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- manfrin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7418-21 aren't minors, but we are treated as such.
Such a stupid double standard.
"You're an adult! You can do all the adul- PUT THAT ALCOHOL DOWN!" - nebrfan, on 10/12/2007, -7/+60As far as I'm concerned, if you're old enough to be handed a rifle and trusted by the government to use it against a foreign nation, you should be old enough to be trusted with a bottle.
- teh_toaster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+44stay off my roads
- trghpy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+33@mfratt
Unless you graduated college at 18, you have no chance at flying a multi-million dollar airplane let alone a multi-billion dollar plane.
You need college before Officers school before flight school unless you go the other way and become a warrant officer which means you spent at least 4 years working your way up the enlisted ranks at break neck speed.
However, at age 18 you're more than welcome to be a grunt and carry a couple thousand dollars of lowest bidder built equipment and get your ass blown off by an RPG, land mine, or what ever high explosive our enemy at the time is using.
I'd drink to that...
-T
@beyondsad, keep shopping around, someone will accept it. Its not a crime to try! - LunarOcean, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29The legal smoking age in the states is 18.
- toby34a, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28Nice, digg effect on a US government website.
It would be nice to get some explanation on that, but pretty much every state has some sort of family exemption (and then again, I technically was drinking in public at age 7, yay Catholicism). - idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22IMO, drinking age should be 14. It gives them a couple years to get over "OMG ALCAMAHOLS" before they get behind the wheel.
- Jadael, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21Can someone explain this please?
Drinking not disallowed?
Alcohol not restricted?
I've never seen such unambiguous grammar apparently be so ambiguous. - PatrickFisher, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24I hate to rub it in your face, but up here in Alberta, drinking age is 18. Being 18, I love my province!
P.S. It's pretty bad when digg takes down a government site. - mfratt, on 10/12/2007, -7/+26Step 1: Get fake ID
Step 2: Buy Booze
Step 3: Use your brain and dont do anything stupid with that booze.
I do think that 21 is bogus. I'm turning 18 in a few months, which means (if I wanted to), I can enlist in the Air Force and go fly multi-million (billion?) dollar pieces of equipment with bombs up the ass, but I can't have a glass of wine with my dinner? Wtf? - OmegaNine, on 10/12/2007, -7/+22http://www.duggmirror.com
- tpaine, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17In California getting caught with anything less than an ounce of pot is simply punished with confiscation and a fine, but if you are a minor (under 21) then you get an MIP (minor in possession). I had quite a few bonehead friends get MIP's for various offenses and the crap they make you go through is a nightmare. You loose your license, go through countless hours of alcohol classes (even if you got caught with pot) and many other things to make your life a living hell for ~18 months.
Even though I'm now 28 the injustice of the whole "you can kill & die for your country but you aren't mature enough to have a drink" pisses me off. - b_flats, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Safer than losing their liquor license.
- idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14The map is confusing.
Here's how I interpreted it:
"Not Prohibited" means under-21s can drink it,
"Family Exception" means it is prohibited unless you're with parents allowing it,
"Location Exception"... I don't know wtf that is,
"Both Types of Exceptions" means it's okay if you pass the Family or Location exception,
"Exception for Both Together" means it's okay if you pass the Family *and* Location exception,
"Neither Type" is no exceptions, under-21s can't drink at all.
Remember, you *always* have to be over 21 to *purchase*.
And of course IANAL and this should not be considered legal advice. - badave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12If you join the Air Force out of high school, you're not flying. Gotta get that B.S. first, preferably in A.E. The whole thing about joining the military and killing someone v. drinking alcohol has been way overplayed. If you actually join the military and you're overseas, you'll be able to drink there. I'm sure of it.
I agree that the age should be 18 and that kids should be taught to drink responsibly. On a separate note, while this map points out the places where you can legally "consume" alcohol, the other side is that if you are out of the house and you are caught by the police, they'll point out that you are now a minor in possession of alcohol, which is still illegal. Simply having it in your blood system is enough to give you an MIP, even if you aren't tagged with MIC. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Where is that guy who always bitches about posting the complete duggmirror link and claims www.duggmirror.com does not work? Have you finally learned, duggmirrorbitcherguy?
I am going to get totally wasted. For jesus. - CoFRBrutus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11If a state sets the legal drinking age below 21 they will lose Federal highway funding.
Some states allow you to be a member of a private club and purchase drinks if you are over 18.
Military bases, in the states, 10 years ago at least, would allow you to drink at the base club as long as you were an active duty member, but you could only purchase 3.2 beers. - tpaine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11In WY you are allowed to have one fewer open containers in the car as there are passengers. So if there are four people in the car there can be three open beers.
- glmory, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Lowering the drinking age would put America with such bastions of anarchy as canada, and most of Western Europe! how could anyone accept such a horrible fate for the land of the free?
- glmory, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9For those in the northern USA its Canada...
- tpaine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@ Lemethe
different states have different acronyms, here in CA it's DUI (driving under the influence) - itsthemechanic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10In Germany: 16 for beer/wine, 18 for hard liquor.
- merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"Are you saying that in America ppl are still are school at the age of 18?"
Frequently, yes. Most kids are 18 for at least a few months of their last year of highschool. - Chasuk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Even in the states where there is no family exception, prosecution is unlikely if the drinking occurs at home, and is approved by the parents, in the presence of the parents, and only the over-21's are getting wasted. I live in Idaho, and I've always let my kids drink at home.
Uncle Sam can blow me if they think they can dictate otherwise. - mfratt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"IMO, drinking age should be 14. It gives them a couple years to get over "OMG ALCAMAHOLS" before they get behind the wheel."
Kins of what Germany does...
The "official" drinking age is 16 for beer/wine and 18 for hard liqueur (I tried to buy a bottle fo scotch when I was over there and was turned down because I was 17). Neither is enforced all that often though. Their driving age is 18, and thats after *rigirous* training.
Lets see, < 16 yo's drinking and no speed limit on a lot of the autobahn -- yet theyre not a culture of alchaolics (and I should add they have fewer deaths due to car accidents per 100,000miles traveled than here in the US)
In Mass, the voters REJECTED by something like 60% a bill that would simply allow (under permit) grocery stores to sell wine.
We are waaaaay to paranoid and sensitive. Gimme a break. - fripple, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Yeah thats not something you should want to tell people... not cool.
- hobbes252, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This is misleading. Because possession is still illegal, and if you have been drinking and you are under 21 you can be charged with possession through consumption.
- Klisk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Well that sums up NJ.
- phyl0x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6its 19 to purchase tobacco in at least Utah and New Jersey.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Aren't 18 year olds able to drink on military bases at least?
- deep582, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6The drinking age is set at 21 to prevent elementary and middle school kids from getting a hold of alcohol. When the drinking age was set at 18, it wasn't very hard for high school seniors to get booze and then pass it on to brothers and sisters. The drinking age isn't 21 because 18 year olds can't handle the alcohol.
- AHippie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"Consumption Not Prohibited"? Does that mean it's legal?
- t3rr0rz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5ive been buying cigarettes since i was 13, that just might be because i live in the middle of nowhere
- beyondsad, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I once tried to order a bottle of O'Douls (non-alcoholic, less than 0.5% ABV!) and was rejected...and I'm 20. What is that?!
- Bobius, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@mfratt
I'm in the Air Force. I'm 22 and I'm not flying yet. Have to get a BS first. (Computer Science.. Engineering.. English.. hell a buddy of mine is a history major and he's got a pilot slot).
However, I was contracted when I was 18, and on most bases in the states if you're 18 with a military ID you can buy beer in a PX, BX, NEX, ect... and there's no tax. Now if you get arrested for having it off base, that's your ass. - ncc1701, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What a horribly designed website.
Select your state from this page for more details:
http://alcoholpolicy.niaaa.nih.gov/stateprofiles/ - t3rr0rz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3not in Qubec hammy
- NoNom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3DUI and DWI tend to be different things. The definitions for the two vary from state to state.
In Texas:
-DUI (Driving under the influence) is a misdemeanor.
-DWI (Driving while intoxicated) is a criminal offense.
In Maryland:
-DUI is the top alcohol infraction. Blood alcohol concentration (BAC) posted at a level of .08% or higher.
-DWI is when a person's BAC is between .04% and .07% - Paktu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7@deep582
Then why isn't the drinking age set at 21 OR 18 if you have a high school diploma? - RuthlessPirate, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I think this map was designed to be confusing. Does it mean 18 year olds can drink anywhere if consumption is not prohibited?
- wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4All the location exemption does is to recognize the fact that some parents may allow their children wine or whatever in the home. Still doesn't change the basic fact that the drinking age is AFU in the United States.
- LunarOcean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Depends on the state - some states have legal *purchasing* ages of 19 and 21 (Not sure if that applies to usage), but the 'default,' if you will, federal law has it stated at 18. To my knowledge (Very possibly incorrect), it means that states can set any legal age of purchase they wish - so long as it's 18 or over. For most states, it remains at 18.
- Steviebe21, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Nope...at least not at the bar on my old base.
- glmory, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I would rationally expect that if we expect people to make life or death decisions while using millions of dollars of tax payer money they would be adults subject to all freedoms. However I somehow would be surprised if it is true...
- justaboutdead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3step 2: drink alot
step 3: repeat step 2 - manfrin, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9You read the map wrong. Look again.
- zeroduck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Canada. Yay. The only good part about going to school in MI--Windsor is only through the tunnel (or over the bridge)
- osearth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Freedom of religion should allow anyone to drink at home as long as they are supervised by a legal guardian.
My parent never once stopped me from doing anything really and subsequently i never started smoking ever and didn't really touch alcohol until into my twenties.
i guess it's making stuff out of reach that makes it a bit more desirable to minors. - Dustyb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I agree with Germany's drinking age, not because I want to drink, but because kids can start drinking with there parents around and learn good habits and rules. Or, not.
- mfratt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ah yes Toronto -- the hometown of Rush, the greatest ***** ro... second greatest ***** rock band of all time (to Led Zeppelin). I was in Montreal once, not enough English there (I only know English and German).
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