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- BassMastr, on 10/10/2007, -28/+109It's about freaking time...go ahead and take some extra money from smokers too!
- JavertHolmes, on 10/10/2007, -7/+35This is a fantastic idea. Next, we should make people with bad driving records, alcohol drinkers, other regular drug users (over, behind, and beyond the counter; self-medicators), people who anger easily, people with lower education levels, people with gambling problems, sedate people who watch more than 1 hour of TV a day, sedate people who use the internet more than 1 hour a day, people whose jobs involve sitting at a computer all day, people who overexercise, people who undereat, people who have promiscuous sex, self mutilators, people who have attempted suicide, people with anxiety disorders, the elderly, and people who have had more than 2 children pay more for health care as all of them statistically cost us more.
Are you someone in the above group? See the problem here? - Alphateam, on 10/10/2007, -24/+52This is so great. I should get a benefit for not eating a whole box of Ho-Ho's on my break. Charge the fatties for their crime. Boo-hoo your fat. Cry your tears around the block a few times. There is this lady I work with that needed her own personal laser printer because she didn't want to walk 15 feet to the printer. I finally talked her boss in to taking it away when she was on summer break.
I'm sure we will get a bunch of fatties crying and saying it isn't their fault.
I'm sorry your lifestyle choice makes you a bigger health risk. Diabetes, heart attacks, the list goes on and on. I should not have to subsidize your bypass because you can't drive by a McDonalds and not grab a Big Mac. - ViRaZ, on 10/10/2007, -6/+34So who's the first guy to tell the 350lb employee that he is going to be taxed for being overweight? .........Anyone?
- 89vision, on 10/10/2007, -4/+27Homosexuals? Come on man straight people have ass sex too.
- ddxChrist, on 10/10/2007, -7/+30An optional incentive program is acceptable; however, penalizing employees for their private lifestyles is downright rude. Are they going to start forcing you to eat their preprepared health meals? Give me a break. If they want to cut down on costs, they should provide incentives, information, and the appropriate opportunities to manage their health, but don't attempt to regulate it.
Who knows. Maybe the target employee started smoking, drinking, and eating like a pig due to the excessive workload and stress shoved on his back from his employer. - MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -10/+31I was with you until you said homosexuals. Now I think you are ***** retarded.
- anachronaut, on 10/10/2007, -4/+21I've said it before and I'll say it again: Fat people are the new *****.
Judging by the comments in this thread, about 3/4 of you would feel right at home wearing a white hood while burning a cross on some overweight person's lawn and yelling "You're not welcome here, fatty!" Heck, you'd probably forgo the white hood and proudly show your face as you spewed your vile hatred.
You are utterly disgusting, loathsome creatures who should be ashamed of yourselves if you had an ounce of decency or empathy, but you clearly don't. As much as you may find overweight individuals distasteful, you are far, far more repulsive human beings than they could ever possibly hope to be. They can change being fat with a little work, but you're stuck being a small-minded, hateful, contemptible waste of humanity. - cfd339, on 10/10/2007, -5/+22And how will they measure? I'm 5'9" and weight 210 pounds. If you check the BMI charts, I am obese. Now, it happens I'm also a firefighter, have a 36" waist, a 50" chest, and can drag a 200 pound test dummy out of a building from the third floor while wearing 70 pounds of gear and breathing through a regulator; or can dive out a second story window onto a ground ladder head first in the dark and smoke, flip, and come down on my feet -- also while wearing 70 pounds of gear and breathing through a regulator.
They'll need to be careful how they assess overweight, I think. - Aelbric, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14As a former smoker, I can tell you that this is what it will come to. Don't smoke anymore. It became far too expensive. I guess the campaign to demonize smoking worked on me if you really think about it. I still think it should be personal choice and that all the anti-smoking regulations are blatantly fascist.
All you folks who cheered for the anti-smoking laws, I assure you, your bad habits are next. Hope you are all prepared to reap what you have sown. - Tarnum, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16Why just the fat people?
Let's tax the cancer-predisposed too! And the other hereditary-related illnesses!
How did your grandfather died, Sir? Do you plan to burden us with your chemotherapy fees in 30 years? - Shenanigans838, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13If you're tired of looking at the fatass women at Walmart, maybe you should get a better job.
- binaryspiral, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15How about the uninsured folks... they cost us more than all the obese insured people in this country.
Yes, that includes undocumented people who show up in emergency rooms with their families. But it also includes the homeless, unemployed, employed people that can't afford their insurance, drug users who's insurance don't cover their addiction costs any longer, AND (my favorite) the person who's insurance has reached their maximum payout... so now they're uninsured because of a expensive medical condition.
Obese people are a drain on the health care industry - but they shouldn't be singled out and targeted for this *****. Wake up people... - spyd3rweb, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13freedom is circling the drain here folks, and you're making it happen by supporting this *****.
- smacksaw, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14I feel sorry for the person who has to tell their Samoan employees that. Samoans are proud of their size and culturally don't take that sort of ***** from anyone.
- joeshlub, on 10/10/2007, -12/+23Smokers already pay taxes on cigarettes. In some states it's upwards of $2/pack. I'd say they're paying enough extra already.
- epj3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12My company has a $400 incentive/supplement program, encouraging you to loose weight or lower your cholesterol. That's on top of an additional $600 supplement for making 2 to 4 calls a year, determining your health risks and enrolling in a program to prevent costly problems in the future.
They already do tack on an extra $500 for smokers/tobacco users. - juicebag, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14Depends on how overweight you mean. a 500 pound person I can understand but charging someone who weighs 170 pounds is dumb.
- JavertHolmes, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Hello, UtopiaInTheSky, I've noticed that you've joined Digg on July 16, 2007, and in the span of approximately 25 days have Dugg up 186 stories and made 200+ comments. Given these statistics and our proprietary mathematical modeling accurate to 99.9% 93% of the time, we were able to conclude that you lead a sedentary lifestyle despite your healthy weight and are a larger health risk
Your premiums have been adjusted accordingly and are enclosed. Please don't hesitate to contact us if you have any questions. - alricsca, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14LOL, boy are they in for a surprise. The latest research shows that the effects of stress over their weight and constant dieting in overweight people causes more illness than carrying the weight ever would. This is true whether they keep thin or remain fat. It also showed that no, and I mean no, known diet has ever been effective for more than a few years. You ridiculing lucky born skinny types are freaking pompous idiots. Blessed with genes that keep you skinny, you imagine yourself having some special kind of will power when all you have is arrogance. Do you truly think that the majority of the human population in developed countries would want to be fat with people like you constantly badgering them? Do you? Would you? For that matter, what exactly do you do to keep thin that you cannot find some heavy person also trying to no avail. Exercise, diet, 12 steps, or prayer come on tell me what do you do that they are not? I have seen them try every one of these things without long term success. Most still stay fat and they virtually all still get sick? So what is your miracle? One day they will figure out what causes obesity and it will be dealt with like any other condition. The only reason we did not see this in the past on such a large scale was the simple fact that people were unable to eat even if they wanted to. Now we have an endless food supply and those who came from populations where famine existed, which was most of then are getting heavy, while a few with the genes from populations where things like disease and war were the limiting factors of life are staying thin. Why this obvious observation escapes people, is the simple desire to find fault in another to feel superior. The way most are talking here shows that desire, that alone should give you a clue that something is wrong. Look at yourselves, is this how you treat a person with a problem? Is this how you expect them to get better? Crushing blame and ridicule have never solved anything, yet here it is in abundance. If they are going to start charging people, maybe they should start with you all. http://www.physorg.com/news94906931.html
- SinkToTheBeat, on 10/10/2007, -6/+16It sure as hell shouldn't be illegal, healthy people already pick up the slack for all the unhealthy people with their insurance bills thanks to government regulations. Maybe this will even things up a bit.
- greevar, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12Tell that to the overweight single parent working two jobs to keep the bank from foreclosing on the mortgage. Some people truly don't have time to take care of themselves because they have to satisfy the needs of others.
- mpn401, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13RONALD MCDONALD IS THE NEW JOE CAMEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- NapkinCat, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14We all know fat people are ONLY fat because they eat McDonalds everyday of their lives. It has nothing to do with genetics or physical problems. Next they can start taxing you based on your race. Since some races are more susceptible to long term illness, such as blacks and diabetes.
- joklem, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12If they change what they consider overweight, sure. Right now, you have to be a pogo stick to not be classified as overweight. Even the obese category is retarded.
http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/ - electronicmaji, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11[sarcasm] Of course this will fix everything because everybody who is obese is obese because they eat too much! [/sarcasm]
People get your priorities straight.....If theres anything that makes people obese its a simple item called HFCS and its in EVERYTHING.
until its replaced with normal sugar nothing will change.
funny story I lived in south america 4 months this year during which I lost 20 pounds. I did not change my diet. I was simply eating a drinking things that used sugar instead of HFCS - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9So you want a corporation to monitor the personal habits of its employees to determine if they are in compliance with corporate standards? Do you know how ***** insane that is?
- DarthMacgyver, on 10/10/2007, -5/+14You sir are a DICK!
- dasaroth, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Lets think about this for a second, i love all the fat haters on here saying "stop eating the fat burgers fat ass". Don't get me wrong a proper diet with regular exercise would elevate alot of the health problems of many countries. There are many medical problems that can make you overweight then just stuffing your mouth with food. I bet a lot of you bashing the "fattys" might just be yourself, considering you are considered obese at just 30 lbs overweight. But back to the question at hand "is it right to penalize people for what they are?" We already penalize smokers why not overweight people , for that matter why not people who are drunks, drug addicts, who use to much sugar in their morning coffee. Don't forget the drivers, they contribute alot of medical problems. If you go after one is it not right that we go after everyone that hampers the health system. Seems to me there can only be one recourse that we can use to cut healthcare to a minimum. Make a cut off age. say like 65. Sorry gramps you lived long enough time for you to take a rest for good. Think that would take plenty of pressure of the health system getting rid of the old bats they suck it dry, right?? you even get a free one since they wont be able to collect social security. Just remember if you open one door, what to stop the urge to open more?
- l0gden, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10I am a fat pig. I know it. I am working on it. You all don't care. You shouldn't. It's really none of your damn business. What you should care about is that corporations and the government, do we really need to separate the two, are increasingly telling people what they should and should not do and what personal choices they should and should not make. Honestly it's unlikely this will amount to much more money per person so who the hell will care. It is just a bunch of BS hype. But one day. When there are 'incentives' and 'penalties' for something that impacts you personally, think back to how you felt about this one.
- FTLJohnson, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9"I'm the enemy because I like to think. I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy who likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries". I want high cholesterol. I wanna eat bacon, and butter and buckets of cheese, OK? I wanna smoke a cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section. I wanna run through the streets naked with green jello all over my body while reading PlayBoy magazine, why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to, ok pal? I've seen the future, know what it is? It's a 47-year old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an oscar meyer wiener" "
- MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11I think you should be forced to pay up because you are a ***** dumbass.
Also, I think you are a neocon *****. I have read your comments on neaveru, and most of them bash liberals.
You buried the article, "The Never-Ending 'War on Christians'" for being offensive, and yet, you say that homosexuals should be forced to pay money because they are homosexual?
You sir are the downfall of the entire human race. - LowRentDiggs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8That's one problem. Insurance companies use BMI as a means to judge "fitness". I am 5'10" and the maximum weight I can before I am overweight on the BMI scale is 174 lbs. I could be 190lbs with 10% bodyfat and be a lot healthier than someone who weighs 140 lbs with gobs of visceral fat (inner belly, the worst kind) and can't run a mile.
- Lyanto, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9These employers are charging extra because overeaters and smokers perform activities that cause health problems. If you are implying that homosexuality is a health problem, you're an *****. If you're implying that certain activites such, as anal sex, cause health problems, you may be correct but it's not like such activities are not necessarily limited to homosexuals. Or it could just be that you find them disgusting, but that's an opinion that really doesn't have to do with this, does it?
- xturmn8r, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11Me. I would tell them honestly. The conversation would go something like this. "You are more prone to disease because of your lifestyle choices. You lose weight, or you get paid less to compensate for your increased insurance cost. We have health club memberships at no additional cost to you. The choice is yours."
- DigitAl56K, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8I'll tell you what: charge me the maximum fee by default and give me an immediate after-tax raise by the same amount. ***** you, big business.
Side note: I'm not fat, but this is quite repulsive. - Calcularius, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Video or it didn't happen.
- LowRentDiggs, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Yes, BMI by itself is a ridiculous barometer. All NFL linebackers and tailbacks are obese by BMI standards. I bet almost every one of them has less than 12% bodyfat.
- phunlee, on 10/10/2007, -13/+19Oh. He is retarded. He's been making these sorts of comments for a month or so now. Totally Retarded.
We can throw in pregnant women, too. They are a huge expense in healthcare. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I think the average Samoan could eat an average American in one sitting.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7She lets me.
- maz2331, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Following this line of reasoning, let's just execute anyone who ever turns up positive for drugs too. Smoke a joint and get smoked.
Here's a better idea... everyone pay for their own damn insurance. - Aelbric, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Unfortunately, people just don't care. As long as they think they're doing something "for the children" or "for the country" or "insert platitude here", they'll happily relinquish both freedom and rights. When did people stop thinking for themselves? When did personal responsibility take two in the back of the head? I will never understand how people became such sheep..
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6That'll never happen, because Corn owns America.
- Calcularius, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5also poisonous, non-natural hydrogenated fats.
- LowRentDiggs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5It is pretty ridiculous to think that you can make money by paying to take care of sick people.
- ELCad, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9What about underweight people like Karen Carpenter?
What about black people too, since they get the high blood pressure?
What about your momma since she always has about 40lbs of man goo in her and always smells so yeasty?
What about dumb people since they are more likely to hurt themselves?
What about women since they may get preggers?
What about not making health care a for profit business and then when stop blaming every? - IllBeBack, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Newsflash. The Internet removes all decency and empathy. People are free to show how really disgraceful of human beings they truly are.
- gbro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5The BMI was not designed for health assessment of Mesomorph body types. Anyone who uses only the BMI for assessing health levels is in error.
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