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- ovejeromd, on 10/12/2007, -4/+63Morgellons is a series of tubes!
- robbh66, on 10/12/2007, -3/+39Creepy? Odd? Bizarre?
This is obviously a case for Dr. Gregory House. - BadassCheese, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28***** bird flu, i want immunization from this.
- chthonic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24and pictures to boot
http://www.morgellons.org/images.html - p9s50W5k4GUD2c6, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24This story has been gaining steam in the last few months - it is horrific enough to experience this physically (with all the fears associated with an unknown condition and an unknown fate). The story of this pediatrician provided them needed credibility (the black light technique may have helped as well).
But what makes this even worse is being labeled as mentally deficient and writing it off as an imaginary condition.
What a horrible double-burden to bear.
What IS cool, however, is that these people got so pissed off that they sidestepped ALL of their 'physicians' and went directly to the CDC. I hope they find a way to help these folks... - Ruckus21, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23This is what Google has been doing with all of that dark fiber. These people are being turned into mobile wireless hot spots.
- aniruhama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18first person account with pictures at http://www.dpref.com/
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19"What IS cool, however, is that these people got so pissed off that they sidestepped ALL of their 'physicians' and went directly to the CDC. I hope they find a way to help these folks..."
If you read TFA, you'll notice that the CDC has been blowing these people off left and right. So, I don't think they really give a damn about helping these people. - jjesusfreak01, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17I was watching a show on incredible medical cases the other day, and there was this girl who was swearing that there were bugs in her scalp. The ER doctor was extremely skeptical, but then he saw bubbles come out of her head, and then the head of an insect. He was able to pull them out, but im not sure he ever figured out exactly what they were.
The interesting thing about that case is that the doctor couldnt tell her, "Its all in your head", because she would just say, "I know! Get it out!".
It would really stink though for the doctors to disbelieve you just because it isnt an accepted medical condition. - chthonic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15the ubiquitous wikipedia's input on the matter...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgellons - doctechnical, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15After reading this article I don't think I'll ever shake hands again. Frickin' unsanitary custom... probably be safer if we just spit on each other's shoes. "Nice to meet you. Ptui!"
- gotd0t, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I'm surprised someone hasn't shouted government conspiracy yet considering the CDCs reaction (or lack thereof).
- koko775, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9you, sir, are despicable.
and yet I still dugg your comment. :) - doctechnical, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"have you ever looked at your own skin with one of those Intel microscopes? You'll find all sorts of interesting things."
I didn't know Intel made microscopes. The things you learn on Digg.
Seriously - you'd see a lot more 'interesting" things if you looked at the skin of someone who lived in a very hot, very damp place (think deep jungle) for all their lives without the benefits of modern technology, hygiene or medicine.
As icky as it is, human parasites have been around as long as humans. And yes, some of them are quite happy to grow under your skin.
Now you know why mom was so insistent about washing behind your ears. - HaltingPoint, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I was actually the person who wrote the original article suggesting it was a viral marketing scheme. This was in turn picked up by Ad Rants (and submitted to Digg, but of course I'm not a top submitter so no home page for me!).
You can read my original article (with link to the follow-up) at:
http://haltingpoint.blogspot.com/2006/05/morgellons-diseaseviral-marketing-for.html
It turns out that Ad Rants and my site were both flooded with responses because apparently there are a LOT of people who claim to have this and they have RSS feeds for the search term "morgellons disease" set up so they basically all flocked to our sites at once and commented a ridiculous number of times.
The good news is that due to the amount of coverage that story got, it prompted the CDC to look into the disease, which is good progress.
Just so everybody is clear, this was NOT in any way connected to the movie. I tried to contact Warner about it but just got an automated response. The movie came out and there was zero word on this disease being connected.
So yes, it IS still possible that it was part of the campaign, but it looks increasingly less likely as more facts bubble to the surface. - Lackadaisy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11"Some have suggested that it is a hoax, even a viral marketing campaign for a sci-fi movie"
That would be AWESOME! Who else would go see that movie? For real. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Uh... no. In the early days of AIDS doctors knew there was something new going around, they just didn't know what it was, and due the variety of symptoms disagreed as to whether it was all the same disease or not. Before HIV/AIDS was discovered it was often just referred to as "the gay plague". Certainly there may have been a few doctors who saw people in the very early stages and dismissed it as being all psychological, but they were in the minority. Even the most incompetent doctor around doesn't see someone with Kaposi's Sarcoma, a cancer commonly seen in AIDS patients, and say it's just psychosomatic.
Similarly if a patient was sweating a black oily substance, as many people claim is one symptom of morgellons, it's very unlikely that a doctor would dismiss this very physical symptom. Yet somehow that never happens in the doctors office, and the people making these claims never take a sample of this substance to be tested. - stonebear, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Yeah, mental illness generally is. It’s usually delusional parasitosis, but it can also be Münchhausen’s syndrome. The topic comes up on Digg with medium frequency.
- hydralisk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8While it would be terrible if these people truly are experiencing a new disease, cases of "Morgellons disease" are textbook cases of delusional parasitosis.
- Artifez, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Yeah, thats pretty damn creepy.
- sroske, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I am curious if Ayurveda or Traditional Chinese Medicine have mention of this disease in the literature.
- chthonic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6yup. definitely a psychological condition.
1) the people sound generally pretty crazy, citing aliens and government conspiracies:
http://morgellonswatch.wordpress.com/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/
2) the lesions can be debunked here:
http://morgellonswatch.wordpress.com/2006/07/22/morgellons-and-neurotic-excoriations/
3) the fiber photos can be debunked here:
http://morgellonswatch.wordpress.com/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/ - chthonic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5did you have any luck getting the video of the "living fiber" to work?
http://www.dpref.com/alive/part2.avi
i dont have the right codec (IV50) - doctechnical, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Chemtrails! They come from chemtrails! Somebody get Art Bell stat!
- Foo667, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10Morgellons disease has been debunked many, many times. But ignorant people continue to perpetate the nonsense.
Shame on them. - georgelogy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Some of these things are pretty bizarre. It's hard to imagine this really happening, but it would be pretty scary if it was found to be real by the CDC.
Ugh, I'm getting all itchy just thinking about this. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Lots of good info on this here: http://morgellonswatch.wordpress.com/
I'm skeptical about this. Mainly the claims are that doctors are "afraid" of this because they don't know what it is, and therefore deny it is real. While you may come across an incompetent doctor, maybe even several, I really don't believe they all are - and more to the point most doctors would LOVE to discover a new disease, and then get rich and famous doing TV and lectures about it, so if it's real it's very unlikely that all doctors would dismiss it.
Then there is the long list of supposed symptoms - but only pictures of a few of them. Where are the pictures, and more importantly the samples for testing, of the supposed "black oily substance" that the people suffering this disease are said to sweat out?
Also, if you have any sort of cut or abrasion - even just a small thing like scratching a mosquito bite too much, and then look at it under a magnifying glass, you will almost certainly see fibers. The reason is that there are fibers pretty much everywhere. Lint and dust contains fibers - so do band-aids. So if you clean a cut, you're going to get some fibers in there - and then as the scab forms and it begins to heal the fibers become trapped in the wound. If you then try to pull them out with tweezers, it's gonna hurt.
I'd be interested to see some real evidence on this, but I'm not convinced it's anything more than people who may or may not have real problems (I'm leaning towards psychological) getting worked up into a lather about something that's just not there. - EnjoyTheFact, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5From TFA: "Some have suggested that it is a hoax, even a viral marketing campaign for a sci-fi movie."
I bet some sci-fi producer is kicking himself right now going "Why didn't I think of that?!" - btdgreg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4A more detailed story about this syndrome appeared as the cover story in the Dallas Observer (Dallas' independent weekly) last week.
http://www.dallasobserver.com/Issues/2006-07-20/news/feature.html
I lean toward some sort of rare mental condition, fueled by self-diagnosis and hysteria. But to the people that are going through this, I'm sure it feels very real and horrifying. Certainly can't hurt for the CDC to try and find out more about it. - Kale, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8The medical community still considers it to be a mental illness.
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgellons - dotorg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"and more to the point most doctors would LOVE to discover a new disease"
And you've just nailed right on the head why there are ANY doctors claiming there is something to it.
100% of the evidence... every last tiny speck of it... is that its nothing but a psychological condition. The only scientists claiming otherwise are taking the very valid scientific tactic of saying the exact opposite of what the evidence shows as a guaranteed way to get published... and in a publish or perish world, thats pretty damn important for them. - gemlarin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Looks like some lint stuck to a scab to me
- chaosmachine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3rename the file to .mpg and try again.
- p9s50W5k4GUD2c6, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4This will be a movie (but not for those living with it). We will begin to hear much more of this when the CDC report comes out in 2 months.
- BigManOnCampus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Ok, I watched that video from this site:
http://www.dpref.com/alive.html
I watched it all the way through. I also visited all his pages with pictures. While I find the pictures interesting, particularly the ones where fibers seem to be in skin. NONE of the pictures displays these fibers on a human being. If these fibers grew out of skin or into skin, surely they can be photographed while still attached to a patient, can they not? Since none of the pictures depicts this, It's hard to positively identify what the fibers are in. There are fibers, all sorts of colors, and pods and spots and starfish and fuzzies, but none of them are photographed while afflicting a patient. Why?
Second, the video he shows is grainy and hard-to-make-out (which is contrary to his claim). It is a video of a microscope image of some matter with fibers. In the video you see a fiber with a blobby opaque thing at one end of it. The fiber seems to be entangled with this blobby thing throughout the video. For the entire duration of the video, the fiber is moving at least a little bit. However, the movements of the fiber are oscillatory and predictable. It literally just moves back and forth, albeit at an ever-changing frequency. The blobby thing at the end moves around, but doesn't appear to change shape, and could simply be moving around because it is entangled with the fiber. none of the video depicts movement on a patient's skin. In fact, there's nothing in the video to suggest that the movement in the video isn't caused by wind-drafts on the sample itself.
I am left unconvinced. I feel bad that people feel suffering. But that site isn't proving that it is not a delusion. Here's praying it is a delusion. - onTheJDAR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@texpundit
Genius. He's telling the submitter to RTFA. - Suzie18, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I love the google ad on the right, "Stop Itching Guaranteed". Apparently Cayenne cream with a shea butter base is the guaranteed solution to this Morgellons problem. Thanks google!
To all the people with adblockers, see what you're missing out on! Solutions to incurable diseases are just one of the amazing things you'll find when you turn the ads back on... - seanl, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I hate to say this, but while it would suck for this to be real and for people to call it delusional, a pediatrician's coming down with it doesn't suddenly make it real. The photos could be of anything; have you ever looked at your own skin with one of those Intel microscopes? You'll find all sorts of interesting things.
If there are really 4000 cases we should see some actual scientific findings pretty soon. But my suspicion is that this really is contagious, so contagious in fact that you can come down with it just by hearing about it! - jjesusfreak01, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Your telling me that there isnt already a SciFi movie somewhat based on that.
- ArcticCelt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Here is my sci fi explanation. Dupont (the well known chemical company who invented many materials) was testing some new nanobot technology in a top secret lab. The fiber making nanobots escaped and are now eating people!!!
They are gona eat us all!!!!! haaaaaa! - mistshadow2k4, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6"I'm skeptical about this. Mainly the claims are that doctors are "afraid" of this because they don't know what it is, and therefore deny it is real. While you may come across an incompetent doctor, maybe even several, I really don't believe they all are - and more to the point most doctors would LOVE to discover a new disease, and then get rich and famous doing TV and lectures about it, so if it's real it's very unlikely that all doctors would dismiss it."
Hold a seance and tell that to the people who died of AIDS before it was called that. Most of the early cases of AIDS were dismissed as either some other VD and sometimes as hypochondria. Over a century ago, menstrual cramps were supposed to just be in a woman's head simply because doctors at the time couldn't figure out what caused the cramps. Dismissal of a disease as mental illness by the medical community at large has happened before.
God, I hope I never get this. - chthonic, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6anyone else get the heebie-jeebies?
- vinbob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Jeez!! That fiber is really moving on it own.
That's sick! - jesseroo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2well, it seems if they are real (which I doubt) these things are microscopic so you can't exactly just see them with your eyes.
- CompIsMyRx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hard to tell what those pictures are of...
- Daisuke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'd be alot more convinced if that fiber's end wasn't out of frame. It does look pretty wierd and not normal at all, but it's still entirely possible that it's still faked.
if it's not though.. then damn... - wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Something very funky going on here. I'm very, very glad that I am not on that particular CDC team.
- synaesthesia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well thats the most terrifying thing i've ever seen.
- scottbgc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is a total hoax...it was debunked months ago....get over it
- Daisuke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Okay, my editing time ran out, but this one is much more convicing.. and really ***** creepy... o_O
http://www.dpref.com/starfish/4sectl.avi
it's what he calls a "starfish delusion", and that video is of one drying out and popping out of his skin... or something.. it's just wierd... -
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