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- Thrilltone, on 06/22/2008, -3/+20Yeah, she's fat because she constantly leptin that carton of Breyers
- orgazmo, on 06/22/2008, -0/+15So she went on a diet, lost weight, then went back to her old lifestyle that caused her to be overweight and gained the weight back? Shocker
- HayString, on 06/22/2008, -1/+15The only real way to be able to keep the weight off is to change your lifestyle.
- fr3ddie, on 06/22/2008, -4/+18Diet and exercise DO NOT WORK.... but theres plenty of prescription drugs that work great!!!....
/sarcasm - flickr, on 06/22/2008, -0/+11And while we're complaining about lazy fat people, don't you hate science and the understanding of the world that it brings us?
- GiggleStick, on 06/22/2008, -0/+8Well, once I started looking at the way fat people I knew ate, I realized they were eating 3 times or more food than I was. That's the explanation. Why they do it, I don't know. I enjoy food, but although I'm not very physically active, I'm very mentally active. I can't eat too much because I don't have time, because I need to do something all the time. Plus to me, the problems of not being able to walk or move around far outweigh any pleasure I can get from food.
- ReDoEr, on 06/22/2008, -0/+5I've fought the fat a few times over the years, and I found it had a lot less to do with low Leptin levels and a lot more to do with high sit-on-my-ass-in-a-cubicle-and-eat-donuts levels.
It's very simple: calories burned per day > calories consumed per day = weight loss. - invidious, on 06/22/2008, -0/+5Thyroid hormone has many functions, and some of them modulate your basal metabolic rate. For example, thyroid hormone can stimulate cells to produce Na+/K+ ATPases, which consume energy (ATP). This is a gross oversimplification, but thyroid hormone generally causes your body to favor catabolic pathways over anabolic pathways, which causes you to lose weight. Ergo people with hyperthyroid conditions tend to have (unintentional) weight loss in spite of increased appetites, and people with hypothyroid conditions often gain weight.
If you're gaining weight, then energy input > energy output. In this case, energy output is in fact decreasing, and so there is no violation of the law of conservation of energy. - Xihix, on 06/22/2008, -0/+4I know what this thing means. I've been plateauing for three weeks now at 140 lb after six months of pretty constant weight loss of 1-2 pounds a week, after starting at 196 lb. A few nutritionist buddies of mine have told me my leptin levels are probably in the crappy right now. And what do they suggest? A cheat meal. Yeah, they say to eat more than you would normally eat for one meal every week or two, which should help with the slowed down leptin level. Hopefully it works out, going to try it tomorrow.
- Ellipsys, on 06/22/2008, -0/+4All the more reason to move away from high fructose corn syrup - It messes with leptin levels, which inhibits the ability of your system to say "Hey, dumbass. Put down the fried chicken. You're full"Thus, 100 calories of a cane sugar or agave nectar based drink will equal 100 calories, but 100 calories of a HFCS sweetened beverage will at times compel you to eat 300 more calories, since you don't feel full or sated. http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/79/4/537 .
- BDOUG, on 06/22/2008, -0/+4Articles like this always bring out the 'eat less exercise more' police. Yes, we all know that eating less and exercising more is the key to losing weight. The question why is it so difficult for some people to keep the weight off after they've lost it? They go back to old habits, true. But there's a lot at play more than just "being lazy, and I feel so superior calling you that". Whether the fatty bashing douchebags want to accept it or not, genetics, hormones, psychology, culture, etc all play a role. Losing weight is simple. However, it is not EASY for some people. In fact it's very difficult for them. Simple and easy are not equivalent concepts. I wonder how many of these jerks who bash fatties all day long smoke, drink too much, etc. Obviously some of them have superiority complexes that need to be addressed. The answer to stop being a douchebag is "simple", too: stop masking their own shortcomings by belittling others. Now, let's see how "easy" it is for them to put this into action.
- idontlikeyou2, on 06/22/2008, -0/+4Thats because the law of conservation of energy was never broken. The body never expanded more energy than it has taken because with certain medical conditions, the amount of energy used varies, so even if someone eats alot less (but still a "healthy" amount), the body is able to regulate the amount of energy burnt.
- inactive, on 06/22/2008, -2/+5He's talking about fat.
And he's right. A thyroid disorder won't help you lose weight but you actually have to eat more than you burn to be fat.
So if you have thyroid disorder but actually eat healthy, you can't be fat.
Your body can't invent fat. It can turn carbohydrates into fat and it can store actual fat, but it can't produce fat out of thin air.
Thyroid disorders just make you hungry, they don't make you produce fat from vegetables and they don't prevent you from burning the fat by exercizing.
The most extreme case I've seen was an Ironman contestant who was obese. But that was because of a genetic predisposition. His minimal healthy fat content was obese. If he got leaner he was basically malnourished. But we're talking about a one in a million condition. - dha07030, on 06/22/2008, -0/+3Yeah I never understood how if you burn more energy then you comsume you could still not lose weight. Being active uses energy simple as that.
- davidhallstrom, on 06/21/2008, -2/+5Thanks for the information.
- dimebonics, on 06/22/2008, -0/+3Just a FYI: Adderall is great for appetite suppression... and it also works wonders if you hate your job!
- furi0us1, on 06/22/2008, -2/+5It's cute how all the armchair physiologists and fatty-bashers come out of the woodwork on articles like this.
The fact that there isn't a simple pill yet that will allow people to lose weight with no extra effort is evidence enough that the fat accumulation/losing process is extremely complex. - priegog, on 06/22/2008, -0/+3BA-DUM PSHT
- inactive, on 06/22/2008, -6/+8Kind of off topic, but I heard this today, and it pisses me off.
This woman blamed some medical condition, like a thyroid disorder for the reason she can't shed her weight, no matter how much she diets. To be fair, she was eating a salad and not a big mac, this time...
Anyways, I've heard this many times on the interweb and in real life, but scientists should really take a look at these people, because their bodies have managed to break law of conservation of energy. They either found a way to function without burning energy, or their bodies have managed to find a way to create energy out of nothing or they're just taking in more calories than they are burning. - renegadeafk, on 06/22/2008, -0/+2I lol'd
- siandt, on 06/22/2008, -0/+2Where can I get me some of these leptins? Frozen foods section? And can we add them to ice cream?
Right, I feel fat just writing that. I'm going for a run. - jayb1rd, on 06/22/2008, -0/+2As someone who suffers from hypothyroid, it's not true that all thyroid disorders make you hungry. The medication that I'm on, however, has two main side effects: weight loss and increased appetite.
- steech, on 06/22/2008, -0/+2Good info, unfortunately the writer of the article misinterpreted the results. The problem is not that these people have LOW levels of leptin, the problem is their cells do not USE leptin efficiently.
The reason for this is the same as in type 2 diabetes where the are sufficient amounts of insulin, but the number hormone receptors for insulin have been reduced (insulin resistance).
Actually, you will find HIGHER levels of leptin in the bloodstream of obese people compared to thinner people because the number of leptin receptors on the cells have been reduced and the hormone stays in the bloodstream, essentially unused.
FYI. - yomamaphat, on 06/22/2008, -2/+4Get more exercise and stop eating so much if you're fat.
- MindTrigger, on 06/22/2008, -0/+2You really have to change your whole mindset. Think of food as fuel and stop using it as a source of comfort or activity.
- iamafatguy, on 06/22/2008, -0/+2Mangosteen is *****.
- inactive, on 06/22/2008, -0/+2I thought it said "Led Zeppelin levels".
- expo1001, on 06/23/2008, -0/+2RTFA. They do not say that diet and exercise don't work, they are saying that after fat people diet and exercise, and subsequently LOOSE WEIGHT, that they have an increased chance of gaining said weight back due to low leptin levels.
- 1053r, on 06/22/2008, -0/+2actually, while you are pretty close to the mark here, you lose on one account. HFCS is bad because of the F (fructose). Fructose is processed by the liver like ethanol (booze). Agave syrup is all fructose, so while it might have some nice vitamins and minerals, it's basically worse than HFCS. Cane sugar is sucrose, which is a molecule made of one glucose and one fructose. What you really want is a grain derived sweetener like rice syrup, light corn syrup, or malted barley, because that is a pure glucose source.
I switched away from fructose sources and lost 10 pounds while actually exercising less. My energy levels are up also. Fructose is what messes with your leptin levels. Glucose might mess with your insulin levels, but long term, even diabetics are probably better off with grain based sweeteners, since long glucose chains take a long time to break down into pure glucose (so grain based sweeteners tend to have a low glycemic index like fructose), but it doesn't mess with your liver.
No more fruit juice. No more soda. No more sweets (except the delicious ones you make yourself with grain sweeteners). Try it for a month. Eat as much as you want. Of anything you want except for fructose (and booze). If you don't lose weight, you didn't need to, cheated, or have a 1 in a million metabolic disorder. - priegog, on 06/22/2008, -0/+1Seeing the author of the study, I woudn't want to live in the same town town this was done in.
/obscurish reference and hope that someone else gets it - inactive, on 06/22/2008, -0/+1It doesn't matter how well your body absorbs energy.
You need to absorb more than you need for your body to store it. Otherwise it's used.
If I need to eat a fig a day to get enough energy, I should eat a fig a day. Not burgers. - ogloom, on 06/22/2008, -0/+1Thanks for your input. Next time, try using science instead of *****. Thanks
- diggdong, on 06/22/2008, -0/+1Clearly you have had too much tea.
- beowabbit, on 06/22/2008, -1/+2Different people vary a lot in how efficient they are at extracting energy from food and how efficient they are in using energy. Snakes can live for months on a single meal; humans need to eat at least several times a week, and some animals basically need to eat constantly. The differences between individual humans aren't nearly as dramatic, but they are there. The amount of energy I get from cheezburger may not be the same as the amount of energy you get from cheezburger, and the amount of energy I expend riding Invisible Bicycle for 20 minutes may not be the same as the amount of energy you expend riding Invisible Bicycle for 20 minutes. And thyroid levels have a lot to do with that.
- korvan504521, on 06/22/2008, -0/+1the cells that remain however will still expand given a continued increased consumption level.
- joemofo214, on 06/22/2008, -3/+4wanna know how? put the fork down, keep it down.
advice from the fat guy - TheSwashbuckler, on 06/22/2008, -0/+1Most cosmetic surgeons won't do liposuction to simply lose weight. Most of the time, that much fat isn't removed anyway.
- sixsicsix, on 06/23/2008, -0/+1
"It's very simple: calories burned per day > calories consumed per day = weight loss."
there's a lot more to it than that, i've lost a huge amount of weight through diet and exercise, and i can guarantee you that it takes far less than 3500 extra calories to add a single pound. - burnnbuild, on 11/24/2008, -0/+1You can also visit http://burnfatnbuildmuscle.blogspot.com for great advice
- jayb1rd, on 06/22/2008, -0/+1It's not all about energy, either. Ever heard of nutrition? You wouldn't get all the nutrients you need from "a fig a day." There is way too much focus on fat and calories when it comes to nutrition...there is a lot more to being healthy than that.
- phone_pimp, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1A change in lifestyle and a lot of discipline and motivation can help you lose weight.
- ShadowBlitz, on 06/24/2008, -0/+1So we shouldn't eat fruit either? Most fruits are roughly half glucose/half fructose with some sucrose (which is the same ration) thrown in as well. Fructose only becomes a problem in excess.
And I can't believe that diabetics would be better off with glucose, long chains or not. They'd probably be better off without any kind of sweetener. We don't need to find good sweetener substitutions, but to cut them out. - priegog, on 06/22/2008, -0/+1being one with a BMI og
- inactive, on 06/23/2008, -0/+1Apparently I have.
- beauley, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Man has long searched for the cup of fountain of youth, or life in an earth paradise without worry about money and disease. We all wish this were possible, but reality beckons and we must all reach some reasonable compromise.
http://www.healthmad.com/Nutrition/The-Ideal-Diet. ...
The Ideal Diet - inactive, on 06/23/2008, -0/+1Yeah but there's nothing else to being fat than that.
- michellephilips, on 08/06/2008, -0/+0people believe the hype of most diets. thats the problem. They think by eating the food presented to them they will have a six pack in two weeks. you can laugh but some people actually believe that.
http://www.how-to-lose-weight-quickly.co.nr - netgeek06, on 06/22/2008, -1/+1Good Find. Thanks for sharing.
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