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- acormon, on 08/20/2008, -3/+87It's sad it's taken 40 years for science to realize what science already knew.
- Violent, on 08/20/2008, -5/+69The last time a generation had access to LSD, culture, music and ingenuity broke loose - what would be the effects of LSD to unlock the minds of the masses in today's society? I think it could potentially be even more disruptive to the status quo than we saw in its heyday. Taken in a proper setting, with experienced people to calm and head off a bad trip, the drug can be a very enlightening experience.
- DeskFlyer, on 08/21/2008, -9/+65Acid is my favorite drug. Acid expanded my mind. Because of acid I know that butter is way better than margarine. I saw through the *****.
- MasterPlayer, on 08/21/2008, -9/+59Let's not get carried away now, first let's get marijuana legalized nationwide first, then we'll work on LSD.
- NotOptium, on 08/21/2008, -6/+55"And I'm glad mushrooms are illegal. Because you know what happened when I took 'em? I laid in a field of green grass for four hours going, 'My God, I love everything.' The heavens parted, and God rained gifts of forgiveness onto my being, healing my psychically, physically, and emotionally. I realized that our true nature was spirit not body; that it is only an illusion that we are separate from God or that we are alone. The reality is that we are at one with God and he loves us.
Now if that's not a danger to society...
I mean, how are we gonna keep building nuclear weapons? What's gonna happen to the arms industry once we realize that we're all one? It's gonna ***** up the economy! The economy that's FAKE anyway!"
Bill Hicks - 1ncu3us, on 08/21/2008, -5/+47Hallucinogens.. the fast forward button for evolution
- ParkourRunner, on 08/21/2008, -5/+37News Flash: Tripping balls can keep you sane
- Iztikeit, on 08/21/2008, -3/+32It does make sense. Psychiatrists and have yelling at the top of their lungs about how useful hallucinogenic drugs can be to all sorts of mental illnesses and mental habits (smoking, things like that).
I would take it a bit further and say hallucinogenic drugs are one of the most useful natural products throughout human history.
Reading a book can change your perception about something, but hallucinogenic drugs can kick your ass, throw you out of yourself and show you that you really know absolutely nothing and every mental construct you can conceive is an illusion, in ways reading just can't.
And folks I'm not just tooting my own horn. This isn't my "opinion" here. There was once a reason that the Shaman was considered a crucial member to almost every society. They didn't keep them around because they were primitive morons. Unrelated and unconnected cultures all over the world had deep shamanic practices running throughout.
Well that was quite the tangent, but talk of hallucinogenics always perks my interest because they are so misunderstood.
Remember, the mushroom knows you better than you do. - dhVyse, on 08/21/2008, -4/+27I truly believe shrooms and LSD can cure alot of emmotional "disabilities". It sort of lets you know who you are and what your insecurities are, and just by knowing that you can learn to face your fears much easier. I can attest (and my friends also) to my 3 experiences making me a much more friendlier and open person.
- spyd3rweb, on 08/21/2008, -4/+26Why is it illegal, can anyone tell me?
- GastricContents, on 08/21/2008, -1/+18Well, chispito, you have to understand that Acid is a gateway. Not a "gateway drug" mind you, but a gateway through which one can pass upon usage of the drug. It can alter your outlook on life permanently, as it has for me, for the better. You do not have to continue to take acid if you don't want to, but you will still carry those experiences which shape one's outlook.
Also, that ***** can be ***** exhausting, so it's understandable why one my lay off for a while. - lead2thehead, on 08/21/2008, -0/+17Careful doing that when you're depressed. That's when bad trips happen.
- D3koy, on 08/21/2008, -1/+17Take your crazy drugs...I'll relieve stress like everyone else, masturbating...
- iLEZ, on 08/21/2008, -0/+16To quote the dead hero Bill Hicks:
Wouldn't you like to see a positive LSD story on the news? To hear what it's all about, perhaps? Wouldn't that be interesting? Just for once?
"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration … that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
/endquote
Anything that opens the human mind up that far to show all that cannot be made legal if you plan on keeping humanity in check. That goes for all psychedelic drugs. Alcohol just makes you stupid => no problem:
Quote:
"Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control. Here's Love Connection. Watch this and get fat and stupid. By the way, keep drinking beer, you ***** morons." - shinon, on 08/21/2008, -0/+15I used to do drugs....I still do drugs, but I used to, too.
- thebrinkman, on 08/21/2008, -5/+18Nixon is spinning in his grave. I hope his corpse catches fire from the friction. Its thanks to his administration that two hits of acid can win you felonious conspiracy against the government. Even he knew that LSD can chew through the toughest of *****, whether its culturally imposed or internally self-defeating.
- digiguy, on 08/21/2008, -0/+12I took LSD and learned that we are all puppets on an invisible string
- Jiuzton, on 08/21/2008, -1/+13I love LSD.
- seventhc, on 08/21/2008, -0/+11The u.s government dabbled in it too. Who do you think Timothy Leary got it from? When Timothy Leary first gave students LSD, that was gov't issue LSD. Where do you think Ken Kesey got it from? He was a test subject and stole some for himself.
The government project name:
MKULTRA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKULTRA - flyineye, on 08/21/2008, -3/+14Whats wrong with stirring up the status quo? American society needs a good kick in the nads imo. For God sakes man, Bush got 2 terms. That's worse than any bad trip I ever had.
- Jacare, on 08/21/2008, -0/+11Science never forgot how useful psychedelics are. the real reason they were banned was because Timothy Leary went and told everyone to use them, and some people had bad trips and injured and/or killed them selfs or thought they could fly. that combined with society's negative view of hippie culture made the politicians jump on board the wagon to BanHammer psychedelics.
the Psychiatric Community had clearly defined procedures for administering LSD (very peaceful setting, classical music, a nurse and psychiatrist would be present through whole experience (the psychiatrist was their for the therapy part, and they would both be trained to deal with and bring someone back from a bad trip. the experience would last 6 hours and you would stay at the facility over night for safety reasons) as you can well imagine when the mass public gained access to LSD few if any of those procedures were followed.
One thing most people don't know about LSD is that one of its first uses was to give psychiatrists a better understanding of what their Schizophrenic patients were going through. LSD also showed promise in therapy. with patients under LSD and trained Psychiatrists present, patients would make breakthroughs in mere hours that would have taken years of regular therapy to achieve. LSD also showed promise as a tool to help with addiction in various trials.
But with the ban on psychedelics all research came to a grinding halt and still to this day has not regained its steam. 40 years without any research into the subject has probably cost millions of lives.
and another thing a hallucination is when you see something that isn't real (we're talking flying pink elephants that talk to you not funny colored stereo equipment) and 85% of street LSD is of extremely poor quality and sometimes has other things mixed in...
for anyone looking for a better understanding of LSD i would recommend watching the documentary "Hofmann's Potion" - hwelsh, on 08/21/2008, -0/+11you're missing the point. the society we live in now is a brave new world. we are forced to work to power a machine we may not support, and when we feel horrible about it, we are prescribed anti-depressants to flatten our moods and make us oblivious to our pitiful existence. the world of currently legalized drugs is a brave new world, this illegal drug will make life less like a huxley fantasy.
- KloroFormd, on 08/21/2008, -2/+13R.I.P. Mitch. :'(
- Actual223, on 08/21/2008, -1/+11Bill Hicks was indeed the man.
- rmmcclay, on 08/21/2008, -0/+10There's a lot of misinformation and fact mixed in with a range of opinions on this Digg thread about LSD.
My opinion is that LSD is worthy of further research and should be re-classified to allow such research to be engaged.
I've mentioned here before, when Dr. Albert Hoffman died, that I was glad he was a friend of mine and that we had a nice chat two weeks before he departed this world.
His book, LSD: My Problem Child, is freely available on the internet. In it he describes his hope that research would continue. Personally he considered it a very powerful spiritual tool for a modern world much in need of such things. - Tyrghast, on 08/21/2008, -2/+12It's the drugs that remind us how hard we're getting ***** in the ass that are illegal
-Bill Hicks - NotOptium, on 08/21/2008, -3/+13You're an idiot.
- Iztikeit, on 08/21/2008, -0/+10Dugg, for great truth and Bill Hicks. One of the few to reach the spotlight that had a pure heart.
- d3sapar3cid0, on 08/21/2008, -4/+13There are far too many people who just fall back on their own stereotypes of what drugs are and what acid is. If you haven't done it, don't think you know at all what the effects are like. I can honestly say they are nothing at all close to what the media has ever portrayed them to be. It's about as close as the pink elephant they used to show alcoholics seeing.
It's also worth mentioning that there isn't a single well documented case of someone dying from LSD. LSD has led people into unfortunate situations of accidental death, suicide or homicide, but that number isn't even a fraction of the number of similar cases that alcohol has induced. - Tyrghast, on 08/21/2008, -0/+9CUS OF THE DAMN HIPPIES!!! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!
- flashback99, on 08/21/2008, -0/+9Religion is the rewind button
- Cyberchair, on 08/21/2008, -3/+12It has already been documented that LSD trips can help with depression. I've taken it once and it made me see things much more rationally after the trip. I think it's something everyone should try once in a safe environment.
- Neiliosullivan, on 08/21/2008, -0/+9Just like any drug you become tolerant to it's effects so you up the dosage. Granted I didn't eat whole sheets very often, as you have to dedicate at least a week to the experience.
As to exercise triggering flashbacks, I've noticed that tracers are more common while the body is very hot, i.e. after a workout ect. Also when I'm VERY tired like after a few days of a 12 hour swing shift (yay for factory work?).. - Empure, on 08/21/2008, -2/+11You are absolutely right. My personal experience with LSD began in January, and after having taken only about a dozen trips I feel like a happier, more caring, and more open-minded person. Where once I was depressed and self-loathing, I now think highly of life, myself, and everyone around me, and have been inspired to try and join the Peace Corps, volunteer, and help others as much as possible.
The thing to always remember with drugs (and nearly everything in life) is that none of them are inherently "evil." Any drug can be good or bad. It all depends on how you use it.
Think of it this way, when someone gets in a car accident, you never blame the car for what happened. You blame the irresponsible driver. It is the same with drugs. They can be used for the wrong reasons and therefore become dangerous, or they can be used for good reasons and become tools for healing, but each person makes that choice.
For me, I would not give up my LSD experiences for anything. No anti-depressant can match the effects of one good trip, and I wish more people understood the beauty of the chemical. - praderwilli, on 08/21/2008, -2/+11Wow, I did a term paper on the medical use of LSD back in 98. As I recall Canada had used LSD to treat people with psychological conditions up till the mid 80's with great success before it was considered a "bad" drug and banned.
In fact I remember one story were a man had habitually beaten his wife for a period of around 10 years until one night when his wife had enough and called the cops. Guy was arrested and had the choice of either going to jail or try a new "medical procedure" to cure him of his rage. Dude chose the procedure and was put in a small white room with just a table, chair and a cup of water containing enough LSD 25 to geek a bull.
After about 15 minutes the guy started showing symptoms of a full blown trip, at that point one doctor walked into the room with an envelope full of pictures of his wife and kids. He flipped thru the family photos and talked to the man about how happy his family looked in the photos and how lucky he was to have them. The man agreed and exclaimed his love for his wife and kids. The doctor then pulled out photos the cops had taken of his wife after he had beaten her to a pulp. The man broke down to near hysterics and never touched his wife again.
LSD is an ego eraser. I cant imagine the success it have being used on violent criminals. - Actual223, on 08/21/2008, -4/+12Doesn't the issue of drugs show crystal clearly that our political leaders dont give a damn about us?
It literally trying to convice someone the sky is up, but they just wont pass the law saying it.... - d3sapar3cid0, on 08/21/2008, -3/+11Not the best argument when you look at the effects of alcohol or tobacco. A bad night vs death or cancer.
- Iztikeit, on 08/21/2008, -0/+8Hallucinogens ARE a conspiracy against the government, because they can allow even the most average of minds to see through *****.
Cleansing your third eye is the ultimate conspiracy against the government.
It's not right, but the institution cannot have people running around with their third eyes all ablaze. People might start to suspect they are being raped. - inactive, on 08/21/2008, -1/+9Acid is much harder to obtain now than it was in the 60s (for the most part). It can still be found in certain areas at certain times, but nothing like it was in the 60's and 70's. That is the reason I stopped taking it. I wish I knew where to find it nowadays...
The number of "loser freaks" comment was just stupid. - flyineye, on 08/21/2008, -3/+11I'm shocked that there are so many informed and knowledgeable comments about LSD here. Obviously many of these people have experienced it because there is no way you could understand it if you haven't. It can be a powerful tool if used correctly. Like any powerful tool it can cause damage if used incorrectly, but that damage is not a good enough reason to keep it from being used. People get killed by cars everyday, yet we don't ban them. When it was used legally, people were cured of many psychological problems, including alcoholism. There is plenty of documented proof. It's great to see an intelligent discussion subject and not just a bunch of scared nay sayers, who have never experienced it and blindly buy into the propaganda. Maybe if we give it a new name like Triptanol or something like that, people would be more open to it. Anyways, cheers to all the educated comments here.
- GastricContents, on 08/21/2008, -3/+10Sorry to break your balls on this, but even from a strictly chemical aspect, acid aids in brain activity and chemical releases far more than any book. I'll take acid over ink on my paper 8 days a week.
But books are cool, too. - Iztikeit, on 08/21/2008, -1/+8The thing about hallucinogens that makes them so useful for mental medicinal purposes is that they know you better than you know yourself. Think about that for a second.
These drugs don't merely cover up the problems, like most conventional anti-psychotic drugs, they address the problems head on. Of course, there can be plenty of negative affects derived from misuse and misunderstanding.
And who do we put in charge to wield the power of altered perceptions? The psychiatrists? Has anyone been to a psychiatrist? Most have no idea how to approach things outside of a text book and few should be given the authority over these tools, at present anyway. Someday the field of psychiatry might be ready to take on these tools but at the moment I doubt very many would utilize them very successfully.
The answer to all of this is the Shaman, but modern culture has made them unnecessary. There is a reason Shamanism was a cultural mainstay for TENS OF THOUSANDS of years and across almost every culture on the planet, even unrelated ones. It has nothing to do with religion and superstitions. - marshallpeck, on 08/21/2008, -0/+7Hooray to that!
- lukedamonkey, on 08/21/2008, -9/+16LSD and ecstasy can be great for therapists to help people. Too bad they will never be legalized for therapists due to the drug war.
- seventhc, on 08/21/2008, -1/+8Alcohol is the gateway drug if there is such a thing. I took alcohol long before I found the good stuff.
- Neiliosullivan, on 08/21/2008, -5/+11I took WAY too much acid in my day, and frankly I'm sort of bummed out that I've yet to experience any sort of "flash back" or anything. The most I get is some tracers every once in a while when something moves across my vision quickly. This is the only side effect so far from eating whole sheets at a time, and I'm not talking about that white blotter crap.
I could see how it would be useful as a therapy tool in VERY low doses. Also it's a proven CURE (not treatment, cure) for alcoholism. I'd think that it'd be a handy dieting tool as well since the last thing you want to do is eat while tripping.
http://psychcentral.com/news/2006/10/09/can-lsd-cu ... - TurnipFarm, on 08/21/2008, -4/+10So many are so ignorant.
- leontes, on 08/21/2008, -4/+10Visualization, creative arts therapy, deep meditation, psychodrama and other forms of safely accessing surplus-reality do exist. These are therapeutic tools that can help folks reach a similiar place without the aid of the hodgepodge dangerous hallucinagenic effect that comes from such drugs like LSD and shrooms.
Regardless, one thing to keep in mind: using something that can access the unconscious without careful guidance and processing can be therapeutic but it is no way guaranteed. Indeed, it can be dangerous, retraumatizing or unsafe. Usually, close supervision, by a therapist or someone who has had psychotherapuetic training is quite necessary for something to be done is a safe and responsible manner. Surgery is freakin' powerful and can fix stuff, but you wouldn't want just to open yourself with a knife and have at it on your own, though, would you? - GastricContents, on 08/21/2008, -1/+7I rarely, if ever, digg comments, but that is one excellent comment, sir!
- ModernChem, on 08/21/2008, -2/+8dude, if california does what I think its gonna do, i'm packing my bags and heading out californi way
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