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- inactive, on 11/25/2008, -1/+120That is unreal. That's like saying we shouldn't support Sickle Cell Anemia because it affects blacks. Their stupidity is astounding.
- Troika37, on 11/26/2008, -1/+56Ah, but THAT would be racist.
- AmyVernon, on 11/25/2008, -2/+56Whoa! While I don't disagree with the concept of spreading the charity around, having different beneficiaries each year. If that had been the sole reason, sure, fine. But this is totally messed up. And factually incorrect, too.
- ChronicColonic, on 11/25/2008, -3/+56The disease is killing the wrong race...no charity dough for you!
- inactive, on 11/25/2008, -5/+52The sad reality is they don't care if whites die. I know that's a terribly politically incorrect thing to say, but it's the truth. If you don't believe it, read this story I submitted a few months ago and come up with a better explanation.
Idaho bone marrow donor registry closed; it was "too white"
http://digg.com/world_news/Idaho_bone_marrow_donor ...
A few months ago, this bone marrow donor registry in Idaho was closed to whites because the 99% white region couldn't meet an arbitrary federal mandate requiring a certain number of non-white registrations per year.
Non-whites were told they could continue to register for free, but whites were told they would now have to pay $52 to use the closest registry, which is in Washington State. Previously, the services had been provided to everyone free of charge. The registry had found matches for 120 (mostly white) people since 1991, so (white) lives will be lost over this closure. - DahktaD, on 11/25/2008, -3/+40Oh really?! Tell you what, they want to turn this into a racial issue..let's go!
AIDS - Black women have a 20 times higher rate of contracting the disease than white women...so let's stop donating to AIDS research!
Sickle Cell Anemia - Another disease that has a 80% higher rate in the black community than whites...stop donating to SCA research!
This what you 'university of Carleton' clowns want?! How stupid can allegedly educated people be?! - WordsnCollision, on 11/25/2008, -2/+37Our universities sometimes take political correctness to the extreme - but these foolish youths will gain wisdom with age and will then regret their over-idealistic, self-imposed blindness.
- inactive, on 11/25/2008, -1/+25Political correctness costs human lives.
Proven. - NathanielJ, on 11/26/2008, -1/+24What do you expect Canadians to say about it that will be any different from what Americans will say about it? People are people, it's not like we have a motto "let the whities die" up here or something -- this was something decided by a single student council.
- inactive, on 11/25/2008, -10/+32I want to hear from some Canadians on this one, but given many of the Canadians I know, I'm not surprised in the least by this.
I am ashamed to be a human being, but not surprised. - Techx4, on 11/26/2008, -0/+22Yea im sick of reverse racism *****.. Carleton University Students Association: You suck
- inactive, on 11/26/2008, -1/+21Straight from the Centers for Disease Control:
"The rate of AIDS diagnosis for black women (45.5/100,000 women) was approximately 23 times the rate for white women (2.0/100,000)"
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/women/resources/fact ... - Troika37, on 11/26/2008, -0/+19What will they do about prostate, ovarian and breast cancer, I wonder?
- Senturion, on 11/26/2008, -1/+17The worst part is a simple Wikipedia search would have told these idiots that their assumptions about the disease are totally wrong.
I don't know if the motivation here was misandry, racism, political correctness run amok or all three, but I know that if a similar move were made against a disease that affects only blacks or Hispanics there would be outrage.
Everyone deserves our help, even white males. - 4U55l3NlNJ4, on 11/26/2008, -0/+15That's rather racist of them. To be truly diverse, they should hold another fundraiser just for Cystic Fibrosis every year, where 100% of the funds raised go to that charity.
- sk9jb, on 11/26/2008, -3/+17As a student of Carleton, let me point something out. Our student union, CUSA, has a reputation for pulling off some of the most idiotic decisions. They needlessly waste student money on important events such as councilors birthdays and misappropriate funds as they act like a bunch of ass hats practicing for their future political careers. CUSA is a detested group of puppets who's views do NOT represent the opinions of Carleton students. I feel deeply upset that I and other Carleton students must be associated with such retarded acts.
- ColinCampbell, on 11/26/2008, -1/+14I'm Canadian, and I see his point for wanting an opinion from within the country. We'll generally bend over backwards to be politically correct, often going to the other extreme, so let me say that I'm not surprised by it whatsoever. Some people have a very perverse definition of inclusiveness. It's a sad thing that in modern society appearing to be against white males is seen as acceptable (while trying to be inclusive).
Every student association I've ever come in contact with is ripe with students with delusions of grandeur who want to make their stamp on things. The fact of it is that students who are very passionate about their issues (often with the most extremist opinions) are the only ones who end up running for student unions, and those sorts of things.
Don't peg this on Canadians. Some of us are still sane. - commenter01, on 11/26/2008, -0/+13What about breast cancer? Saying we shouldn't support these cancer sufferers because it almost excludes all males sounds kind of politically incorrect. I mean, should we impose even more discrimination against women because they almost exclusively suffer from that disease? Please. Reason by any other analogy you wish, it's all unreasonable.
- kinseyincanada, on 11/26/2008, -0/+12so this is kind of a huge deal to me personally i went to Wilfred Laurier which is where Shinerama originated, and in my first year i met a girl who became a really good friend who was diagnosed with Cystic Fibrosis when she was born, after hearing her story and struggles i really got into the entire aspect of Shinerama and every year did everything i could to raise money and even this year after i graduated i went back and volunteered at the school. Its an incredible program and is a ton of fun and you meet such amazing people. After hearing this from friends at Carleton i was disgusted, its like saying CF isn't good enough for there money. Hopefully the students step up and do someting about this.
- ferinex, on 11/26/2008, -0/+12Having cystic fibrosis, I feel insulted. They are discriminating against us just because we are white men. How the hell did that happen? Not to mention, although the life expectancy for CF patients has gone up in the past decade (mostly due FUNDRAISING that can fund studies into new medicines), many still die in their twenties. Most do not consider twenty year olds to be 'men' yet.
I've been blessed by being born into a world with decent treatment from the get-go. I'm 16, and you wouldn't be able to tell I had CF unless I showed you the test results. The thanks goes to the doctors, researchers, donators, and (being extremely modest) myself. It requires a lot of responsibility to stay healthy when you have CF. Both of my brothers have it as well, and while the oldest is doing about as well as me (he's 23), my other brother is on the brink of a lung transplant, and weighs a whopping 105 pounds. He's 18. The medications you have to do, and the little things like nebs, and sinus cleanses, get really annoying.
I'm not asking you to feel bad for me, or even to donate. I'm just making my point into why this kind of discrimination is complete *****. - Andrew84, on 11/26/2008, -1/+12Wow...I'm ashamed I go to this university
- mnemr, on 11/26/2008, -0/+11I am embarrassed that this is happening at my university...
- nirvanix, on 11/26/2008, -1/+12One more Canadian reporting in: Sane people know this is ***** up, but we've got this thing going on up here called 'Victim Politics'. White males rank low in this political scheme unless you're gay or in a wheel chair.
- hurricanehughes, on 11/26/2008, -0/+10Facebook group:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=42753977018# ...
Carleton Universtiy Administration contact info:
President: Roseann_Runte@carleton.ca
Board of Governors Chairman: Jacques.Shore@gowlings.com
Student Council Executives Contact Info:
Brittany Smyth: pres@cusaonline.com
Erik Halliwell: vpsi@cusaonline.com
Kweku Winful: vpf@cusaonline.com
Shewit Kalaty: vpss@cusaonline.com
Carlos Chacon: vpi@cusaonline.com
James WItherspoon: vpsl@cusaonline.com
Councillor who put forth this motion's contact info:
Donnie Northrup: dnorthrup@hotmail.com - puttly, on 11/26/2008, -1/+11Student Associations are usually not that bright.
- woflox, on 11/26/2008, -0/+10I feel ashamed to be a Carleton student...
- inactive, on 11/26/2008, -2/+11One can only hope, but many of these idealistic youths go unchecked into the adult word and never change their tune.
- inactive, on 11/25/2008, -15/+24You've gotta be frikkin kidding me.
What queer things form in the minds of liberals. I truly cannot relate in any way. It is as if I'm reading about the beliefs of an alien species. - omn3s, on 11/26/2008, -0/+8They should tell this to my cousin's family, who died at the age of 23 after battling the disease all her life.
- bannonto, on 11/26/2008, -0/+8Wow. I guess this is even more of a reason to hold our annual 65 Roses Dinner/Dance.
I live in a small community (10,000 people) that has been affected too many times by this, way too common, genetic disease. A good friend of mine died of CF his freshman year in college. Another family watched three of their four children die of CF. In my daughters school, 250 students, there are three kids with CF. So, we have a dinner every year to raise money for CFF (Cystic Fibrosis Foundation.) This will be our sixth annual event. We have totaled over $75,000 in our first 5 years. CFF has the highest rating of all charities of it's kind, with 98% of all money going directly to research.
The average life expectancy of a CF patient has risen about 30 years because of the research made possible because of fund raisers. CF is the most common genetic disease of Caucasians, followed by Diabetes. Once one of these diseases is cured, the other will quickly follow. Right now there is o cure, only advances is the medicine. My daughter who is 8, has outlived an average CF patient of 20 years ago. If you were to meat her, you would never know that she had a fatal illness. If you lived a day in her shoes, you would see how important the medicine is. She starts every morning with 30 minutes of breathing treatments. Every time she eats, three pills to help digest the food. In all the food I make for her, mI had a calorie supplement. Her weight is a major concern for the doctors. If she loses too much weight, she will get a feeding tube. In the evening she has an hour of breathing treatments followed by chest therapy to loosen any mucus in her lungs. Before bed, she takes six different medications. She has a total of 10 prescriptions. Everything starts over the next day. It has been a part of our life from day one, so there never any complaints on her part. And she is a healthy CF patient. We have a 2-4 hour doctors appointment every two months. The doctors are always pleased by her overall health and activities. She is a typical 8 year old girl. - pseudologue, on 11/26/2008, -0/+8***** THAT. SERIOUSLY.
This is deeply personal to me mostly because my ex has cystic fibrosis. We only broke it off because she moved to Italy. She's 22 and she had a lung transplant because her right lung was failing last year. Apparently, even with the lung transplant, it still doesn't extend her lifespan that long. This really really pisses me off a lot. - gilbes, on 11/26/2008, -1/+9Just to be safe, they better not fund any disease that has a genetic predisposition. Limits the funds to treat only people with certain genes.
Oh yeah, and no funding for diseases the primarily affect children and the elderly. Not an inclusive group. - GrammerPants, on 11/26/2008, -1/+8This is simply a case of political correctness gone wrong. It's an embarrassment that these people are our future leaders.
- felidaeus, on 11/26/2008, -0/+7Easy. Prostate cancer only affects men, so it isn't inclusive to women (that's gone), but I'm pretty sure that men care a lot about breast cancer.
- tdfm, on 11/26/2008, -0/+7How about sickle cell anemia or Tay Sachs Disease? Just Blacks or Jews--hardly inclusive. Fact is my wife's sister and brother both died from this--yes, mostly white, part native American, only half male. After all the crap with Obama I guess I should be glad at being reminded that for us in the U.S., we aren't the only bigots.
- inactive, on 11/26/2008, -1/+8***** retarded.
- fuzzmeister, on 11/26/2008, -1/+8I'm a liberal, both governmental and social (although not completely economic), and I'll tell you right now this is completely ***** insane.
- rocketpop, on 11/26/2008, -1/+8The CF Foundation (CFF) is one of the best run charities in the world, and has CF research has single handedly pioneered some of the greatest genetic research breakthroughs of modern time. Also, it doesn't effect "primarily" males. It may be an ever so slightly higher ratio, but it isn't that much higher. My best friend has CF (girl) and I know more girls with it than guys, personally.
It is, however, primarily caucasians--but I've met multiple black people with the disease. Caucasian doesn't mean "white". - Swivelstick, on 11/26/2008, -0/+6Males get breast cancer.
- mistahroth, on 11/26/2008, -0/+6I'm a student at Carleton University (the university in the article).
Unfortunately our student council is run by a bunch of morons, and this situation is giving the rest of the world the impression that our student body supports this, when its not true.
The student president has said on facebook she is trying to put a motion to reverse this, obviously realizing the massive impact this mistake has had. The current student council will most likely be kicked out.
Carleton University students don't support this, and it will be undone. - CorpseJuicer, on 11/26/2008, -0/+6Woah! The title is completely misleading, considering there are two Universities in Ottawa.
I do not understand why Carleton would want to stop this Orientation week event. I've been doing Shinerama for 4 years now, and it's good cause.
As for only white men having CF... right. Considering how a presenter for CF at my school was a little girl at the age of 13 years old.
Way to go Carleton. Student politics ftw. - Swivelstick, on 11/26/2008, -2/+7And into politics
- threemagic, on 11/26/2008, -1/+6I don't think you were intentionally funny.. but you made me laugh pretty hard.
- inactive, on 11/26/2008, -3/+8All the white CF sufferers should say they are gay. The money will roll in.
- jonglebeats, on 11/26/2008, -1/+6I'm from Carleton and most people here are pretty upset about it. The reason that it is not "inclusive" enough is stupid but I think the main idea behind voting against it was because they wanted to change the charities around yearly, although that seems to be overlooked. The information given before the vote was wrong and probably just put together to support a change in charity.
- Lonergan, on 11/26/2008, -1/+6I don't usually diss a university, but Carleton is known as a "last chance U" and well, it now lives up to its name! "Last chance for all you white males out there! No help from us!"
This is a pocket instance at a mediocre university where logic is obviously rarely used outside the very solid comp sci department. Certainly there will be an uproar from students at other universities and no such thing will ever see the light of day elsewhere in Canada.
Shame on them! - Barackalypse, on 11/26/2008, -2/+7Its merely political correctness taken to its logical conclusion.
- triscuitbiscuit, on 11/26/2008, -0/+5If you read the article, bannonto, it said that while others do get it, it primary affects males (which is completely wrong)...
So commenter01 was saying that since breast cancer primarily affects women... - DesertTripper, on 11/26/2008, -2/+7I dunno... I get the same reaction when I hear the other side spewing about baby-killers and intelligent design and gay marriage and whatever other issues Rush and Palin and whoever took Falwell's place get the masses worked up about.
There are extreme wings on both sides... it doesn't mean a mainstream liberal or conservative has to be lumped in with them. - tommy0486, on 11/26/2008, -0/+4www.esiason.org
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