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- Abno, on 10/11/2007, -2/+56Step in the right direction, but far from over.
- dasilva333, on 10/11/2007, -2/+48what exactly is an "official recommendation" i mean is that something the DEA can just 'ignore'?
- asdfasdf, on 10/11/2007, -3/+38The Internet has been a major catalyst in educating users on the Drug War and facts on drugs; Facts are the DEA's biggest enemy.
- NikoKun, on 10/11/2007, -1/+33I support Prohibition reform... but I haven't done marijuana in my life...
So to anyone out there, that might say "you just wanna get high"...
No, this is about repairing the damage that foolish prohibition laws have caused this country. All the lives these lies and laws have screwed up, need the real truth and justice. Things that are harmless shouldn't be illegal, just because of old laws that were put into place for the wrong reasons. Punishments should fit the crimes... and no law should do more harm than the crime itself. And thats what prohibition is, causing more harm than good to everyone, and thats why we need to abolish it.
Besides, prohibition is unamerican, and against the personal freedoms that we are supposed to have in this country.
I've never done Marijuana, but I still believe it should be legal, and especially for medical patients that it really does help. People should have the choice and freedom to use something less harmful than alcohol, and do it legally. - Hananda, on 10/11/2007, -3/+27@dasilva333
Since there's no deadline to make a decision on the part of the DEA, yes, they can ignore it. - ruley, on 10/11/2007, -2/+25this is so great! the government has never overlooked scientific evidence and just go on assertions!
looking forward to... nothing - moman, on 10/11/2007, -3/+21@magnus
"oh man. this would be so great to get good weed. It is hard if you don't have a good dealer.
This makes me want to get stoned really badly."
Honestly, I sympathize with you. I love the stuff and hate not having it, but please don't ruin this. One of the reasons, medical pot isn't legal is that people are afraid the system will be abused. Honestly, even if it becomes legal in my state, I would still go through my "guy" to get it, as opposed to the legit medical way, as there are people who are seriously in need for marijuana to treat their ailments. By abusing the system, you are giving more fodder for anti-medical-pot people to use to suppress those in a serious need.
I am all for full 100% legalization (for medicinal and recreational purposes), but until then I won't abuse the medical system just to get my hands on it. - kethraal, on 10/11/2007, -6/+23So I get done doing a server rebuild, I go out, spark up a nice spliff, come back, and find this in my RSS reader.
God damn. That's amazing news. I yelled "WOOHOO YES!!!" when I saw it. I stand by that statement. - wakananda, on 10/11/2007, -2/+19mal1964: "...that's the gateway for legal crack and heroin."
By that logic, legal fireworks are the gateway to legal hand-grenades. And "crack," as pure cocaine, is already legal for medicinal use - what we're discussing here - as is "heroin," as morphine sodium, and a host of other opiate analgesics. Stay on topic, fearmongers. - psyops, on 10/11/2007, -5/+17so where can i sign up to be a research module?
- mindstyle1, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15dasilva - they can still shoot it down... regardless, we are getting much closer to legalizing medical cannabis (as we should be). It goes to show that more people are accepting of it and realize it's probably not such a bad thing. Knowledge is power.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -6/+17burying you for taking a cool subject and using it to refer to Zelda.
- c0y0t3, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13@NikoKun
But.. your icon is a pot leaf?
I agree, though, end prohibition now! Tax it, regulate it, end the black market and free the wrongly incarcerated (possession), and remove a substantial funding source for terrorists... and eliminate about 75% of the DEA budget - warcrackhead, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12It's about time.
The DEA should never be a hindrance to scientific study. - bsiviglia9, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13What business does government have prohibiting the use of indigenous plants to begin with?
- elfprince13, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12nice to know that you guys are so good at detecting sarcasm
- Aelbric, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11I agree with you 100% and share your experience. Never touched the stuff, but believe people should have the right to have access to it. Unfortunately, someone would have to be high to think the DEA will ever consider this. It would be the like the RIAA approving of fair-use. The DEA isn't about to deprive themselves of a revenue stream.
No, this decision would have to come from Congress or probably Congress with the support of the president to make anything happen. I don't see that happening anytime soon no matter who is in power. - wakananda, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11The American Nurses Association acknowledges that medical marijuana is legitimate, and that it cannot be replaced by pharmaceutical extractives of the plant. They're right, especially in cases of chemotherapy, glaucoma and MS. For these people, it is a miracle drug.
So many lies have been told about this plant, I'm not listening anymore. No amount of helicopters, no amount of guns and stormtroopers, no amount of neighbors shot dead (whether they got the address wrong or right) will turn a lie into the truth. Read Jack Herer's "The Emperor Has No Clothes."
Continuing to lie, and to use that lie to justify the theft of people's property (to buy more guns) and the ruining of their lives and the breaking up of their families, is not only sick and wrong - it undermines the authority of legitimate law enforcement, as well as HONEST efforts to heal drug addiction. - Myonosken, on 10/11/2007, -11/+20Haha, submitted 5 hours ago and no comments.
Man we're all too stoned to press *****. - yournightmare, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10"The administrative law judge recommends that the Administrator
conclude that the marijuana plant considered as a whole has a currently
accepted medical use in treatment in the United States, that there is no
lack of accepted safety for use of it under medical supervision and that
it may lawfully be transferred from Schedule I to Schedule II. The judge
recommends that the Administrator transfer marijuana from Schedule I to
Schedule II."
--That's what DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis Young had to say in 1988. And we all see how well that worked out. - neuros, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9get a debilitating or terminal illness that causes you plenty of pain, rids you of your appetite, and gives you nausea! (one, all, or a combination, really)
after that I'm sure they'd be willing to accept you as a valid MEDICAL test patient. - asdfasdf, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11In NYC, NORML raised enough money for MTA ads depicting a picture of Mayor Bloomberg with a caption bubble reading "you bet I [inhaled], and I enjoyed it," after his own public admission. Mayor Guiliani forced the MTA to drop the ads and made pot a top priority for the NYPD. That ignorant prick caused the state millions in wasted money to "fight the pot problem." Anyway, in NY, pot is decriminalized now. You'll merely get a citation and a $100 fine for a first offense for possession < 25g.
- Coinspinner, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9@Happyscrappy:
People used to chew on willow bark for the aspirin in it.
(willow contains salicylic acid)
So not all medicine comes in pills. - theelectricafro, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9How is it still illegal when every single reason for banning it was completely false and mostly racially motivated. People needed to be lied to with propaganda films like "Reefer Madness" and with ideas that black people rape white women and kill people when the use the plant for personal reasons whatever those may be.
- wakananda, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9It's not just our business to keep government in it's legal place - as our SERVANT: "of the people, by the people and for the people" - it's our DUTY to do so.
- entropystool, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11A start but there are a lot of people who still buy in to the "Wacky Weed" infomercials from back in the day who simply won't let this go to far. I know two people who are medical marijuana users here in California who would love to see this become federal so they can travel safely.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8No we can't do this, herbs from the earth are bad, but chemically created drugs are ok! How dare you guys hate this system.
- apollo168, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Medical marijuana has helped someone I know personally treat their disabling migraines. With use of medicinal marijuana, she is now able to leave her house during daylight hours for the first time in 4 years, (sunlight is just too strong for her headache, think massive hangover...). Who knows why it works, all I know is that I've seen it literally change a young woman's life.
Oh yeah, and while we're at it can someone get us a little legalization/investigation of industrial grade hemp?
*cough cough* shameless Ron Paul plug *cough cough* - harrisbradley, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Yeah, but Anheuser-busch says no to the recommendation. That's who really makes the call.
- NikoKun, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Medical Marijuana would greatly help my grandparents, who both have Spinal Arthritis... And I have a friend with bipolar, and the pills he has to take give him horrible shakes, so he has to take pills for that too. And my dad is diabetic, and my mom has sever headaches and body pain... All these things could possibly be treated by Medical use of Cannabis. I seriously think these kind of studies need to be conducted to prove what kind of medical benefits it has.
I wont say Marijuana is the cure for everything, cause it's not... but it IS a safe alternative, that might be right for some people. It could help lots of people.
Lots of people, more than we think, are effected by this issue... - asdfasdf, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Alcohol, cocaine, heroin and meth might be, but MDMA and LSD aren't hard drugs.
- Coinspinner, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8@insaneBrain.
Sounds like your attitude would still have us be a British Colony. - Hananda, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8I doubt they'd have the funds, but I wonder what sort of effect a pro-medical marijuana advertising campaign from these private groups would have. Might get some of the more apathetic voters informed.
- Coinspinner, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8Let's all remember why Cannabis was put on Schedule I to begin with.
It was a trick from Minute I. They said, "well we don't know where it should be, so we'll put it on Schedule I and then research it". That was the only way they could get such a dishonest thing done as putting it on Sched I.
AND THEN THEY BLOCKED ALL RESEARCH.
***** dishonest criminal bastards. - snowboardfoo, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10"legaliiiize it... doooon't criticize it..."
- NikoKun, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7@C0y0t3, Yeah it is...lol
Just cause my icon is a pot leaf, doesn't mean I use pot myself.
I chose to make that my icon, because this is an important issue to me. - hoozey, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7from the article: "marijuana is the only Schedule I drug the DEA has prohibited from being produced by private laboratories for scientific research. Other controlled substances, including LSD, MDMA (also known as "Ecstasy"), heroin and cocaine, are available to researchers from DEA-licensed private laboratories."
hmm...
I guess the reason marijuana has no "proven medical value" is because the DEA won't let anyone prove it... - Coinspinner, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7What I find interesting is that the DEA isn't just blocking medical marijuana.
They are blocking RESEARCHING medical marijuana.
Gee guys, if it is so terrible what are you so afraid of?? - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9How much longer til those of us who are healthy are allowed to smoke this "marijuana" stuff?
- Rhatz, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7not only do I think marijuana should be approved for medical use it should also be approved for recreational use as well. Lets face it Prohibition does not work and it is your own body. We have the right to use a drug that don't really cause much problems compared to alcohol and other drugs. On alcohol people want to fight on pot they just want to sit there and veg out. I'm not saying all drugs should be legal just a few. Many of us suffer from depression anti depressants can take months to work (and in most cases don't work for severe depression) but pot takes seconds to work. (I know pot is a depressant) and it takes the edge of your problems. It numbs you out so that you are not so worried. Ive seen that show on TV called cops. They catch someone with a small amount of pot and say now you have to go to jail. For ***** sake go to jail over a little pot and get a criminal record for life. Then find it hard to get a job. What? over a little pot. the world governments that keep persecuting the victim are ***** morons. If soooooo many people want to get high when are people going to finally except that it is a natural human condition to want to get out off it. And start being realist on the subject.
- ozzum, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Great! Hearst manipulated the media to bring down marijuana. Glad to see that science may win over media manipulation.
Just think about how many bull stories we have been programmed to believe. I'm Thankful that web2 exists and can seperate the talk from the walk. - Aliarse, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10@ButterBuddha (#6857023)
Get a new dealer, or stop smoking that ***** soapbar. - neuros, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6@coinspinner
It's legal? Then please explain to me WHY I got arrested in Texas for possession, THROWN IN JAIL, and why I have to deal with court costs and lawyer fees. The last legal thing I did didn't come with such repercussions... - geronimo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6"Despite federal prohibition, 13 states have enacted legislation protecting patients who use medical marijuana with a physician’s recommendation from prosecution under state law, and national polls consistently find that roughly 75 percent of Americans support the use of medical marijuana."
Except the federal government doesn't care about 'state's rights' in this case. They actually prosecute Californians for medicinal marijuana use despite the fact that >50% of them approved a ballot initiative allowing it in the state of California.
And what is with disallowing research of medicinal marijuana? How can you say it has no medicinal benefits if there isn't enough research? - NikoKun, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Well, the DEA depend on prohibition, to keep their jobs, and to keep the funding coming.
The smaller police forces, make money by seizing the possessions of people they catch with Marijuana.
The Pharma companies would lose some money, if medical use was more legal, because they can't control Marijuana. People could grow their own, and people can sell it. So if it really is such a great medication and painkiller for such a wide variety of conditions, the Pharmas lose money cause their pills suck in comparison.
And to another extent, if Hemp was legal, the cotton industry would suffer, the lumber industry would suffer, and many other industries would need small changes to accommodate all the uses for Hemp. Because either u accommodate it, or the upstart companies will profit from it. Paper would greatly be effected, and profits from wood would decline... ECT...
Also, the prison industry doesn't want to lose all those 750 thousand people it gets a year. Their profits and stocks would fall greatly when more than half of their prisoners would be freed to never come back. - Coinspinner, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5@neuros:
I've been to prison over it. I have a felony. (first time offender, got a seven year sentence. the guy that went before me in court was a child molester, he got four years. Probation)
It is DE FACTO legal, not DE JURE.
I understand your frustration, but for me and you friend, there are 1000s and 1000s who don't ever get caught.
btw...'..the last legal thing I did....' was well-said, quite funny :)
I could have a pound in 30 minutes. That is de facto legal. but I certainly, certainly feel your agony. - ddxChrist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I find the prohibition of recreational marijuana detestable, but the current federal stance on medicinal marijuana is downright horrifying. Any substance with the potential for medicinal use should be studied, even if that same substance can be put to recreational use. Social stigmas shouldn't have so much clout that they hinder scientific progress.
- Coinspinner, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6@Harrisbradley.
That is so painfully true.
And they have a few friends in big Pharma and the logging industry. (in fact, "Partnership for Drug Free America" is almost entirely funded by Johnson and Johnson).
J&J makes tylenol, naaaah I'm sure that's just a HUGE coincidence. - Coinspinner, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6...yes, but the DEA can't read.
- kinesis8, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8@ magnus
Ever wonder why marijuana continually gets the bad reputation it has?
It's because of people like you.
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