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- BriSoFli, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13@jotux-
You are confusing Schizophrenia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia) with Dissociative Identity Disorder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder). They are very different things and your joke doesn't make sense in light of those differences. - CornStarch, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15The Digg I.Q. index just keeps getting lower.
- davymac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8This hope or any hope in Schizophrenia research is what I need. You guys laugh but try having to live your life being raised with a Schizophrenic mother and a deceased father and coming out normal... not too easy. Save your jokes please. Now if those supposed cures for cancer are real.. and this is real.. all I have left to hope for is a time machine and an antidote for each so i can go back in time and have a normal childhood.. heh
- faultybydesign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6These reports appear now and again, not many turn in to much. But I have some points to make:
1. Schizophrenia is a horrid term for the GROUP of illnesses, needs changing ASAP.
2. As a schizophrenic, I have always been of the thought that no one's perception of the world is wrong, two PhD professors' perceptions are different, but never classed as 'madness'.
3. Mental health system here in the UK is astonishingly ABYSMAL.
"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is call insanity. When many people suffer from a deluson, it is call a religion." - Robert M. Pirsig - Justinpirate, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I have been around people suffering from this illness and all I can say is that I hope they find something to cure it.
- gloooy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I also grew up with my mother as her schizophrenia worsened. She was a wonderful vibrant person, but because her condition got so bad and resulted in her loosing nearly everything she was forced onto medication. Her current prescription has only suppressed all her emotions and personality, so much so she no longer shows love towards her son, or able to find happiness in life. Any other treatment might give me the hope of having the person back that i love so much.
- abid786, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This is pretty basic research. There is a lot more to be done before human volunteers are needed/used.
- CBTF, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4And this is why you're not a doctor.
- saggygrandma, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4How did you know I was thinking that, your in on it!
- OdinEye, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"I have always been of the thought that no one's perception of the world is wrong, two PhD professors' perceptions are different, but never classed as 'madness'."
Small differences in perception and interpretation are not illness.
When one's perception is so inconsistent with actual reality that it causes distress, discomfort, or harm to that person or others, then it is a delusion and, hence, considered an illness.
Schizophrenia is not diagnosed by the presence of delusions alone, but rather requires there to be ongoing dysfunction (e.g.e distress, discomfort, or harm to that person or others) related to the presence of symptoms. I cannot speak to the mental health system in the UK, but as a general rule a diagnosis would not be made based upon a simple disagreement in perception. - zenlunatic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3are they accepting volunteers? anyone know how to contact these doctors?
- smackhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+299% of drugs used for mental disorders act on neurotransmitters. the more we know about how the brain works and what neurotransmitters are responsible for what, the more we're able to target the right pathways in the brain to cure illnesses with minimal side-effects.
- Codename, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is great news for half of the people on Digg. JKJKJKJKJK! :-D
- rowlodge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i always listen to those voices in my head...
- rocktopotomus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I have seen Psychiatrists push drugs but most of the time it is because it is the only thing the insurance company will allow them to do. Do you know any social workers or psychologists?
working in mental health is extremely frustrating. Especially when it comes to treating schizophrenia because there is little chance of improvement. A major source of job frustration for Mental health providers stems from their inability to help their clients. To suggest they secretly love keeping their clients disturbed is pretty delusional and reflects a sick outlook of the mental health profession and humans in general. - SadMartigan, on 11/25/2008, -1/+2I also am close to a loved one with a diagnosis of schizophrenia. Any hope of a treatment that produces a "cure", or at least better results than just heavy medication, is a godsend. And, I am a little surprised with the low quality of the jokes being made here on this page. Normally, schizophrenia jokes are a lot better than these - believe me, I have heard them all. F***ing imbeciles.
- chaosium, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It is never "validated".
- docjohng, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1First, a "new schizophrenia treatment" is inaccurate, at least from this article. Treatments after identifying a new chemical or brain reaction to a set of neurochemicals typically take years, and sometimes decades, to come to market. Of course it gets headlines if you say, "new treatment is coming for X" rather than, "Oh, we discovered a set of things that interact that we didn't know before, and this may help us find new treatments for X some day."
Second, nobody believes mental illness is a disease like cancer is. That is why the DSM is a book of mental disorders, not diseases. When people simplify causation of mental disorders to a single factor (e.g., biochemicals), they are providing basic misinformation about the nature and complexities of these issues. They are very real, and everyday millions of people have to cope with trying to deal with them in one way or another. - gjmcnamee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree my friend. My sister suffers from this illness and its a nightmare for her. This is excellent news!
- rocktopotomus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2but this research seems to be more of the same. i.e. "hey we found another way neurotransmitters are getting messed up, so lets invent ANOTHER PILL for it."
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http://astore.amazon.com/buy.cheap.rugs-20/ - sp1nm0nkey, on 10/12/2007, -8/+8I don't trust it. I think it's just an excuse for the government to install radios in my brain.
- BrutusCirrus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Wow, this could help me alot.
- BriSoFli, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4You are confusing Schizophrenia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia) with Dissociative Identity Disorder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder). They are very different things and your joke doesn't make sense in light of those differences.
- Promantarius, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1A little bit of a side track, but I'm curious: even if you could go back in time and cure the conditions that affected your parents, would you really do it? It'd essentially destroy who you are as you'd never go through most of the experiences that make you what you are today. It's a nice thought, wanting to go back in time and save ones parents from their problems, but it isn't entirely practical. You'd affect the outcome of every life that had come in contact with them, for better or worse.
I understand the sentiment, but I am still curious as to why anyone would want to do that once they consider all the ramifications. Time travel, if it were ever possible, would be almost worthless for anything other than secretive observations. Either way I just thought I'd point that out, the idea is nice until you consider the consequences so it's best to move on :) - Fhionnlaoch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Press Release: http://www.camh.net/News_events/News_releases_and_media_advisories_and_backgrounders/dopamine_brain_target_discovered.html
- JuliusErving, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I'd really like to know how you any of you people think the jokes you're making are remotely funny. It's really pathetic.
- faultybydesign, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Odineye: Thanks for the reply. But I still haven't got an acceptable answer to 'what is reality?'. After that, then we can start saying who's deluded.
- rbanffy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@BriSoFli,
OK. Treating Dissociative Identity Disorder is murder, then. :-) - mark101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"little chance of improvement" wrote rocktopotomus
This is because people believe in the religion of psychiatry, you don't call it a religion of course.I say it is one because not one mental illness is detectable through blood, urine, brain scan or DNA sample. Believe in the meds and you will be cured. Don't tell the "patient" that the meds cause brain damage , diabetes and sever withdrawl effects if stopped.
I challenge anyone advocating meds to try taking a typical 10-20 mg dose of Zyprexa for a week.I bet after just one day, you might feel/think diferently.
http://www.szasz.com/manifesto.html
Mental illness is a metaphor (metaphorical disease). The word "disease" denotes a demonstrable biological process that affects the bodies of living organisms (plants, animals, and humans). The term "mental illness" refers to the undesirable thoughts, feelings, and behaviors of persons. Classifying thoughts, feelings, and behaviors as diseases is a logical and semantic error, like classifying the whale as a fish. As the whale is not a fish, mental illness is not a disease. Individuals with brain diseases (bad brains) or kidney diseases (bad kidneys) are literally sick. Individuals with mental diseases (bad behaviors), like societies with economic diseases (bad fiscal policies), are metaphorically sick. The classification of (mis)behavior as illness provides an ideological justification for state-sponsored social control as medical treatments. - gjmcnamee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Explain. I would like to know why you feel this way.
- smackhero, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0i've always found the psychiatric syndrome of folie à plusieurs to be interesting. at what point is mass delusion validated by the sheer number of people who hold that belief?
- lokai, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I can see a lot of mental health professionals being pretty upset if this treatment really is successful. They sort of profit off of attempting to treat these types of illnesses without actually succeeding too well. Of course, they would like to help a few individuals get a bit better, but any drastic improvement would probably put them out of a job. All of the people I have ever met who can prescribe drugs are just pill pushers looking for more cash. The truth is difficult to accept, sometimes. Here's hope, however, that there are more people entering that field who really DO want to make a difference. Then, hopefully, we can see more progress in actually helping people with severe mental disorders.
- jotux, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5Anyone know if they are accepting volunteers?
- calvmari, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Jotux is behind the times, he must of not read anything after DSM III!
- Seth024, on 10/12/2007, -11/+8Treating schizophrenia is murder!
- jotux, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5Yeah! Are they asking for volunteers?
- kravex, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5Chainsaw down the middle, that'll sort it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Why doesn't it surprise me that this made it to the front page of Digg.
- ghm101, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4I don't think it would work
- ghm101, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4Neither do I
- maestroh, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4schizophrenics are awesome. leave them alone
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1I cured my schizophrenia by taking vitamins, antioxidants, and ate healthier food.
- rodrigo74, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1I am very happy to hear that, but my other self not that much.
- fety, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1holy crap! I'm gonna go nucking futs if I can't be a volunteer! HELP MEEEE!!!
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