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38 Comments
- YawehsDead, on 10/31/2008, -2/+21Yay! A slide show full of advertisements and dubious claims!
- inactive, on 10/31/2008, -6/+18Natural "remedies" < Scientifically developed treatments.
- doktorrocket, on 10/31/2008, -2/+10Mmmmm.....pseudosciencealicious.
- amirbd, on 10/31/2008, -0/+8That included the barest and most random application of science I've ever seen.
Not that any of it is technically wrong. But it's the type of article I'd expect a 5th-grader to write for a science class. - NoQuarter, on 10/31/2008, -0/+7Oh goody, Vitamin K to help my blood clot. Winter's definitely the best time to have a pulmonary embolism.
The evidence for Vitamin C in colds isn't too positive either, certainly not as prophylaxis. http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab000980.html
Just eat a balanced diet (which probably will include many of these fruit/veg!) and wrap up warm. Terribly simple advice but unfortunately it doesn't make a good article. - RumpleForeskin3, on 10/31/2008, -0/+6More slides and ads than useful information.
This is the same stuff your crazy aunt tries to treat you with when she comes over for Christmas. Nothing new here. - inactive, on 10/31/2008, -0/+5Vitamin C will NOT prevent colds as much as people claim it does. Yes, it's pretty harmless so it's insanely difficult to overdose on it, but it really doesn't work like a magical preventative bullet against colds. When you're sick, just stay hydrated and stay the hell home. If more people stayed home when they were sick instead of being a retard and infecting everyone else at work/school, there would be far fewer instances of illness.
- inactive, on 10/31/2008, -1/+6I just wear an energy crystal around my neck and do a little chanting. Works every time...
What? - Ellipsys, on 10/31/2008, -0/+5You're going to need to put up some proof, or at least some examples if you make such a claim, especially on this forum. Also, I hope your wife practices in a state where NDs are actually a protected "status" - there are only 10 or so of them, and in those states NDs can provide conventional pharmaceuticals as well. Outside of those states, anyone can take a mail-order course and claim themselves a "N.D.".
I'm an advocate of anything that works. You're right that a lot of people have some sort of intolerance - gluten being the most common one. Conventional medicine has a name for this - Celiac disease - but admittedly that's only when it gets bad enough for the results to be visible. However, there's plenty of money in prevention - its made by everyone who sells "Take these supplements every day for the rest of your life or else you'll get sick". That's not a good argument for "alternative" medicine, that the "other guys just want money" - Most "alternative" practitioners don't take insurance, so you pay out of pocket for everything. If a therapy works, it doesn't matter if it is alternative or conventional. 15 years ago, acupuncture was thought to be nothing but voodoo, and today it is accepted as having a scientific basis. If you can provide science to prove that homeopathy is worthwhile, please do! However, you're going to face an uphill battle because the signal-to-noise ratio in alternative medicine is so high, the quacks tend to drown out the revolutionaries. - barryiggins, on 10/31/2008, -1/+5can I rub it on my penis?
- Seann7656, on 11/01/2008, -1/+514. Marijuana
- inactive, on 10/31/2008, -1/+5No, but to take the "working product" and remove the junk, refine the active ingredient, improve the potency, find the correct dosage and synthesize it to make it cheaper and more effective, is as scientific as it gets.
- MalarkeyPN, on 10/31/2008, -0/+3Science people always freak out when they see something that isn't scientific.
- socialpyramid, on 10/31/2008, -7/+9"learn how to heal yourself/and stop ***** with the hospitals." -Dead Prez
- derpoopflinger, on 10/31/2008, -3/+5***** you and your ***** slide show, hey guess what assknot, you're buried!
- Klak, on 10/31/2008, -0/+2no hot toddy?
- inactive, on 10/31/2008, -0/+2This is my cure for everything-
Mix brewed black tea, dab of honey, lemon, and whiskey. Drink a few of those and you will feel better :D - wondertwins, on 11/01/2008, -0/+2issnt it suppose to be 12 natural remedies not 12 winter aches and ills
- groo68, on 10/31/2008, -0/+2Well that's not very helpful to me and probably 90% of other diggers.
- Ellipsys, on 10/31/2008, -1/+3@karakh101 - See, that's the problem - "cheaper" - its never cheaper. Prior to Viagra, there was a drug called "Yohcam" (spelling?), that was concentrated, prescription yohimbe extract given for ED. The stuff costs roughly $200 a bottle, and was typically ignored by insurance companies. It was much cheaper to pay $10 for a bottle of high purity yohimbe bark or tincture, and get 95% of the effect. Likewise.. I know patients in chronic pain who can't afford Oxy-contin (tm), which costs hundreds and hundreds per month, and instead turn to making poppy seed tea for their opiate needs, and if carefully measured it provides them the same benefit, and they save thousands of dollars per month. There are a lot of naturally occuring compounds that are just as good as man made ones, some are even better (take the cannibis vs marinol issue - the pill just doesn't work as well!). This is not to say that we don't have some amazing treatments we've developed, but a compound doesn't "care" if its "natural" or man made - that St. John's Wort will still mess with your head (and birth control pills) like a SSRI, and chewing on coca leaves will pick you up a bit, as if you took some adderal or vyvanse.
If "natural" substances didn't work, we wouldn't so of them banned in this country because of their effects (opium, marijuana, mushrooms etc..) - inactive, on 11/01/2008, -1/+3Homeopathic... Do I really need to add anything else here?
- 4abtrlife, on 11/05/2008, -0/+1May be these guys should try out green tea as in http://green-tea.newhealthfacts.com/health-benefit ...
- Woknblues, on 11/01/2008, -1/+2In essence you are right, but then you suggest one of the oldest debunked wives tales of them all, dressing warmly.
- KingGorilla, on 11/01/2008, -1/+2What's the difference!
- Niocan, on 10/31/2008, -1/+2Which was exactly my point? Pay attention kiddo.
What you describe takes a lot of R&D funds and the industry itself has one of the highest profit returns in America. There's something to be said there but I like to keep things objective ;).
With a few exceptions we share every system that makes us 'work' (if you will) with nature, thus if we have any natural problems the answer lies within nature. This, is the goal of medical science. - sb66, on 02/17/2009, -0/+1I find acai berry is a great remedy http://newherbalremedies.com/acai-burn-review.html
This site has a good selection of herbal remedies http://newherbalremedies.com/ - socialpyramid, on 10/31/2008, -2/+2Yes, but what can be cured by McLovin?
- Niocan, on 10/31/2008, -4/+4True without regards to greed, it's not very scientific to make an isomer of a working product only to put it under a new patent and label :P.
We're primates after all, and as emergent as this world is there are natural remedies that work far better then most if not all prescriptions... Take Cannabis for example. - hellojody, on 01/15/2009, -0/+0If you are suffering from dry and painful skin, you must try this product. It WILL work. - http://www.marykay.com/hellojody/skincare/moisturi ...
- Akira71, on 11/12/2008, -0/+0Well I use some of these remedies and whether is is the placebo affect or something else, like it really works I am happy. I will go on being happy. I always prefer to treat the cause rather than the symptom anyway
- dankreek, on 10/31/2008, -3/+2My wife is a naturpathic doctor and from experience I can tell you that you are wrong. What has western medicine given us? Total ignorance of the actual causes of most diseases. You go to the doctor and they prescribe you medicine you can't afford to cure symptoms of a root problem they don't care to diagnoses. There's no money in prevention. A large amount of our population is intolerant to everyday things such as eggs, dairy, soy, potatoes, and ingesting fruit and vegetable sugars simultaneously. Food intolerance is the main root cause of many chronic 'uncurable' diseases like IBS, inflamitory join pain, etc. So go ahead, empty your wallet and destroy your liver all while you ignore the oldest form of medicine on Earth.
Note that if your appendix is exploding or you broke a limb then yeah, GO TO A ***** DOCTOR. But if you can't figure out why you get headaches, joint pain, fatigue, or are constantly farting there's a really good chance your "doctor" can't either. And if your definition of science is hypothesis -> experiment -> conclusion, then homeopathic remedies have all been found to be work, SCIENTIFICALLY. - dankreek, on 10/31/2008, -2/+1Umm no she went to ND school for 4 years to earn her degree and get licensed in the state of Oregon. Half of her coursework was identical to those of traditional MD's. So ok... I had a problem with fatigue, back pain and yes constant bad-smelling farts. I payed $150 to an ND (before my wife was done w/school) to get a test done and was diagnosed with egg intolerance. I too thought this was ***** until finals week rolled around and I didn't have time to renew my stock of eggs or mayonnaise, and what do ya know, all my symptoms stopped. What would an MD have done if I told him/her I was experiencing those symptoms? I would have been charged more than $150 just to see him and would have been prescribed some anti-inflammatory junk. That's it. MD's aren't trained to look for this. No ND worth their salt would have told their patient that eating an herb would stop these symptoms, and anybody who believes some mail-order quack deserves what they get. See a REAL DOCTOR.
For example when I get a cold I take wormwood. Does it stop me from snotting up? NO! In encourages me to snot up. Snot is your body trying to get the sickness out of you. Stomping out side-effects and ignoring root-causes is a very western way of thinking. No ND would tell you to "take wormwood to prevent a cold." It's more like "don't eat things that are bad for you and tie up your immune system so it can actually deal with illness when it comes." - crazyhorse1972, on 10/31/2008, -3/+2A combination, Pau D'arco and echinacea tea works for me. If taken while everyone around me is getting sick, I avoid it entirely. If taken after infection, it cures it within 3 days. Also it immediately keeps the cold or Flu from getting any worse. There is clinical evidense of each of the herb's efficacy against virii. I consider it to be the cure we were always told didn't exist.
- dankreek, on 10/31/2008, -3/+1Umm no she went to ND school for 4 years to earn her degree and get licensed in the state of Oregon. Half of her coursework was identical to those of traditional MD's. So ok... I had a problem with fatigue, back pain and yes constant bad-smelling farts. I payed $150 to an ND (before my wife was done w/school) to get a test done and was diagnosed with egg intolerance. I too thought this was ***** until finals week rolled around and I didn't have time to renew my stock of eggs or mayonnaise, and what do ya know, all my symptoms stopped. What would an MD have done if I told him/her I was experiencing those symptoms? I would have been charged more than $150 just to see him and would have been prescribed some anti-inflammatory junk. That's it. MD's aren't trained to look for this.
- Terasiel, on 10/31/2008, -6/+3I have yet to see a symptom that can't be cured through hot lovin. Take two and call me in the morning.
- techguru2006, on 10/31/2008, -8/+5mmm almonds.
- Suits, on 10/31/2008, -6/+2Upset stomach? Use Ginger
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/ginger-000246.h ... - barrence2001, on 10/31/2008, -9/+1and if all that fails, try this:
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