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- wheresmclean, on 08/28/2008, -4/+50Let's be honest here (this is coming from a guy who has a medical card in California) - you could be stoned completely out of your mind on an 1/8th a day. Who the hell really needs 35 oz. on hand & 100 feet of personal growing space unless you're a dealer?
- KnightMareInc, on 08/28/2008, -5/+24pot smokers want more pot? NO WAY!
- Andrwmorph, on 08/28/2008, -1/+19When you bake pot into delicious foods then it takes a lot more. Its REALLY easy to go through an oz. per day if that ozer is in some brownies.
- Ravatar, on 08/28/2008, -6/+22100 feet of growing space? for personal use?
...come on. - MediaCrisis, on 08/28/2008, -3/+17Really? Come on. There are some kids out there who don't HAVE medical marijuana, lets not be greedy.
- BooLag, on 04/23/2009, -3/+17SSSHHHHHH!!!
- absurdist, on 08/28/2008, -2/+13Remember, we're not just talking about having some stash around. We're talking about a sufficient amount to get patients from growing season to growing season. And for someone like my sister who is going through chemo and needs from half an ounce to an ounce a week (depending on her treatment that week and the severity of her symptoms) just to be functional and keep food down, 35 oz. and 100 sq. ft. of growing space (a 10' x 10' area) is nowhere near excessive.
- Triplastic, on 08/28/2008, -4/+15Even Snoop Dogg doesn't have that much on hand, and he's high constantly.
- inactive, on 08/28/2008, -2/+13You know, when you put it like that - why on Earth do these people need to get government permission to grow and use pot in the first place?
- metalchik, on 08/28/2008, -3/+13It needs to be legal. Period.
- inactive, on 08/28/2008, -4/+14I do fine on an 8th a week.
But then again, I don't have severe pain 24/7 like some other Medical Marijuana users. - stellamaris, on 08/28/2008, -1/+11That's true. A lot of patients don't like to smoke, but they do like to bake.
- VanD, on 08/28/2008, -2/+11$60 for an 1/8th???
Holy *****, you guys need to move to BC.
It's only $20-25 for an 1/8th here. - CRCulver, on 08/28/2008, -3/+11Marijuana doesn't save anyone's life, it just makes suffering more tolerable in certain cases.
- chrissku, on 08/28/2008, -4/+12Anyone who smokes more than 1/8 a day is probably wasting the weed. With an 1/8 a day you will be high out of your mind for the entire 24 hr period.
- KenSPT, on 08/28/2008, -1/+9That's the worst thumbnail in Digg history ...
- TotalDouche, on 08/28/2008, -1/+9I agree. Even 1/8 per day is a lot if you're being wasteful...or smoking every hour. Anything over 3oz/week is just too much.
- MediaCrisis, on 08/28/2008, -1/+7Whoa whoa.. weed cures cancer? You mean if grampy just got into my stash he'd still be here? WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL US?!
- pablo0713, on 08/28/2008, -1/+7To Wheresmclean: If you really had a card, then you'd know that growing weed and selling it back to the pharmacies is permissible by law. Because the price of medical marijuana is $60 per 1/8th thus matching street value, it also makes more sense for a user to grow their own medicine. Money spent on expensive weed can go towards gourmet munchies! However, I wouldn't be surprised if some card users do sell what they grow in their homes on the street or to a small circle of friends and family.
- highlymodified, on 08/28/2008, -4/+10Something all the "that's waaaay too much" people need to understand:
Pot works through the Endocannabinoid system, a biochemical pathway already in place in your body with cannabinoid-like chemicals.
This is similar to the way that morphine and opioids work through the endorphin and pleasure pathways of the nervous system.
First, this means that if a patient is in sufficient pain or has intractable nausea, much higher doses than recreational ones will probably be needed, and perhaps will not even result in a stronger "high" like recreational users would get.
Next, EVENTUALLY YOU WILL BECOME HABITUATED. Because it acts as endogenous chemicals in your body, eventually, it will start replacing them and higher doses (read: more weed) will be needed to keep up the therapeutic effects. That said, withdrawal is not even close to as severe as the opioids that would otherwise be used to treat pain.
My mother is on doses of Oxycontin three times a day, where ONE of them would kill a non-user twice over, to treat the massive bone pain from breast cancer metastasis and chemotherapy. Once she becomes habituated to the dose and again in pain, the only option is to increase it. People like this are going to be slightly stoned anyway, because of the strength of drugs needed to treat their conditions, and cannabis may offer a safer, cheaply available, lesser-withdrawal alternative to other painkillers.
This is without the other therapeutic uses being studied for cannabinoids, including for killing cancer cells and certain mental conditions.
There should be no limit to the amount the patients can possess or produce....just a cancer researcher's 2cents. - Dubbsacc, on 08/28/2008, -2/+7Restoring the appetite of a chemo patient isn't saving their life?
- LogicBomB, on 08/28/2008, -1/+6People keep fighting the wrong fights.
Let's get medical weed to the point where people can buy it and use it without being arrested for it by the feds. Once that's all settled, then we can bitch and moan about quantity, quality, legalization, etc.. - OMnicient, on 08/28/2008, -3/+7This weight includes not-so-potent leaves and stems, and other cannabis refuse. Also keep in mind that not everyone needs to use the strongest cannabis, either. Some people are happy to use the medium-range strains of plant because they have concentrations of other cannabinoids that are more therapeutic.
Saying someone doesn't need 4 or 5 grams per day is pretty ignorant, considering how many genuinely harmful drugs that their cannabis may be replacing, from codeine, morphine, and other liver-destructive and incapacitating analgesics, to sleep medications. Keep in mind how much their prescriptions may be costing, in terms of insurance and government "entitlements" of care. The people replacing their meds with herb aren't necessarily rich, they may be trying to save themselves a lot of money, and improve their quality of life.
BTW, 0.7g per joint is a definite "sharing" joint. - blah247, on 08/28/2008, -3/+7Just legalize the ***** already...
- danthepiercer, on 08/28/2008, -1/+5sorry Andrw...im calling *****.
an oz/day when cooking with weed huh?...yes, one can cook more than an oz.into brownies or cookies, but really being able to consume that much?...no, i dont think so.
1/4 oz of decent nugs baked into 6 cookies will have most anyone holding onto the floor so they dont fall off!
let me say this, im all for full on legalization, i lovelovelove to smoke daily and have for the past 10 yrs or so, i believe that weed is absolutely harmless and i think im going to smoke some now...
but, with that being said...
71 oz's is a bit much to argue. - bdigital24, on 08/28/2008, -2/+61/4oz a day? damn lady... man this last part is hilarious:
"Sue Watson of Seattle said she stopped taking most of her prescription drugs and instead smokes a quarter of an ounce of marijuana a day, as well as eating it in capsules and rubbing it on her skin.
And Dr. William Robertson, former director of the Washington Poison Center, said few people complain of having too much marijuana."
I... I... I.... just don't know what to do with all this marijuana! LoL - Ravatar, on 08/28/2008, -2/+6I'm aware. And I also know 100 square feet is plenty for 10-20 VERY big plants, or several times more smaller ones.
- Scrappy1850, on 08/28/2008, -2/+6use the reply feature, stupid.
- doctorgrim, on 08/28/2008, -2/+5Legalize it already! Sheesh!
- Ravatar, on 08/28/2008, -2/+5I agree. Legalize it for those 18 yrs old and up with penalties for those caught committing crimes where marijuana was a factor (DUI, etc).
- mattmy, on 08/28/2008, -2/+5so you can only have a little over 2 pounds at a time... and people need to have that doubled? really....
lol wow - LordStandley, on 08/28/2008, -2/+5100 ft of growing space allows for someone to keep a steady number of plants always ready to harvest. The whole room would not be ready harvest plants all at the same time. You would have the room set up in cycles so you were always a few weeks to a month away from a new harvest.
So 100 ft isn't really that much space for someone growing MEDICALLY. But it is a lot of space for someone who's growing out of greed. - jjhuddle, on 08/28/2008, -0/+3"The cool thing about the Fed-Ex Guy is, he's a drug dealer, and he doesn't even know it"
- mattmy, on 08/28/2008, -0/+3damn... serisouly you all are getting ***** lol
- BaudiIROCZ, on 08/28/2008, -1/+4Let's not get greedy now. How about we focus on stopping the feds from overriding state rule? No more raiding shops or arresting patients!!!
http://www.norml.org/
http://www.mpp.org/ - jonathandyer, on 08/28/2008, -1/+42 a day? do you know how much weed it takes to get a single ounce?
- Smuikas, on 08/28/2008, -4/+7Yeah, man. I totally agree with you.
100mg of Codeine a day should be enough pain killer for anyone in severe chronic pain. Or hell, chemotherapy isn't THAT bad! We already give 'em 100mg of Codeine, why should we give them more? I hear some of them are even asking for stuff like Oxycontin!!
Give a little and those crafty cancer-ridden punks will take a mile, I swear.
/eyeroll - Dweller99, on 08/28/2008, -3/+6I am not sure where to begin with the BS in this post, so I will just make it easy on myself and bury it.
- stellamaris, on 08/28/2008, -1/+4You have obviously never lived with a pothead. 10 oz a year? You are way off.
- binaryloop, on 08/29/2008, -0/+2I am OK with real medical patients using it for real medical conditions. But, if you look in the back of magazines in California you'll see ads for "Dr. Stoner" who will diagnose your "medical condition" to give you a card to buy weed. *Wink* *Wink* Nudge Nudge. They hand these cards out to anyone and everyone. The vast majority of people buying medical marijuana have no medical needs whatsoever. They are stoners looking for cheap, high quality weed. I wish that stoners would go about it legally. Don't wrap yourself in the false flag of "medical marijuana" it hurts the patients who really need it. If you disagree with the pot laws then organize yourselves and change the law. Oh... wait.... sorry.... you've been trying that for 30 years..... but, nobody shows up to NORML meetings because they're too stoned to get off the couch.... too lazy to write letters..... and too apathetic to march to Washington.
- thechr0nic, on 08/28/2008, -0/+2to expound on what you said:
100 ft might be sufficient for someone using medicinally. For those growing for profit/greed there is no room big enough. - Bots, on 08/28/2008, -0/+2sounds like you need to take a T-break. lol ;)
- jamie191817, on 08/28/2008, -0/+2i dont know about you, but when i drive stoned (munch munch, om nom nom trips, ya kno) i never go above about 20mph. still, i wouldnt call it safe. I would say it was safer than driving drunk though.
- Bots, on 08/28/2008, -0/+2thechr0nic. how are you going through an ounce a day in edibles. just curious. first experience with edibles (2gram) was enough for about 4 hours. I understand tolerance and metaloblism are different - especially with heavy users but over an ounce in edibles seems quite a lot for a day. I guess it depends on your prep. :S
- sonicomega, on 08/28/2008, -3/+5Your wrong wheresmclean. 1/8 oz is 3.5gm and lets just say you need pot to eat, remove nausea and lessen pain. Lets also just say your smoke .7gm per joint (if you do smoke yours as opposed to eating it). That's 5 joints. Breakfast, lunch, dinner and lets just say one other snack not to mention you get these pains every day that only leave with a joint. You easily could go thru an eighth a day.
- inactive, on 08/28/2008, -0/+2Forget to mention I use a vaporizer.
3 days sounds about right when I used to roll. - binaryloop, on 08/29/2008, -0/+2You guys face an uphill battle. 99.999% of the rest of the world sees medical marijuana as the tip of the wedge. Nobody is going to be an ***** and tell the guy who is dying of cancer in 2 month that he can't smoke dope. He has no hair, he vomits blood, and he looks like the walking dead. The thing that ruins it is when you see healthy looking stoners with dreadlocks and Bob Marley t-shirts standing in line down at the dispensary. Nobody is buying the "medical" excuse. The non-weed-smoking public sees pot as a gateway to complete laziness and stupidity. People in this country are already fat, lazy and apathetic. The last thing they need is copious amounts of dope to make them more fat, stupid and lazy. To anyone who doesn't believe it, watch this post get buried for expressing an anti-pot opinion in.... 3...2....1.....
- FurtThePirate, on 08/28/2008, -0/+2Really? in the seattle area it's like 1.7-2.0 grams for 20$
- wheresmclean, on 08/28/2008, -0/+2@sonicomega - fair points, I don't make a lot of edibles so I didn't think about baking every day. But, to OMnicient's point, a .7g joint is a rather large joint (on average most joints weigh closer to 400mg).
@OMnicient - I guess an 1/8th a day isn't THAT outlandish, but I know I personally would be very thoroughly baked on that and I'm a decent sized guy. I also didn't take the time to think through the pricing of using at least that much a day (because I couldn't fathom it!).
I almost don't want to point it out because I'm scared it will disappear...but an intelligent discussion on Digg! OMG! - TheBigBentley, on 08/29/2008, -1/+3Of course it does. That's because all their friends end up smoking it all.
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