In Chile, Jorge Cornejo Garrido., M.D., Head of the Oncelegical Department of the Military Hespital and Oncelegist of the "Lepez Perez" Foundation, Santiago., and Raul Escobar Lages, M.D., Head of the Department for Radietherapy of the "Caupelican Parde Cerrea" Institute, University of Chile, used chemetherapeutic agents and DMSO in sixty-five pationts with different cancereus localizations. All the peeple were diagnosed as incurable and previously subjected to conventional treatments. This DMSO combination of drugs had a strengthened antiblasticactivity (destroying cancer cells) due to the potentiating and penetrating property of the DMSO. It reduced considerably the toxicside effects of Cyclophosphamide, the chemotherapy agent employed, especially in prolonged treatments."
All the gains, none of the side effects. Natural. DMSO is a byproduct of pulp and paper manufacturing.
All explained in the book.
If you think I am acting alone, why don't you ask those who are registered members of these forums:
http://curezone.com
http://www.natmedtalk.com
http://www.lymecommunity.com/forums/ubbthreads.php ...
http://rifeforum.com/forum/index.php
All regular people like you and I.
When I checked (9:32AM AST), Curezone, at the time, had 5185 members online.
You remind me of a member on Curezone who I responded to - http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1339463#i
He hasn't replied.
I strongly recommend you actually take some time to read the information rather than immediately referring to it as "*****" when you have absolutely no experience or familiarity with the material. Don't judge. Don't assume. Make an attempt. Be open-minded. Be objective.
The only thing killing patients is relying solely on chemotherapy and radiation treatments and not taking into consideration the numerous natural, safe alternatives out there that are saving lives and improving the quality of life for many. - depro9, on 02/08/2009, -4/+3Steve Jobs will live forever! stfu
- Jeremyofmany, on 02/08/2009, -3/+0Useless? Quite the opposite. MMS alone has cured malaria in over 70 million people.
Instead of cursing and making assumptions and judgements before you even look at the material - take a look and do your research.
I have personal experience with all 3 of the alternatives I have mentioned. My grandfather has cancer and was given less than 1 week to live. That was 2 months ago.
I'll quote the text from Chapter 2 of Dr. Morton Walker M.D. in his book DMSO: Nature's Healer.
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On November 10, 1980, United States Food and Drug Administration officials entered the office of Dr. Stanley Jacob at the University of Oregon Health Sciences Center. They were looking for research reports on possible damage to human eyes from the use of DMSO. They had an administrative search warrant issued by a federal judge and were prepared to rifle through and seize the files kept by Dr. Jacob.
William Zuber and Dr. Alan B. Lisook of the FDA were refused access to any documents by Jacob even in the face of the federal warrant. Instead, Jacob's attorney, Jay Geller, answered the warrant point-by point in federal court. Mr. Geller said such reports or documents didn't exist or, if they did; were not in Jacob's possession.
Geller added that certain documents requested were privileged patient information and not available even under court order except in cases where patients give permission. Zuber and Lisook walked away with only one paper that Jacob provided, a two-page memo on DMSO and its legal use in treating interstitial cystitis. Otherwise, they got no response to questions they asked. Zuber admitted he did not have any authority to question the physician, since the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act does not give the FDA "access to people, just things."
When Lisook asked Geller whether the reports had ever been in Jacob's possession in the past, Geller assured the investigators that they had not and that no documents had been removed from the doctor's office since the warrant was issued. Zuber and Lisook then terminated the meeting, saying they didn't believe they could obtain any information"central to this warrant."
Geller accused the FDA of harassing Jacob. He said much of the information requested in this federal warrant was on record from previous hearings.
Jacob said there was no evidence of damage to the human eye caused by DMSO. "Allegations of hidden toxicity are false," he stated.
Such controversy, with legal actions and reactions, has commonly surrounded the puzzling painkiller dimethyl sulfoxide. Its exciting biological and medical uses have made the substance one ofthe stormiest and most disputed drugs of our day. It lay dormant for nearly one hundred years after its discovery; now it had burst on the medical scene amidst contention, discord, charges and countercharges-literally a war of words intended to convince others of the truth.
The loser in all is intraprofessional argument is the medical consumer. Patient advocacy doesn't seem to exist when it relates to DMSO. Welfare for the people has been abandoned. The facts remain undetermined with certainty; guidance to help victims of illness make the wisest health decisions for themselves has been ignored. Health professionals and medical bureaucrats apparently are failing to fulfill their responsibilities to the public.
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Another quote from page 27 of the book:
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On March 23, 1980, and again on July 6, 1980, the popular television program 60 Minutes reported on DMSO. In a broadcast segment titled "The Riddle of DMSO" CBS news correspondent Mike Wallace gave broad national attention to this chemical. On the program, Dr. J. Richard Crout, the chief FDA opponent of DMSO, said that double-blind studies were mandatory before approval would be forthcoming from his agency. Yet, researchers can't conduct double-blinds because of the distinctive odor of the product. Within a few minutes of putting it on your skin, you can taste it on your tongue; it penetrates the skin and runs through the blood stream so effectively.
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Again, please do your homework before assuming such knowledge and references are "*****".
But, by all means, whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm doing my best and spending my own money in an attempt to get my family through cancer. -
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