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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+30My arteries have been happy since I drastically decreased my fast food frequency. I can't even remember last time I had a McBurger.
Granola FTW? - inactive, on 10/30/2007, -4/+29I hope they still taste like heart attack. That tastes good.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17I agree, and I'm a fatty. I cringe when I see a baby eating french frys, or a pudgy 5 year old with a 2x cheeseburger extra value meal. My wife and I are incorporating more organic foods into our diet and bypassing the fast food before I need a bypass myself.
- sodypop77, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15If only they could make their customers fat free.
- nnnr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13The food still tastes like *****
- doskir, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16you dare to say something against smoking and fastfood if i want to kill myself im gonna do it and you cant stop me *lights a cig and eats a burger*
- Heembo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15I love getting 2 egg McMuffins, coffee and 2 hash browns for breakfast on the way to the gym in the morning....
- AnotherName, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13i will never eat, or feed my kids this *****
- davidlow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10A good example of this technique is the labeling on Pam Cooking Spray regarding plain old fat. Even though the product is 100% pure fat, each serving contains 0 grams of fat because a serving size is less than 0.5 grams. So, rounded to the nearest whole gram it has zero grams of fat.
http://www.scientificpsychic.com/fitness/labels2.html - signal15, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11You are a dummy if you are bitching about trans fats going away. Trans fats are not fit for human consumption, we can't break them down and they go straight to your arteries. Additionally, they taste WORSE than regular oil. The only reason they are used is because they are cheap.
So, I don't get it, you are bitching because someone is making your food taste better, and be less bad for you. What's the problem?
If food manufacturers put small amounts of cyanide in their food, everyone would be up in arms to get a law passed to prevent it from happening. This is no different. - skored, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Yeah - I heard about this last night on 1010 Wins here - they said that there might not be enough oil to go around (due to their not being enough of the actual crops to make the oil from) especially now that KFC, Wendy's et al is jumping on. Might be a good time to invest in the next hot 'oil' stock :)
- coasterswim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@ Shirk
You're telling me 1,300 calories, 70 g of fat, 116 carbs, and 1,705 mg of sodium is unhealthy?! - ButchyFuego, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8My arteries are happy
- Lyght, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I still won't eat there.
- almalax19, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yea if you think that you have never taken a nutrition class in your life. Just because your not gaining weight due to a faster than average metabolism, doenst mean the fact that you are eating over 2x your daily value for fat, probably 2x your daily value of sodium and most of your daily value for carbs in one sitting is healthy. The damage you are doing to your body is just not showing up on the outside but its still there.
Calories in Calories out does not work, especially if your not running 20 miles a day. - Refrag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5BlackDigger, wasn't their first change from real animal fat to horrible partially hydrogenated trans-fat?
"Unlike other fats, trans fats are neither required nor beneficial for health."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-fat - IgnatzMouse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5McD's reply is *****. Oil is oil is oil -- except that non-trans fat oil can't sit as (ridiculously) long before it's used. It will actually now become rancid! This move will require that they schedule shipments and production of oil.
I applaud their move -- this must be akin to the proverbial turning around an aircraft carrier ...considering how much they use!!! So look for the prices to go up a bit.
** Remember those french fries at the end of "Super Size Me"? The reason they didn't decompose like everything else in his test was that they were cooked in this ***** oil -- and rendered nearly plastic! ** - RiverBelow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7But, Benjamin, I'm Canadian and most people eat once in a while @ McDonalds, but in the US its like a crazed obessession, and they have to make the McDonald's food healthier. What, 50% of Americans are obese, something needs to be done. Most people in other countries, like myself, are like you, however most Americans really are not.
- spinchange, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9i like to think of cholesterol and fat as a "protective lining" of sorts. A "coating" if you will.
- newbill123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4StealthGear: I agree with you. There is zero safe level of trans fat. My family is at particular risk for alzheimers, and I have neurologic problems taking the form of seizures and memory loss already in my mid-thirties. Though the connection isn't firm yet, I just can't take the chance that transfat really is as bad for you as some doctors claim.
I think a lot of people confuse the warnings about transfat and saturated fat, but trans fat is really a nasty, artery-clotting, brain-corroding, plaque-building, synthisized abomination. Saturated fat & cholesterol are found in nature (animal fat) and the carnivorous body can deal with these things if eaten in moderation. With transfat, there doesn't appear to be anything like moderation.
Unfortunately, the nutrition labels aren't required to label transfat levels below half a gram per serving, but that can add up to a lot since it takes so long for your body to get rid of it. I've recently taken to getting rid of products with any partially hydrogenated ingredient since that's a more reliable way to see if it might contain more transfat than the zero the nutrition label says. - Shirk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5This won't make customers fat free, but it'll make overweight people feel better knowing that the fries are cooked in trans fat free oil. Too bad that double quarter pounder, super sized fry, and super sized diet cola completely demolish anything resembling healthy in the first place.
- Benjamin2040, on 10/12/2007, -13/+16What. The. *****.
You do not go to McDonalds for healthy ***** food. You never will. I wish people would see this and quit trying to regulate everything we put into our own ***** bodies. Here in the UK, McDonalds is always fresh and hot (don't know what the hell you're talking about with 'cold and old', maybe if I try a chip that was in the car overnight...) and tastes great. I have one at most twice a week, usually once, and the rest of the time I eat perfectly normally. No not health ***** crazed, just normally. Nor do I run around like a loon at all hours of the ***** day to try and get fit. I am a normal guy and McDonalds is a great treat.
So I hope to hell they don't try anymore ***** up, health driven modifications here in the UK. Keep the salt, keep the fat. It is not healthy food!!! If you want healthy, fast food, tough *****. Healthy food cannot be done quickly, unless you like a stick of celery or bag of carrot sticks. Not that that's healthy, the only real way to eat healthily is to have a balanced, regular diet. Something you can do perfectly well having a McDonalds every now and again. Unless of course you don't want to/don't like McDonalds... In which case what the ***** are you doing trying to corrupt our food!!! - hobbers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3In California, Nevada, and Arizona they have In-n-Out, a privately owned burger chain. If you're ever out there, give them a try. They cut their potatoes and fry them as you order, so they are about the freshest fries you will ever have. Sometimes when I get my fries, they are so freaking hot because they just came out, and you have to let them cool for 30 seconds or so. And they cook their fries in regular old 100% vegetable oil.
I'm actually really surprised that any McDonalds within a mile or two of an In-n-Out does any business at all. The same freshness policy for their fries applies to their whole menu. Once you try In-n-Out, McDonalds probably tastes like trash. - Wolfie351, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7As a food manufacturer, let me just say the whole trans fats thing is getting out of hand. First of all, all you greedy MFers (jokingly) out there demand low prices. If that wasn't the case, every restaurant and food company would be using pure butter and all natural ingredients for their products. But, since the typical american would rather have low prices than quality food, hydrogenated oils, margarine, preservatives, etc are used. Now, all us people in the food business are being treated almost criminally for providing food that people wanted this whole time. If you don't like the trans-fat laden french fries at McD, then don't go there!!!!!!! (no, I don't work for them) The ironic thing is, people are going to see "trans-fat free" on the label and then stuff themselves with it thinking they are eating healthy. Kind of like people who order salads then dump half the bottle of dressing on it.
My point is, demand drives company's products. Until late 2005, people were happy with what they had and then we learned about the new issue. 2006 was the first year we even had to put trans fats on the nutritional label. Trans fats are definitely unhealthy and all foods that do contain it should never have been consumed in large amounts in the first place! Now, the industry is moving towards getting rid of it. It is a slow process and right now there is very little in terms of substitutes that have suitable flavor and is equivalent in price. It'll take another year or two to get there. - seanhive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3the whole point is not to eat the fries at all. you fatty fat fatties.
- spookyttws, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@Wolfie351 I totally agree, trans fats are bad for you in LARGE quantities, but if you eat a few Oreos a year, it really doesn't affect you. Look into it, I myself don't really like fast food, but maybe 3 times a month I grab some fries. Everything is fine in MODERATION!
- GrimRage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2For me, the level of salt is always widely variable. One time, the fries will be extra salty, and then the next time, hardly any salt at all. I mainly just wish they would always cook them fresh to order instead of giving out product that is far past the recommended holding times.
But you're right, too much salt is a bitch. You can always add more, but there's no way to get rid of too much. - IgnatzMouse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ted Nuget -- is that you?
- killercow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You know why people (especially americans it seems) need to be regulated?
Because you might only go 4 times a year, there are millions of people who would go a couple of times each week, if there would be no discussion about mc donalds food being bad for you if over used. (i remember people suing mc donalds for growing fat because they didn't know (again only in the states))
If the government didn't regulate things, people would all smoke, drink and eat to much (all of which kills you before your time)
If the government didn't regulate things, people would stop their car on the train tracks, cause they didnlt know, put their kids in the microwave because they didn't know, and would work with 110V's without turning the power off.
Im not saying you would, but im sure there's a million dumb souls in the U.s.a who would.
And don't say it ain't so, remember the adverts for smoking in which it was actually be sold as something healthy and sporty? people didn;t know it killed them by the dozens, but it did feel good, and look fashionable. - carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i found some old mc'fries under the seat of an old car that were probably under there for several years. They looked the same as if they were under there for a day.
- inferno10, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm probably being a stickler here, but even though a product may say no trans fat, heating the oil and reactions with the ingredients could still produce some trans fats.
- IvanB, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I'm sure they're not going to start using it any time soon.
- Refrag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Do the buns have sucralose, aspartame, or high fructose corn syrup in them? I'd rather have sugar.
- aaarrrgh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Due to Danish regulations, McDonalds had to remove most of the trans-fats from their food here, a while ago. While I don't personally at McDonalds, and therefore can't be the judge, most people claim it hasn't changed the taste at all.
link to article: http://archive.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=118765
I actually think it was on digg a while ago. - Calculon64, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4It better not taste different!
- JavertHolmes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What I love is people who eat unhealthier crap at restaurants thinking they're so much healthier than fast food goers. Most chefs I know put a ton of butter, cream, and/or salt in their recipes because they know in the end that that's what satisfies people the most and gets them coming back. If they ever made truly healthy food -- say, grilled unsalted, unbuttered vegetables with a side of a *small* portion of unsalted, unbuttered meat with a non-cream based sauce, not all that many people would come back to the restaurant.
If you go to a restaurant and start with a cream of mushroom soup, followed by a golden curry dish laden with coconut milk or a risotto cooked lazily by having cream added to it, followed by a creme brulee or a mousse, I'd argue that you're not eating all that much better than a combo at McDonald's. - tmcdigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Trans-fat(s) are the tip of the head of a pin on top the the ice burgh of the poison you put in your body at McDonalds, Taco Bell, Jack in the Box or any fast food place these days..
- Refrag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yes, changing the oil in your car can improve its performance.
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/first_drive.php?sid=105&page=1 - DuffDemon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I think they should be more concerned with not soaking their food in salt to the point you feel sick after eating it. Thats far worse then what type of oil they use.
- hoowahman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I swear they are already doing this on the fries. Maybe I go to a test McDonalds.
- sremick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Except you can't deep-fry in olive oil since it has too low of a smoke point.
- VioletArrows, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Because I'm not allowed to have a lot of salt, whenever I get something that's been overdone, I roll it around in a napkin (or 5 XP) and that picks up some of the salt and grease. Can't get rid of all of it, though. T_T
- asdfasdf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I was too slim before but now i am little bit fat because of these fast food. Even if there is written that its trans-fat-free how it is possible there are many stuff on which it is labeled that it is sugar free and fat free but there tastes is same as the real onces. So it is not possible that any thing is fat free. One more thing that one of my friend visit Pakistan before 5 months ago and she told me a news about McDonalds. She told me that in Islamabad two people died after eating there ***** nasty food. So i advise you people don't go to that ***** McDonalds and save your money as well as your health.
- moovitz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Horray! At last, i'm FREE! Now i have absolutely no excuse to ever to go McDonalds again!
- bluetrevian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Burger King is up to the same deal:
http://www.digg.com/business_finance/Burger_King_gets_progressive_with_Trans_Fat_Free_Cooking_Oils_LATE_2008 - killercow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Same here,
There's actually very good tasting salad dishes (yes, just salad and chicken), Not that any american would ever try and eat that, god beware any one of their friends would spot them having a decent meal that would actually be good for them.. - nwkeeley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What do you think the impact will be of McDonald's switching to Trans-Fat-Free Oils?
http://www.pollburner.com/takePoll.php?id=7c0d8eda99f7 - killercow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2How does a cleaner cooking oil make fries taste worse, im sure mc donals will figure this out before decreasing the "sensation" (yeah right) to its millions of dumb followers who'd be offended by a taste change.
If you don't want a couple of people (eg, mc donalds management) to decide what you do and don't eat, go eat at a local restaurant instead.
As i see it, mc donalds management is selecting the food that a few billion people eat every year, so quit whining about a few people who actually care about what they get to eat. - killercow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thing is,
Years of research is *****, They have been using trans-fat-free (even 100% vegetable oil) @ dutch mc donalds shops exclusively now for year.
Furthermore, all Mc donals recycle/garbage trucks (yes they are special big rigs with loose compartments for all waste types), drive on the used cooking oil instead of diesel. - Sargos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just so you know, Atkins was not killed by his diet.
He slipped on a patch on ice and went into a coma. He died of kidney failure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Atkins_%28nutritionist%29#Death -
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