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- eastwood24, on 02/06/2009, -8/+161So she's too hurt to work, but not too hurt to breed like a rabbit. Too bad sterilizing the idiots of the world isn't socially acceptable (partially kidding).
- inactive, on 02/07/2009, -1/+114She was on disability, but who was paying for the in-vitro fertilization?
We were, same people who will be paying for her 14 kids to eat. - LeepII, on 02/06/2009, -7/+111She is clearly not fit to be a parent. Social services should step in.
- Maynza, on 02/07/2009, -3/+56Humans don't have 8 babies the natural way sub1. You have to be on heavy duty fertility drugs to make that happen. And since she already had 6 kids, yeah she is a waste of oxygen.
- gixxer600, on 02/07/2009, -2/+49what a bitch iv had enough of this nut job.....btw she is unemployed and all but she also wants to go back to school with 14 kids at home ...she is clearly mentally unfit....she is so ***** arrogant in the interview with the i love all my kids and those embryos are mine and blah blah blah im a crazy *****
- AnonBuffalo, on 02/07/2009, -4/+51This story emphasizes so much of what is wrong with America.
- triscuitbiscuit, on 02/07/2009, -2/+46I am surprised I haven't heard anything about child protective services looking into this matter (unless I missed something).
It is difficult to take care of 3 kids, let alone 4 and she has 14. Especially as a single mother there is something wrong. These kids will not be able to receive the proper care they deserve. I am sure that there are a good number of families that are unable to have children that deserve these children hundreds of times more than she does.
From what I have read about her, she also seems very immature. I think someone needs to take her kids away from her (and sterilize her too) before its too late. - jftitan, on 02/07/2009, -1/+40after reading that article.... now I'm mad.
- neilk85, on 02/07/2009, -2/+37if i had to venture a guess, I'd say she's already drawn about $500-600,000 from the government between:
-her disability for her back injury (made worse by her pregrancies, the carrying of octuplets and her refusal to have surgery on that injury in a timely matter since she didn't want it to interfere with her fertility treatments)
-the bankruptcy, the medical bills from her fertility treatments (that likely went unpaid because of bankruptcy)
-the current neonatal ICU treatment for her octuplets (since she's currently unemployed and is most likely relying on medicaid, public aid or some other state based insurance program)
I did billing for a health care management firm and Neonatal ICU (or NICU) care is the most expensive long term department in the hospital where costs average $10,000-$15,000 dollars PER PATIENT PER DAY. Patients require sub-sub-specialist trained in a specific department (nephrology, pulmonology, cardiology etc) with training specific to neonatal care. Also, NICU nursing ratios usually are 4-6 times the average for other departments and the NICU uses some of the most expensive life support equipment in the hospital.
This is just a drop in the bucket as she'll receive WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS, LIVING STIPENDS, SECTION 8 HOUSING, MEDICAID, PUBLIC AID INSURANCE, TRAINING/EDUCATIONAL CREDITS, and she'll put 14 kids through the already over crowded public school system on top of FILING BANKRUPTCY, having her HOUSE FORECLOSED and BORROWING TENS OF THOUSANDS for fertilization treatments in order to create more mouths to feed in the most expensive way possible.
All this while contributing nothing (present or future) to the tax base to repay these handouts. So who's the bigger fool here, HER for getting herself into this mess or US for footing the bill as she wont have work a job for the next 20 years. - moobyman, on 02/07/2009, -0/+33Disgusted
- Tyrghast, on 02/07/2009, -3/+36Take away the doctor's license. Then let her blow that 168k on whatever psycho's with 14 children blow that kind of money on, and when she comes back to the welfare office take her kids away. Sound's cruel but sorry, what person in their right mind with 6 kids at home gets fertilized again and go through with the pregnancy, and not have the intention of gaming the system? The only other answer is mental instability.
Everyone receives government assistance when they have a child (1k tax break a head, a year til the age of 18,if you're claiming them that is) but this is outside the realms of reason. Put the kids in foster care.
And I know it's been said but what kind of ***** doctor could implant a woman with six kids already in good conscience... - CYR1X, on 02/07/2009, -3/+35Should I be disgusted by her abuse of the system, or jealous?
- neilk85, on 02/07/2009, -4/+34if i had to venture a guess, I'd say she's already drawn about $500-600,000 from the government between:
-her disability for her back injury (made worse by her pregrancies, the carrying of octuplets and her refusal to have surgery on that injury in a timely matter since she didn't want it to interfere with her fertility treatments)
-the bankruptcy, the medical bills from her fertility treatments (that likely went unpaid because of bankruptcy)
-the current neonatal ICU treatment for her octuplets (since she's currently unemployed and is most likely relying on medicaid, public aid or some other state based insurance program)
I did billing for a health care management firm and Neonatal ICU (or NICU) care is the most expensive long term department in the hospital where costs average $10,000-$15,000 dollars PER PATIENT PER DAY. Patients require sub-sub-specialist trained in a specific department (nephrology, pulmonology, cardiology etc) with training specific to neonatal care. Also, NICU nursing ratios usually are 4-6 times the average for other departments and the NICU uses some of the most expensive life support equipment in the hospital.
This is just a drop in the bucket as she'll receive WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS, LIVING STIPENDS, SECTION 8 HOUSING, MEDICAID, PUBLIC AID INSURANCE, TRAINING/EDUCATIONAL CREDITS, and she'll put 14 kids through the already over crowded public school system on top of FILING BANKRUPTCY, having her HOUSE FORECLOSED and BORROWING TENS OF THOUSANDS for fertilization treatments in order to create more mouths to feed in the most expensive way possible.
All this while contributing nothing (present or future) to the tax base to repay these handouts. So who's the bigger fool here, HER for getting herself into this mess or US for footing the bill as she wont have work a job for the next 20 years. - moobyman, on 02/07/2009, -1/+27This woman should have been IN the crazy house, not working there.
- footodors, on 02/07/2009, -2/+27can we all claim them on our tax return ? we will be paying for them
- inactive, on 02/07/2009, -2/+271. Fake back injury.
2. Collect 168k
3. Have 14 tax deductions. Goochy-goochy-goo!
4. PROFIT
She's a POS - inactive, on 02/07/2009, -0/+24she also lives her mother who just filed for bankruptcy. no seriously.
- K4Lic0, on 02/07/2009, -3/+26WTF does Obama have to do with this article? You're just being a troll..
- heynow21, on 02/07/2009, -5/+28This lady is the Marie Antoinette of welfare queens.
- Awspire, on 02/07/2009, -1/+22The media is all over the place with this story. First, their celebrating the successful birth of octuplets, then they come around and start slowly revealing facts about her personal life painting this as an irresponsible pregnancy by her and her Doctor's. Currently their interviewing her and trying to spin this back to a positive story. The media gets me sick.
Anyway you look at this, its become nothing but a perversion of science, and we must strictly regulate how fertility treatments are given, and to whom, based on their mental, physical, and fiscal state of being. - inhaler, on 02/07/2009, -1/+22No. Only 6. There was some unexpected division.
"Suleman said she had six embryos implanted for each of the previous in vitro procedures" - LowHz, on 02/07/2009, -1/+21That woman is a piece of ***** and a blight on society. And you know who ultimately has to pay? 14 little kids that didn't have a choice. Take her children away, make some pro-life protesters adopt them and throw her out on the street.
- jftitan, on 02/07/2009, -0/+17She blew it by going to the media.
"I was hoping to make some money from the media" - livingdots, on 02/07/2009, -0/+15Actually, she is not raising her children -- her *parents* are. This woman clearly has issues, and the doctors who let this happen are really, really, irresponsible...
- Stinkfistt, on 02/07/2009, -2/+16In an interview recently she described why she had so many kids is because she was lonely as a child. Yet to let her kids have a good stable life she decides to have 14 of them under 7 years old. These kids are going to be far worse off. People should have to take a test and get a permit in order to breed, and I'm 100% serious
- inactive, on 02/07/2009, -2/+16dugg for crazy *****
- MaxD, on 02/07/2009, -1/+14Hurrah for social darwinism, I can't see how that could possibly have _any_ negative consequences.
... as a hint, consider who gets to decide what is a desirable trait. - johnlandes, on 02/07/2009, -0/+13Hell, who'll be paying for the next 3 months of infant care that is going to be required? I doubt that will be cheap
- anonymousmedic, on 02/07/2009, -4/+17Jesus Christ. This woman is an example of what is wrong with America, and what is wrong with the attitude of our generation, the entitlement generation. She wants something for nothing, and some Doctor was stupid enough to give her the tools she needed to do it. It's an abuse of science, and medicine designed to let childless couples concieve.
This is your tax dollars at work, people. Drink it in, but not too fast now. - doug89, on 02/07/2009, -11/+23I know that what I am about to say is completely wrong morally, but logically its makes sense.
I think that manditory sterilization for people with undesirable genetic traits (e.g. high risk of genetic illnesses, high risk of cancer/ heart disease, dwarfs/midgets) and even people with IQs below 90. This would begin to give humanity a positive genetic evolution again.
With modern health care our sick are still breeding, and the stupid are having more children, and society as a whole will begin to become dumber.
I wouldn't go vote for something like this if I had a choice, but logically it seems to be flawless. - neilk85, on 02/07/2009, -2/+14if i had to venture a guess, I'd say she's already drawn about $500-600,000 from the government between:
-her disability for her back injury (made worse by her pregrancies, the carrying of octuplets and her refusal to have surgery on that injury in a timely matter since she didn't want it to interfere with her fertility treatments)
-the bankruptcy, the medical bills from her fertility treatments (that likely went unpaid because of bankruptcy)
-the current neonatal ICU treatment for her octuplets (since she's currently unemployed and is most likely relying on medicaid, public aid or some other state based insurance program)
I did billing for a health care management firm and Neonatal ICU (or NICU) care is the most expensive long term department in the hospital where costs average $10,000-$15,000 dollars PER PATIENT PER DAY. Patients require sub-sub-specialist trained in a specific department (nephrology, pulmonology, cardiology etc) with training specific to neonatal care. Also, NICU nursing ratios usually are 4-6 times the average for other departments and the NICU uses some of the most expensive life support equipment in the hospital.
This is just a drop in the bucket as she'll receive WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS, LIVING STIPENDS, SECTION 8 HOUSING, MEDICAID, PUBLIC AID INSURANCE, TRAINING/EDUCATIONAL CREDITS, and she'll put 14 kids through the already over crowded public school system on top of FILING BANKRUPTCY, having her HOUSE FORECLOSED and BORROWING TENS OF THOUSANDS for fertilization treatments in order to create more mouths to feed in the most expensive way possible.
All this while contributing nothing (present or future) to the tax base to repay these handouts. So who's the bigger fool here, HER for getting herself into this mess or US for footing the bill as she wont have work a job for the next 20 years. - SumoSniper, on 02/07/2009, -1/+13"as an only child, she "longed for certain connections and attachments with another person that I, I really lacked, I believe, growing up." "
Hmm, where have I heard that before? Oh, right:
"I want to be married and have a hundred kids so I could have a hundred friends and no one could say 'no' to being my friend." - Michael Scott
Personally, I believe nobody should have more than two children, but I'd be willing to set a cap at five! Isn't that reasonable? Barring natural things like having triplets on the 5th pregnancy or something? We're looking at serious overpopulation in our futures, and our respective space agencies aren't moving along fast enough to alleviate that by moving us out, so we have to deal with it here.
Having more than 5 children is incredibly selfish. There is no mention of a husband in this article too, which makes me think that these 14 kids are going to be pretty ***** up themselves considering they'll be receiving a 14th of the attention a child with one sibling gets. - Hraes, on 02/07/2009, -4/+15God, people, stop /*****/ breeding. Christ. Find a hobby. Preferably one that involves a ***** condom.
- Pinkertinkle, on 02/07/2009, -1/+10someone has psychiatric problems
- CVL4317, on 02/07/2009, -1/+10Angelina Jolie is closer to saving abandoned kids than bringing will-be-abandoned lives to earth.
- chakan2, on 02/07/2009, -0/+8There actually is some controversy around that question. It's impossible for one person to take of 14 children...Take this from a logistics standpoint...it takes 15 minutes to breast feed or bottle feed a child optimally and you have to do that every 3 hours. (and I don't think it's possible to produce enough milk on a consistent basis to breast feed 8 children, but maybe...). So...15 * 8 = 2 hours of every 3 just feeding the children. That's providing the kids aren't fussy and just immediately eat...which is a rare thing. And that's just for the infants...can you imagine on top of that trying to get 6 other kids to eat, stay still during feeding time...etc...
But lets say you're doing it 2 at a time...so you get the infants fed in an hour (I don't think it's possible to do three at a time by yourself...unless you're holding a bottle with your foot or something). Once that's done, you have change each on individually which is another 5 minutes or so...so 8*5 = another 40 minutes gone. So she's down to 1 hour 20 minutes free to deal with the other 6 children.
So no, I don't think it's possible for one person to take care of so many kids...once they're all 4 or 5 and kind of self sufficient, maybe it's possible, but not as infants. (I'm a new dad, and believe me one is enough).
Anyway, on top of all that, in the interview I heard with her, she said she didn't want to be a *deadbeat* mother and live off the system. So I guess collecting 160K isn't *living* off the system. - Tyrghast, on 02/07/2009, -0/+8I know how it works. She already had 6 kids before the treatment. A doctor, knowing the chances, should have refused.
- Awspire, on 02/07/2009, -1/+9How does this not matter? We have Doctors irresponsibly administering fertility treatments without any regard to a potential child's future. Thats extremely alarming and quickly needs action by our Medical Community to act upon this before it happens again.
- twiztidsinz, on 02/07/2009, -4/+11Let them eat ... *****?
- johnleenox, on 02/07/2009, -4/+11The bitch went nuts!
- inactive, on 02/07/2009, -0/+7someone who gets paid by results (# of babies)
- inactive, on 02/07/2009, -2/+9No, this lady does not represent Americans or America, just because she happens to be American and live here, doesn't mean she represents the average person or the country. As a whole, the average family size right now is 1.5 children, which is really low compared to most of the world. Americans haven't had large families for a long time and the family size is getting smaller. This lady doesn't work, this lady doesn't have a home, this lady is very immature and very unstable and probably has some mental health issues; the average american gets up, goes to work, comes home to their family, all very few serious issues, life goes on. This lady is just extreme and that's why she is in the news to begin with, every country could have this woman, it was just by chance she was born in America. So no, I don't think her or this story represents what is wrong with America, because she's just one crazy person who is extreme.
- Maddoktor2, on 02/07/2009, -4/+11According to Suleman. all 14 of her children were born by in vitro fertilization using sperm from the same donor, who is a friend of hers.
HEY, DADDY! DON'T YOU THINK THAT AFTER 14 IT MIGHT BE TIME TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND SHARE SOME RESPONSIBILITY?! - belebih, on 02/07/2009, -0/+7All of her 14 kids are from in-vitro fertilization.
- MScrip, on 02/07/2009, -0/+6Which means that it wasn't her and some guy making bad decisions... doctors and other medical personnel were involved in this "decision" to implant 6 more eggs.
Good job! - dfross, on 02/07/2009, -1/+7Eugenics is a scary concept because it's very easy to get wrong. There may not even be a single "right" as it's all subjective.
However, we are now in a situation where the weaker in the "pack" are supported by the stronger, and breeding more. What would happen to an animal pack if this was the case? Certainly we wouldn't have even got as far as we have now if we'd got into this pattern earlier. We've "beaten", or more precisely sidestepped evolution (breeding based on our own preferences), and have nothing to replace it.
However rather than a genetic problem, this is a social problem. It is impossible to challenge someone's ability to raise a child, unless they actually make a huge mess while doing it, at which point it's too late and the child is already suffering.
There is an assumption that anyone who has a child already has the knowledge, support and skills necessary to raise the child, but that is obviously not the case, all through the western world. The knowledge is not innate, and some people really just don't know what they're doing.
Parents need some sort of support and compulsory training. They have a responsibility to the rest of society, that the child they bring into the world will be raised with good values and will become a good member of that society. This is basic stuff to ensure the health of the child, like nutrition training (the mother of that 400 lb 8 year old said she didn't know fried chicken and mashed potato was bad for her daughter, WTF), anger management, basic discipline. This knowledge used to be passed down from generation to generation, this seems to have broken down recently. We need something to replace it - "Supernanny" isn't quite enough for everyone. - drex8, on 02/07/2009, -0/+6dude I dugg you up twice in two threads. Please don't repost it again. But I understand your frustration and share it.
- inactive, on 02/07/2009, -0/+6Oh no, there isn't and has never been a father or father figure in her children's lives, she's a single parent and the only other person helping her is her mother, who has publicly denounced her actions. So if her mother ever decided to kick her out of her house, because the woman doesn't own a home and is currently with her mother, then she'd have no one. So selfish is an understatement, DCS should step in and get those children real homes with stability and loving, mature parents who will take proper care of them.
- barc0001, on 02/07/2009, -0/+6Angelina Jolie is also richer than 99.99999999% of the people on the planet and can pay her own way quite easily. And hire as many nannies, chefs, maids, gardeners and anything else needed to provide an excellent environment for "her" kids. This woman on the other hand is a mentally damaged sponge who is probably going to end up ruining those kids' lives.
- freonchill, on 02/07/2009, -0/+66 kids = free (the system + parents)
back ache = - $168,000
8 invetro = free (the system)
living off your parents and the system = priceless -
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