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- Ghostalker, on 02/29/2008, -9/+104"Please digg so more parents will read that the link to autism has been debunked."
Any parents who use Digg to get parenting advice should have their kids taken away. - DermDoc, on 02/29/2008, -24/+109I am sure you would not say that, Bob, if you knew that over 242,000 children around the world died of measles last year. Measles vaccine is the most cost-effective public health intervention for preventing deaths in the world. Ironically, vaccines like MMR actually strengthen your immune system; they do not weaken it.
- bluearyus, on 02/29/2008, -3/+79I wish there was a way to flag comments as "ignorant"
- Azerael, on 02/29/2008, -4/+68Vaccines boost the immune system, not weaken it. Your typical vaccine is the virus/disease engineered so that it's not dangerous, thus teaching your immune system to identify it and destroy it without having to suffer through the infection process.
- camino262, on 02/29/2008, -7/+47I just vaccinated my 1 year old.
People will believe anything they hear without proof. Startling revelation: Cities do have libraries where you can read all the technical journals on almost any subject you can think of. A story on fox news or cnn does not constitute a reference. Can you imagine listing fox news or cnn as a reference on a research paper? - jamangold, on 02/29/2008, -3/+42"weakening our collective immune systems"
So, smallpox was eradicated because of the weakening of our "collective immune systems"? - Dumbledorito, on 02/29/2008, -6/+39And flouride in the water is a communist plot, right?
Hey, here's a thought: Start a package tour to some ebola-infested areas in Africa. "Leave a wuss, come back a man!" Be sure to get payment in advance. - DarkHelmet433, on 02/29/2008, -3/+36Thimerosal-free vaccines have been available (and even the norm) in more civilized parts of the world for 10+ years. And yet, strangely, the Autism diagnosis rate continues to climb even there, just the same as it does in the US.
One would think that if there was such a conclusive link between the preservative and Autism, that the drastic drop in thimerosal consumption would have caused a drop in diagnosis rates. But instead, there is no effect. Hmmmmm.....
I write this as a parent of an Autistic child who was NEVER exposed to Thimerosal. They stopped it 2 years before he was born. - samssf, on 02/29/2008, -15/+43My parents didn't get me any immunizations because they were too scared I'd get whatever they were immunizing me for. Yeah, thanks a ***** lot, *****.
- corruptor0612, on 02/29/2008, -5/+33Yeah, I had someone tell me once that the reason my daughter died of SIDS at 3 months was because that we had her vaccinated.. It took quite a lot of restraint to keep my ass out of jail that day.
- trump48257, on 02/29/2008, -3/+28"They" have. Thimerosal hasn't been used for several years now and Autism rates are still going up. This fear has been debunked many times over in scholarly journals that do not get revenue from vaccines. This just isn't true.
- MiamiRox, on 02/29/2008, -2/+25Well because you're so eloquent and articulate, OF COURSE I'm inclined to believe you.
- FalseAnimal, on 02/29/2008, -2/+24It cannot be emphasized enough that courts are no place to settle scientific debates. You don't need to look any further than the Scopes trial for that.
- RobotBuddha, on 02/29/2008, -2/+24As far as I'm aware, it doesn't work like that. It's a passive immunity transferred by breast milk only before weaning. With the protection fading in the child after about a month to at the most a year. Their immune system isn't altered by your breast milk. They need continual meals of it to stay immune.
- Dumbledorito, on 02/29/2008, -1/+22It doesn't weaken the immune system; it gives more virulent bacteria a place to spread.
- jamangold, on 02/29/2008, -1/+22FTA: "The number of measles cases in England and Wales jumped more than 30% last year to the highest level since records began in 1995."
Did I read that correctly? They didn't start recording measles statistics until 1995? - inactive, on 02/29/2008, -9/+30Your a ***** idiot who doesn't even know know what your talking about. Look at the ***** science.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17928818?ordina ...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14519711?ordina ...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12880876?ordina ... - samssf, on 02/29/2008, -1/+22Epic fail. I think you're somehow confusing vaccinations with antibiotics.
- IAmDavid, on 02/29/2008, -9/+30No.
"Thus, based on this body of evidence, the committee concludes that the evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal_controvers ...
Also, RTFA. - MiamiRox, on 02/29/2008, -1/+21Oh fantastic thinking sir, while we're at it lets stop vaccinating for things like polio (yes it still exists). And hey, if we've ever come up for a vaccine for HIV/AIDS lets just throw that out the window too huh?
- Dumbledorito, on 02/29/2008, -1/+21For the same reason you pay taxes to support the fire department.
- tc88888888, on 02/29/2008, -2/+21OMG this is why your baby will die... go and learn some basic medicine before commenting. Vaccinationg boosts immune system. A vaccine allows the body to mount an army to a pathogen without actually fighting it, therefore, the next time the body see it, it'll be more able to defend the body.
- nirvanix, on 02/29/2008, -30/+49The issue between autism and the vaccine has not been 'debunked'. In fact, the first lawsuit has just been allowed to proceed against the vaccine makers. The real issue is not the vaccine, it's that they are using mercury as a preservative. You can ask your doctor to get the mercury-free vaccine for your child - it is available
- lopla, on 02/29/2008, -26/+44I hate anti-vaccine freaks about as much as I hate bush supporters.
- aukxsona, on 02/29/2008, -3/+20You do know you can walk into any health office and get them now right?
- nreynolds, on 02/29/2008, -9/+25anti-bacterial stuff like Purel weakens the immune system, not vaccines.
- tc88888888, on 02/29/2008, -5/+20Name one recorded case where the MMR vaccine is the cause for autism. Not one ever!!
maybe you should argue against other vaccines such as polio or the flu vax which may actually have some problems. Even if these vaccines does cause problems, you have to remember that vaccination is a community effort, out of a million vaccinated we might have made 10 sick, but we would have saved 10000 lives. - geefull, on 02/29/2008, -1/+16I was born before there was a vaccine for measles and my little brother caught it from a friend and passed it to me. He didn't appear very ill but was left with a lung problem that required repeated medical treatment (from what I know now it sounds like this was pneumonal) for 6 months.
I was very ill. I spent 3 weeks in bed and another three weeks off school to recuperate. My hair was long and I didn't want them to cut it off (Yes...I'm female!) and my dad sat for a whole day trying to get the knots out. I recovered ok ( I have good hearing and my IQ is above average) but I still get a sore throat at the drop of a hat. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
Severe cases can leave you blind or deaf or with brain damage. My younger sister was vaccinated as soon as the vaccine became widely available. All children we have between us have been vaccinated. - stupidStan, on 02/29/2008, -3/+17I had measles in 3rd grade (yes, I had my MMR shot) and it was just horrible. Took them 3 days to figure out what I had because a the doctors at my hospital had never seen measles.
- tc88888888, on 02/29/2008, -3/+17Healthy diet, exercise are wonderful things to keep ourselves healthy to prevent heart disease, diabetes etc... however it'll do very little again infectious diseases.
One of the major reasons why many people don't get sick from having no vaccination is the fact that herd immunity protected them from the disease. Due to the fact that the majority of people have had the vaccine, it vastly reduces the probability of the non-vaccinated people contracting the disease.
MMR has very little side effects, and even if it does, it's the smaller of two evils. It's like getting surgery to cut out a tumor, or taking steriods for asthma, both have significal side effects but in the over all community, those who benefit will outweight those who don't. - Gabberwok, on 02/29/2008, -1/+15I may be wrong about this, but the immune protection from your milk only provides IgA antibodies, which help protect the lining of the gut from specific pathogens but can do little if it gets into the bloodstream (where your main protection is from specific IgG antibodies). Unless your children have large quantities of specific memory B and T cells to fight off infection, they have no "permanent" immunity - although just like vaccinations any immune protection can decrease after time as your immune system weakens with old age.
- trump48257, on 02/29/2008, -4/+18Well it doesn't matter if thimerosal is harmful or not. It is no longer used anyways and autism rates are still increasing. It's not the vaccines people.
- satanswetnipple, on 02/29/2008, -4/+18I have two points to make. The first is that you would not wish the experience on your worst enemy, but you WANT your children to go through it? This is either a desperate need to have your children live your life experiences and follow in your footsteps... or you truly detest your children.
The second point is that you are wrong. Some people DO catch measles more than once in their lives. My wife has had measles four times. There are multiple strains of measles. Immunity to one (if you are one of the lucky ones who get full immunity) does not mean immunity to any other strain. - inactive, on 02/29/2008, -11/+25I hate kids. Buried.
- lopla, on 02/29/2008, -3/+16Oh noes, the mercury! I will not take a vaccine because of the 0.0000000000000000001% of mercury but I'll scoff down a foot long tuna sub chock full of mercury any day..
- trump48257, on 02/29/2008, -9/+22Although thimerosal has been essentially proven not to cause autism by many more thorough studies since that one initial study that suggested there may have been a link----THIMEROSAL IS NO LONGER USED AND AUTISM RATES ARE STILL GOING UP. It's not the vaccines people. Please get your kids vaccinated for their own safety.
- superkendall, on 02/29/2008, -21/+34Perhaps Larry And Curly here would like to take remedial reading, like the part where she notes that just by breast feeding her children they gain the same absolute immunity she has, instead of the fickle limited immunity shots grant you.
Sterilization I think is a fantastic idea, retroactive for you two would be a great start. - orca94, on 02/29/2008, -2/+15Agreed if you're young and healthy, but for old people and those for whom the flu would cause complications Flu shots make sense.
- Magnus150, on 02/29/2008, -2/+14You did better than I would have. That joker would've had a case of SADS - sudden adult death syndrome, caused by my foot being shoved too far up his rectum.
- glucoseboy, on 02/29/2008, -5/+17Mercury (thimerosal) in the vaccine causing autism is another myth. Mercury-free vaccines have been around since 2001, yet the autism rate keeps rising.
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20080209_Ed ... - yohan, on 02/29/2008, -0/+12Autism is not ADD.
- tightscrummy, on 02/29/2008, -0/+11Actually, Purel is just ethyl alcohol (you can drink it, it's not denatured) and will destroy anything it comes in contact with. But yeah, it's criminal that the stuff with antibiotics is allowed to be sold OTC.
- nitroburn, on 02/29/2008, -1/+12Yes, it has been banned from many places for a while due to people being scared, and guess what? The rates keep going up showing that it wasn't the preservative to begin with. The mercury issue is based on a misunderstanding of the various forms elements can take when combined with other elements. People seem to eat salt and think it is safe while ignoring it is made of Chlorine and Sodium. This is a salt of ethylmercury and is easily flushed from the body.
- inactive, on 02/29/2008, -3/+14Wait, so trusting arbitrary, unverifiable claims from people with no scientific training is better than trusting a scientific study how?
- inactive, on 02/29/2008, -3/+14You and your retarded wife are ***** idiots, and the reason we should require a license to breed.
Thankfully your little will be much more likely to die off than people who take care of their kids, so whatever the ***** is wrong with your seed will be phased out of the gene-pool over time. - scottfarner, on 02/29/2008, -4/+15The vaccine has been shown to cause diarrhea, pneumonia, laryngotracheal bronchitis, otitis media, malnutrition, gangrenous stomatitis, vitamin A deficiency (leading to corneal ulceration and blindness), acute encephalitis (brain infection), immunosuppression and subacute sclerosing panencephalitis.
Oh, wait. That's measles, not the vaccine. My bad. - jgzman, on 02/29/2008, -1/+12Of interest would be the number of confirmed Autism cases from a Vaccine, vs the number of confirmed dead from an epidemic. I trust that you are a ware that in the 1700 it was reasonably common to have children die at a very young age, from all kinds of diseases?
This is the kind of decision that has to be made, and it has to be made collectively. As you can see from TFA, a few people who choose not to get their child immunized can result in outbreaks of a disease that hardly even exists anymore. This may even result in a vaccine resistant form of the disease. I'm not 100% sure that viruses work that way, but I see no reason that they should not. - satanswetnipple, on 02/29/2008, -4/+15I do believe your reading comprehension is a little lacking superkendall. The immunisation is only in effect during the breastfeeding period. It is not a super immunisation that will last their lives. If it was, the disease would have died out centuries ago... and drug companies would be creating immunisation shots from human breast milk.
- pintomp3, on 02/29/2008, -1/+12sadly, for some parents it would be an improvement.
- loquax, on 02/29/2008, -3/+14The correlation (and causation) of vaccination to autism hasn't been sufficiently proven and is in serious doubt. The correlation (and causation) of diseases in children who are not immunized has been proven time and time again. If this were a horse race, you'd be throwing your money down a drain. I have no problem with that. I do however have a problem with people who wager their children's health and lives on the basis of poor scientific evidence.
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