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- Rxbrent, on 01/07/2008, -2/+33I'm a pharmacist. It's worse than you would ever think. I would estimate about 8 out of 10 prescriptions for pain pills are for abuse. The doctors let it happen since the office visit gets them an insurance payment. In my area people actually file lawsuits against MD's who refuse to give them pain pills. The pill heads can't win these suits but the hassle and expenses involved in defending them have driven most MD's to give up. By the way hydrocodone containing products (eg. Lortab) have been the #1 prescribed medication for many years. More than 100,000,000 prescriptions in 2006 (double the prescriptions of the #2 drug).
http://www.drugtopics.com/drugtopics/data/articles ... - gds923, on 01/07/2008, -6/+32why is marijuana not legal again?
- DarthLamp, on 01/07/2008, -0/+19I am also addicted to stealth.
- brentinkc, on 01/07/2008, -4/+22Now, because the pharmaceutical companies wouldn't make money on kids illegally taking pills.
Originally, because Hearst knew that cultivated hemp would ruin the value of the forests he owned. - inactive, on 01/07/2008, -3/+19kids dont do enough drugs anymore, straight edge losers
- Error601, on 01/07/2008, -0/+15It's a pain in the ass (or more commonly back) when you have a real problem too. All the Dr shoppers and lawsuits have put them on the defensive.
- PATSCRU, on 01/07/2008, -0/+14yup....most people that take painkillers don't know that they are opiates, with many of the same psychoactive substances that can be found in heroin.....A co-worker who beat a heroin addiction told me that he would get oxycontin any chance he got, because the high was so similar to heroin, but smoother and without the need to inject intravenously...There have been drug busts here in LA where gangs were selling oxycontin in mass quantities due to the demand for the drug.
- inactive, on 01/07/2008, -2/+14this is what happens when you make it too hard to find pot.
- MikeonTV, on 01/07/2008, -2/+13Legal heroin!
- HereticChick, on 01/07/2008, -2/+13It is sad. I have a friend who's a vicodin addict. I don't know where to start to help her. But because of her, I won't take any narcotic. If the pain in my back gets so bad that I can't stand it, I'll smoke pot!
- Woknblues, on 01/07/2008, -0/+11just because people are abusing pain meds, doesn't mean that anyone should try to "avoid" taking them, if they need them. Regular proscribed opioid pain medication post-op will not "addict you". Tolerance is a much more common effect, generally because physicians are now so afraid of lawsuits, that they order the meds PRN (as needed) instead of at regular intervals. So, joe blow back surgery waits until his pain is breaking him wide open, his threshold has been left in the dust, then he needs hardcore stuff, in hardcore amounts. This then leads to tolerance to the drug, and either an ever larger dose, or a stronger one, and a portal for addiction. If he was only proscribed a moderate opioid and analgesic in regular doses from the get go, he would be well rested and on his way out the hospital doors sooner, and with less net intake of drugs.
- inactive, on 01/07/2008, -0/+10I personally don't see a problem with adults taking any substance that they wish to put into their own bodies for whatever reasons they want. Call me ultra-liberal, but I don't even think painkillers should require a prescription for 18+ people. I also don't really see a huge difference between this and getting drunk every night. Lastly I love how if the topic is marijuana or the legalization of it Digg is all for it but as soon as you slap a prescription on a bottle of pills the people that take it or are addicted to it are labeled negatively.
- maexus, on 01/07/2008, -2/+11You're an idiot.
- EBFoxbat, on 01/07/2008, -4/+13This is 100 % (and perfectly illustrates) the American mindset. Pain? Take a pill. Sick? Take a pill. Trouble concentrating in school? Take a pill. Chronically short? Take a pill. Sniffle? Pills!!! Why? Hard to say really. There's basically nothing you can do for a cold. It'll be gone in a few days on it's own. Let it run it's course.
Dr: "The rapid culture is negative. It's probabaly a virus so there's nothing we can do, but I'll give you amoxicillin."
Me: "I'm allergic to penicillin."
Dr. "Oh, we'll do a Z-Pack then."
Me: "What's that?"
Dr: "Zithromiacin."
Me: "What's it going to do if I have a virus?"
Dr: "Nothing, but in case it normal strep. culture comes back positive, you'll have a head start."
Great, doc, I'll be seeing you first when my SuperBug is eating my insides. - jgoodstein, on 01/07/2008, -1/+9My wife has a legitimate back issue and is waiting for new surgeries as fusion sucks. She's been through 4 doctors in 2007 because none of them want to write long term pain care cause they are all afraid of addiction and liability. It's really frustrating that everyone else ruins it for those truly in need.
- Jesty, on 01/07/2008, -1/+9...coricidin is an over the counter medicine abused as a dissociative, not a prescription painkiller.
- CrimsonBlur, on 01/07/2008, -2/+10Your mind ignoring pain, and "killing pain", are exactly the same thing. Pain is just a certain electrical response sent through your nervous system that your brain interprets as "pain".
- chris9902, on 01/07/2008, -0/+7"They wanna get you hooked on some legal *****! They just keep on naming symptoms until they name something that you *****' got."
- Chris Rock. - Ellipsys, on 01/07/2008, -0/+7Now I'm a med student on hiatus, specifically because of a long term chronic painful disease. 8 out of 10 seems to be a really high number for abuse - What gives you the idea that 80% of people who come in for pain medication are abusing it?
- BabaRamDass, on 01/07/2008, -1/+8I don't care if you are a pharmacist; pain killers are routinely UNDER-prescribed, as they ARE regulated HEAVILY by the DEA. Most doctors won't even refill a 12-tablet prescription of 500/5 APAP/hydrocodone because they're afraid of losing their license. Never mind the poor sap with the tooth infection in excruciating pain.
Yes, it's sorry that some people abuse them. Are we supposed to stand in as nanny today and condemn useful things just because some people don't use their head and hurt themselves? Why not go after knives, alcohol, or rock climbing? - NCSUspoon, on 01/07/2008, -0/+7Dr. House eats painkiller like cereal. Are you saying I should not make him a role model for life?
- inactive, on 01/07/2008, -1/+8Pain killers are actually fun, and useful in certain situations.
I was taking finals and I always freak out. Not because I don't know the material, but because it's so important of a test. So massive anxiety sets in and my mind goes 29389 mph. I popped 2 vic about an hour before it started and was set.
Felt relaxed, surge of euphoria, and scored a 90 on the thing and couldn't have been happier. Except when it wears off, your nose itches like *****.
Some people would say that's misusing them, but not really. It did its job and it's not like I'm all hopped up on 'em now.
Huge difference between use and abuse.
Plus, why is the main pic of cold/cough pills? Couldn't have done a google image search for vicodin? - londubh, on 01/07/2008, -0/+5Rush Limbaugh can probably tell us a few things about oxycontin addiction.
- mrsteveman1, on 01/07/2008, -0/+5Those monetary costs are entirely because of the way the system works. There is no way for people to get those drugs without breaking the law or gaming the medical system. If people want to pay for the drugs (just like people pay for alcohol, cigarettes, McDonalds, and every other vice), let them.
Separate out the people using for fun from the medical users and the medical costs will drop. Keep toting the same old "drugs r bad mkay?" line and nothing will change. - AntBing, on 01/07/2008, -1/+6Everyone is addicted to something. Unfortunately some people get hooked on the illegal ones and end up in jail or worse, while other people with "legal" addictions end up killing someone in a car accident because they were too drunk or drugged to drive. Stay in your own house when you get high and I don't care what drug you're doing.
- healious, on 01/07/2008, -0/+5i'm only 24 and i've seen lots of friends go from where u are (or were, doesn't sound like u were attempting to get them after the prescription ran out, could be wrong though) to taking over 100mg a day of percs
- inactive, on 01/07/2008, -0/+4They're taking the pills and not changing any of their habits. Diet pills don't work when you wash them down with a large soda and a Big Mac. They only help to reduce your cravings for food, they don't force you to eat less food or more healthy food, or exercise.
- gkiltz, on 01/07/2008, -0/+4Reality check: Doctors in the US prescribe FEWER pain killers per paitient than doctors in ANY other Industrialized Democracy! AND face more paperwork, and more threat of legal hassels every time they prescribe ANY narcotics for any purpose! This forces severe pain patients to seek relief on the streets, or through "alternative medicine" also known as medical fraud!
Any legitimate doctor, or medical researcher knows the difference between psychological addictive behavior (Continuing patterns of self-destructive behavior) and physical need to taper doses, as is done with a number of non-narcotic prescription drugs! The law still does not accept that difference, and classifies anyone who needs to taper doses as an addict. The doctor is then risking his/her license to even prescribe ANY narcotic to them for ANY purpose, and the pharmacy is doing the same by filling it.
Until we develop a more realistic strategy for dealing with medical narcotics, and get over this addiction paranoia, nothing will change!
When will that happen? When pigs fly! - Ellipsys, on 01/07/2008, -0/+4I agree with you that organic food is great, but you do know that the "worst" class of C2 level painkillers are all derived from a flower? Organic opium for the win?
- maexus, on 01/07/2008, -0/+4Jesus christ, do not take Trip C. If you want to Dex, find a source with DXM as the only active ingredient. BTW kids, don't take dissociatives on a regular basis as it will melt your brain.
- mrbad101, on 01/07/2008, -0/+4Lol, I was just about to reply with that.. I wonder what we've been up to. :)
- MalenfantX, on 01/07/2008, -0/+4Blame the DEA and our insane drug war for that crap. Drug abusers should be irrelevant from a pain-relief perspective. When they want to face their addiction problem the doctor can help them with that too.
- ProducedRaw, on 01/07/2008, -0/+3Anti-histamines help with the itch :)
- spinemangler, on 01/07/2008, -0/+3Hes 100% right though. People don't realize how fast it goes from a few vicoden or percocets a day to spending all the money you have to buy another 80mg Oxycontin pill. It happens waaay faster than you think it would, and by then, its usually too late.
- peestandingup, on 01/07/2008, -1/+4I once knew a girl who was so hooked on Oxycontin that she pulled out her own teeth & lied to the doctor so she could get her fix.
- Cauterized, on 01/07/2008, -0/+3Umm, ever hear of splitting the pill, grinding it up and snorting it?
- MarsSentinel, on 01/07/2008, -0/+3Pot is evil because you can grow it yourself and no bigass corporation gets rich.
- tehgherk, on 01/07/2008, -1/+4this guy is being sarcastic, give him a break.
- inactive, on 01/07/2008, -0/+3I broke a rib a couple weeks ago. Took some percocet so I could go to work. I showed up at work, sat at my desk sweating. I felt so ill that I didn't even know if I could make it back to my car. Ended up going home and spending the rest of the day in bed. I'd never take it on purpose unless I was in severe pain.
- healious, on 01/07/2008, -0/+3where i'm from (ontario) percacet has become the drug of choice for sure, a 5mg pill is around a buck, and its easier to get than weed, i never found it too exciting (just made me itchy) but i have plenty of friends that have had to leave the province to get off the *****, and plenty more that are functioning addicts...for now
- Enfecktion, on 01/07/2008, -0/+3This isn't really a stealth addiction...
Pops is pretty ***** up on em and everyone knows it! lollerskates. - cliner, on 01/07/2008, -4/+7I fractured my rib and was prescribed some vicodin and on several occasions I took more than recommended to get 'high', seeing as I am 19 I guess they can consider me part of the 'silent addiction'. These studies blow everything out of proportion and then Oprah or some concerned mothers get a hold of this rubbish and start persecuting kids, it's all so ridiculous.
- Cauterized, on 01/07/2008, -0/+3I was wondering if anybody else noticed that the main picture had nothing to do with the stories subject matter.
- ProducedRaw, on 01/07/2008, -0/+2http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olney's_lesions#Contr ...
Olney's Lesions have not been proven or disproven for humans. Also FTA - "However, oral administration of dextromethorphan does not cause vacuolization in rats' brains." However I do agree with you that taking dissociatives (or any drug) on a regular basis is a bad idea. - kingofthisnight, on 01/07/2008, -1/+3I personally think the issue with prescription medication is some people do not realize what they are getting themselves into. I would imagine a good deal of these people had no intention of getting hooked on painkillers and were just following doctors orders.
I tore my rotator cuff two years ago and went to the doctor to get it checked out. He gave me some Lortab for the pain and I assumed the doctor was doing what was in my best interest. After half a month of using the medication, I was hooked. When my prescription ran out I panicked because I felt worse than I did from the rotator cuff injury. After talking to my doctor he told me I was going through withdrawals and he could write me a smaller prescription to ween myself off the medicine. Instead I decided it would be best to just get it over with. So I laid around for nearly two days breaking out in cold sweats and feeling miserable. - mcquitty, on 01/07/2008, -0/+2In other news, 4 out 5 children are not addicted to painkillers!
- inactive, on 01/07/2008, -1/+3You definitely have many valid points, but my previous statement should be simplified to this: It's a choice. If people want to throw their lives away then it should be their choice to do so.
I am at odds with the fact that we as adults cannot choose to take or not to take narcotic pain relievers (or any mood altering substances for that matter). I don't for one second doubt what you're saying is true... I just think that we as adults should be able to choose what we put into our bodies and not have the choice made for us by some faceless government agency... i.e. the FDA. - HiddenCanuck, on 01/07/2008, -0/+2Is that black woman doing a psi attack on me?
- Masefield, on 01/07/2008, -0/+2It would make a certain act...smoother.
- weephar, on 01/07/2008, -0/+2ummm...heroin is a painkiller...still used legally for chronic, dying cancer patients in England...it is very effective (unsurprisingly) and extremely similar to Oxycontin and the other opiate-based painkillers. It pretty much is the same as morphine as the way it works is that when it crosses the blood brain barrier, it is converted to morphine...it just crosses 3 times more efficiently. The major difference between oxys and heroin, is that generally speaking, street heroin is full of impurities, so people don't know what dose they are getting due to it being unregulated.
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