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- 42nnn, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30i hope this isnt inaccurate cause what an easy fix if its true
- dancpsu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22BBC link lends more credibility: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4238250.stm
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19If this is true, this is a remarkable step forward and the only thing I wonder is why did it take over 30 years for someone else to verify this?
- rolosworld, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15because this cure can't be patented...
- livet0ski, on 08/17/2009, -3/+17cancer sucks
- kd1s, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13I wonder how pharma will react to this. After all, they make serious money on chemotherapeutic drugs.
IV Vitamin C isn't rocket science. - drinkGreen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I think its accurate. I just Googled "Vitamin C 'cancer cells' " and got back the same news from mulitple sources
- Otto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10It's accurate. Over a year old, but accurate. Here's the paper on PubMed:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=16157892&dopt=Abstract
Doesn't work on all cancers, of course, but it may lead to different approaches. - Cozmcphish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Of course she'll kill cancer have you heard how bad she sings?
All I know is that she was a crappy singer and if I have to hear "Graduation Song" one more freakin' time..... - smeagel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9No you're not, you're stating a nutball conspiracy theory. The FDA will approve whatever will work. Have you ever worked for a pharmaceutical company? Have you ever dealt witht he chemists trying to develop CURES? That's what cracks me up about this idiotic conspiracy theory morons like you propogate, you forget about the scientists. Even if there are scumbags at the top, the scientists and engineers developing the cures have only the best of intentions, there is no company-wide-conspiracy to avoid cures or to produce expensive treatments -- we've just exhausted all the easy treatments for easily treated diseases. It's just like physics and math, the brightest people aren't solving huge problems with fairly easy (to understand) solutions like measuring gravity or speed of light -- now the brightest mines have to pick the higher to reach smaller fruit like string theory. We now have to work a lot harder to cure the smaller more difficult (more mutating diseases) than we did to discover if you eat some moldy bread, them bacteria die.
I do NOT work for a pharmy company, but have in the past, and they were good people with good motives who get a bad rap. - aelias, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7The cure for cancer will be something stupid like this. Some random plant noones tested yet. Just like faster than light travel will be something dumb like magnets and water.
Or not. - codyman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Well.. if this is true it would be a nice and easy solution to a very big problem...
- Spaztic, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Even if it is true, injecting vitamin C will not be approved by the FDA, thus we will never see the treatment in traditional facilities. Cancer is to big of a industry to have a cure for....
sorry, just stating reality - Diggtatorship, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10because Google is the keeper of all truth ;)
- josegutz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I hope this is accurate because I've been smoking like a chimney for the past 20 years...
I could use an intravenous vitamin C cocktail or two about now... - gwalbridge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This was on digg a few months back... okay, maybe more like 9 or 10 months back, but I still remember the article vividly. I believe it said you need to have 500 oranges worth of vitamin C delivered intravenously in order to be effective, and in order to solve cancer-related problems you needed to have it performed regularly (about once a week). Nevertheless, the price was in the range of a few hundred dollars per month, which clearly beats the thousands you would have to pay for other cancer-coping or -defeating drugs.
Pretty badass, and very very true. It's not that new, it just hasn't gotten much publicity :S
I'd like to know if it would help with more regular sicknesses, such as cold or flu virii. - BackOrder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Dr. Linus Pauling is a great inspiring man whose work on Vitamin C has been controversial among medical community.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauling - noodlez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5how completely....weird.
- dw2005, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I hope its true. This follows up on a more detailed story here:
http://digg.com/general_sciences/Latest_cure_for_cancer:_500_oranges - romulusnr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Dugg this only because of "something dumb like magnets and water."
- monosyth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Also, remember the kid that declined heavier doses of chemotherapy, and went through the court system to go an alternative route? It appears he also used the I.V. Vitamin C:
http://www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061010/NEWS01/610100303/1002 - biffsputnik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@dancpsu
You're right.. the FDA will approve a pharmaceutical, but not just plain old I.V. Vitamin C they will not. Whatever, whoever.... someone mix some filler ingredients in there, and get it on the market. - SpeedoBurrito, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4That is exactly why it took decades to confirm because the drug companies didn't want the information out.
- Ganpachi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If the vitamin alone is so effective, then what is to stop a competitor from marketing a cheaper version sans expensive additions?
ah free markets--sometimes a curse, sometimes a blessing. - nwily, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4If you read a more detailed article, it's not just vitamin C. According to http://www.primezone.com/newsroom/news.html?d=86082
"The institute's research documents that vitamin C, when used in combination with the amino acids L-lysine and L-proline and a polyphenol fraction of green tea known as Epigallocatechin Gallate (EGCG)"
Pauling argued vitamin C alone would act as a cure. It makes more sense that he was close, but missing something. - mwcole, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3A more accurate description of the finding can be found here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4238250.stm
This news is over a year old, and many additional studies need to be conducted to prove this really works. These results contradict previous findings (though they had only tried oral vitamin C before). - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3According to U.S. Law, only a DRUG can cure a disease.
So don't expect to be getting some simple Vitamin C at the hospital, instead look out for the $5,000 dose of Vitaminozine C (patent pending) they will give you. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3LOL, Stephen Barrett is a quack himself.
http://www.quackpotwatch.org/ - recklessftw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I wouldn't trust the FDA as far as I could throw them. They are just a small panel of people that decide based on reports... some reports from the same company that the drug is coming from. There's nothing wrong with the pharmy industry, it has a place... so does natural medicine. It's been around longer but not used because it can't be copyrighted and patented. If we could get to a world where BOTH modern and natural medicines could be used in harmony towards the same goal, we would be so much farther along and avoid early deaths/suffering. But people from both sides won't co-operate... there are a few that will.
- Yez70, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Pharma can still have a market.
Now they can mix their drugs with Vitamin C in a hybrid intravenous form and sell that for a premium.
Except maybe now, it'll actually work and we can defeat more cancers. - DrDigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2These studies were done in cell culture lines - not in people. Cell culture lines results often do not match up with en vivo studies.
- soarin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@rdotson -- good point!
People just don't get to hear about natural therapies -- Vitamin C is one, Honey as an antibiotic is another. Science is just now starting to find out more about the ways honey speeds wound healing, even though it was used on soldiers in the last two world wars to speed healing. I have used honey alot for cuts, and it really works.
You can read more about it at http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=48281 - smaxl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If it is that easy than i am glad that they found it out now because it could have been never
- dancpsu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3No, the drug companies are more creative than you think. They will take a combination of vitamin c, some other ingredients to improve (or just not affect) the effectiveness of the treatment, patent it, and sell it under a different name for $$$.
- francphysic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The FDA will approve it.
That doesn't mean pharmaceuticals will promote it. A lot of "new" medicines don't necessarily cure anything we couldn't treat before. However the old medicine is now cheap due to an expired patent so it doesn't get promoted anymore. Pharmaceuticals are in the business to make money first.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/other/
It's also odd how Cuba seems to be on the forefront of biotechnology:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.12/cuba.html - hapmoorii, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ganpachi Patent suits are what would stop someone from marketing it without the additives.
For those saying big pharmacies are not evil/greedy/bad/whatever, read some of the patents. These people are patenting discoveries, finding a use for the discovery after...say...10-15 years, and then finding ways to patent the use. After their "use" patent has been used up, they patent the damn packaging.
My guess is you've never paid $100/day for a medication. I have, and I've read its patents. Basically, the "real" patent had expired. We were still payinig exorbitant amounts of money because they had a packaging patent, and generic companies were unwilling to come into the market. Of course, that drug kept my wife alive so it's a bit of a love/hate relationship. - successrealm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@infra172
Pssssht please....Stay on topic.
The last 6 years have not been the "libruls" fault.
Are you taking sleeping medicine instead of Vitamin C, because it appears you have been asleep.
Furthermore, it also appears you have been taking LSD regularly, because you haven't faced reality yet either. What color is the sky on your planet?
Vitamin C,,, Cancer,,,,etc foooocus
Yawn, sheep. - bleonard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2the article is dated 9/14/2005...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Pharmaceutical companies aren't as evil as you guys make them out to be. They spend tons of money researching and developing drugs. The problem is the market. In America, Pharm companies price the drugs according to what the market can bear. Yes, it's true that a drug may cost $0.10 to manufacture, but sell for $10 a pill. The real evil is that doctors are *forced* to prescribe the more expensive drug, if the drug is even 1% better.
Say Drug A sells for $0.10 a pill, and can reduce LDLs by 25%. If Drug B sells for $10.00 a pill, but can reduce LDLs by 26%, then the doctor must prescribe drug B. If the patient has any pathology related to their cholesterol levels, and it's seen the doctor didn't prescribe the best possible drug, then he is at risk for litigation.
It sucks, but it's true. - hhOwArdrOarKk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Man, and I thought it was only good for Scurvy. Well, welcome back into my life C.
- mkayatta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Working in a lab at the NIH looking at the effects of acorbate (vitamin C) on carcinogensis, I can say that this article is a little misleading. Vitamin C does seem to kill some cancer cells, and is most likely due the effect that many cancer cells have different metabolisms from normal cells. Vitamin C is an important reducing factor. It is important in scurvy (ECM formation) but also plays a role as a cofactor to various enzymes in the body. These have only recently been looked at, and thus the effectiveness of ascorbate is still in its infancy. The articly asks what took so long for people to realize this, and the answer is that many other seeminly more important things got in the way and Vitamin C seems like it's just too easy... maybe it is?
- docdendrite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Curing even one of the hundreds of forms of cancer is very complicated, and the solution is much more complicated than "add Vitamin C." Nonetheless, these findings are promising and will no doubt be followed up on.
Secondly, there will never be a conspiracy to withhold treatments to widespread afflictions like cancer. Why? The drug companies are in cutthroat competition with one another. If Pfizer sits on a treatment they have, you better believe that Roche or Novartis are right on their ass with one of their own. And guess what, the winner makes TRILLIONS...even if they cure every last person. - airship, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I'm interested in its supposed antibacterial effects. I've lost 4 toes to diabetic infections. The last one was highly antibiotic-resistant, and nearly killed me. With bacteria becoming ever more resistant over time, I could easily end up with something that antibiotics can't touch. Vitamin-C could just save my life.
- pauleku, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1but the money isnt in the cure, its in the COMEBACK (Treatment)!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Reminds me of the incredible amount of delay time that's involved in releasing a medicine to the public.
- RetardoCrisp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Dr. Linus Pauling first discovered the use of high doses of Vitamin C to curb cancer growth back in the 60's. His research and proof was extensive and yet it has just started to be recognized over the past 5 years. How sad. Pharmaceutical companies are all evil conglomerates who get millions of $$ per year via grants, funding, and donations. If they find a cure that funding stops and all the other companies make generic doses of the same drug. Thus it is not lucrative for these companies to find a cure. It all comes down to natural methods being the best. There was a test done recently where 2 males who had severe advance melanoma were given a treatment which makes their own cells see the cancer as a foreign body and attack it. It did work and their cancer is gone! Essentially this is why cancer wins as the body just sees it as a guest for tea rather than a burglar. Nonetheless, homeopathic methods will win if anything does. Not synthetic drugs.
- JonBuddy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1200% DV of vitamin C might sound like a lot, but its really not that much. You should have much more than that if you are trying to keep from becoming sick.
- Adenosine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Correct me if i'm wrong, but Vitamin C would not need to be approved by the FDA for IV dosing. VitC is already a major component of everday IV setups, as well as a GRAS ingredient in every food we eat. The chemical is neither novel nor being used in a new way. As long as people didn't die, I bet you would not need any FDA consent.. But then again, I'm no lawyer.
- lrgfs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I just think it's very sad that it takes the lure of buckets of money to motivate people to do good for others. Why can't pharmaceutical companies be non profit? Why can't the people through their government change the law? Where is the freedom people? Why are sick people being ripped off at their weakest point?
You wanna save your ass, we do ya? Then pay up scum!!!
No wonder they're very profitable companies, they've got us over a barrel and they're going for it. - Thor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If I was dieing from cancer I'd inject anything up my arm to cure it!
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