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- allaboutdatiki, on 10/12/2007, -5/+34Ack, I work at home. If I leave work at work, it's already home, it never goes anywhere.
I gotta get out more ... - evilTak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+131) Work when you're at work.
2) Don't work when you're not at work. - gharding, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Totally off topic, but I just want to take this moment to say that I want to kick the people in the balls that take kids to work.
- raynar, on 10/12/2007, -11/+19"Hi. I'm a crappy blog. Please digg me, so I can make some Adsense money."
If you're going to post crap like this, at least get it off Lifehacker.com, looks better and doesnt have a blatantly obvious "check out my ads" site. *****. - xioner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6home office / desk /user account
Put all of your work in one room / desk / account on your computer. Do your work and, when it is done, close the door or account and don't go back until the next day. - grubwort, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5My suggestion is to leave the office in the evening and go home. Then go back to the office the following morning.
It's been working for me for a good few years, now.
[edit: ooh, just beaten to it by a pithier evilTak!] - humbled, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Javienn,
My girlfriend is a teacher too and has a similar problem. I think in the case of teachers, so much is expected of them that they have little choice in the matter. They MUST finish certain tasks by certain dates, what we call (in my field, and in others I am sure) "drop dead dates." That is pretty much all that exists for them, unfortunately. The work will either be done at the school, or at home. So pick your poison: physically but not mentally with the person you love, or neither physically nor mentally together. I'd pick the former, be as understanding as possible about the demands of the workload, and simply find ways to arrange time so that casual moments together can be had and enjoyed. For example, you might want to arrange a "boys night out" with some of your friends so that she has time to concentrate and work, in order to have a "together" night later in the week. I don't know how your wife would react to such a suggestion, but my girlfriend seems to be in favor of these sorts of arrangements.
The key difference here is that this article is about people who are truly addicted to work. That is, people who don't *have* to work yet *choose* to do so. My stepfather is such a person, so I know exactly what family life is like with this type of personality. I think for most teachers, the excessive work is an obligation and not a psychosis, so rest easy. Your wife, if anything like my girlfriend, gets much more vacation than a typical corporate drone, so that's also an opportunity for you to blow your vacation and sick leave and spend good quality time with her. I'm planning on doing that myself as well. :) - saleem, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5All hail the leader?
- jrmcgrath13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I bring home to work... and then work... wait, what's work?
- BobMysterioso, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I thought I should read this article. Of course, I just got in 2 minutes ago from work, and now I'm sitting down at my computer at home working on the same thing I was just working on 20 minutes ago.
So, yea, I should read this, but after I get done working. - antistupid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I hate to say this (because it sounds so sexist), but from my experience it appears women have more trouble leaving work at work than men. Guys, from my experience, don't usually talk about work outside of their job unless they genuinely love what it is that they do.
- HighEncryption, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Simple answer: WoW. The only trick now is trying to get work done at work.
- hmemcpy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah, I'm sure Kevin got payed to submit this blog entry :/
- xenixninja, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My gf does that. She can't stop talking about work, and I just can't talk about work.
I'll give her this article tomorrow, and let you know if she is still my gf. ;) - sjbdallas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Get fired from a job where you work your butt off all the time and then you'll realize that all that work doesn't do a thing for you in the end.
- Javienn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I've been wondering about this for a while. I find it extremely easy to leave work at work. I actually do much of what is advised on the linked site. My concern is for my Wife. She is an elementary / junior high school teacher. Is there really anyway for her work to stay at work? I really don't think there is.
Maybe in 20 years when she has established teaching / lesson plans and a nice sized exam / assignment bank, but right now? With all of the planning, marking, and organizing, I really don't see this happening. Any suggestions are welcome!
A great article, but like many others, it must be taken with a grain of salt. It is not a be all end all, and does not provide solutions to every job / situation (though we all knew that already, us being intelligent diggers... ;o)... ).
-Jav - stryker2you, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Personally, I like the "get up earlier" suggestion. It does sting at first but once you get used to it...it's great. Originally I was being called at 5:30 in the morning for work...at first it was no fun, but then I started to fix the problem that generated the call at 5:30...now, I automatically get up at 5:30am and have time to myself before I have to get ready. Take this morning for example..I got up at 5:30, watched some TV, played the Xbox, then got ready and went to work by 8. This may or may not work for you...but it works for me.
- saska, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not sure what business you're in or how old you are. The women I know (thirties, parents, etc.) work two jobs -- the day job and the mom job. Also, talking about work does not equal bringing work home with you. In my time in this industry, the people who work when they're not at work are more likely (not always the case) to be men.
Actually, not to get off on a tangent, but there are women I know who are career professionals and they work constantly as well. The difference is usually that they don't have kids. It seems a man can be a workaholic and still have a family, but it isn't usually possible for a woman. You can draw your own conclusions. - sjbdallas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1uh.....smack around a few minutes to see if it softens?
- sjbdallas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Even the hot moms that have to breast feed their babies?
- drgruney, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I hate to comment spam the thread but oh well.
I remember having teachers who graded with their spouse. May suck for you... I don't know if you're interested in the subject she teaches. I had an English teacher who's husband often graded essays for grammar, while the teacher graded the content. She would double check his marks while she read for content, so I don't think it was unfair in anyway. I imagine the benefits were two-fold. They got to spend some peaceful time together and since they worked together the grading was done quicker so that they had more time to do what they wanted. - Aokami, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I know all of my 25% time is on this site... *sigh*
I think the biggest flaw in this article is assuming the people who need to read it are really going to take advice on how to not obsess.. like some little blog is going to keep me from going all Dr. Doom about my 9 to 5. It does give a cute roadmap for people who are unable to multitask, though and want to feel better about their ability to shuff off the day's problems. I've solved some of my biggest working problems because of the fact I will think about it subconciously at all times, but that may not be everyone's case. - drgruney, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'd have to say it's the opposite in my experience. I work at my college's TV station, and since we're too busy to make friends the station staff is a pretty tight group. We spend unhealthy amounts of time with each other and often have moratoriums on talking about work. The worst offenders are always the males... always.
- MrKC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2My home life sucks. So I enjoy working all the time.
- VeganG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I feel bad for teachers, it's a truly full-time job. Not even parenting is a full-time job these days, it seems.
- MattS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1For me... I use / do the following....
Use the Blackberry feature that turns off radio nightly...
Learn to focus on the important, and not the urgent. Know the difference.
*Truly* delegate. Trust your colleagues. Its amazing what happens when you really trust them to do their jobs.
Under commit, over deliver.
Learn to estimate accurately - you'll know what you can and cant do.
Become a GTD "black belt" - This one saved my life!
And finally - have a Home you want to come home to. *Work* to make that all it could be - the rest takes care of itself. - Hidama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's harder than it looks.
- Dustin00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Take the long way home? Ick. That's awful advice on so many levels.
Better:
Get home, change clothes, stretch out, play with your dog or cat, hug your significant other. - resplence, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Actually this was featured on lifehacker and the submitter probably thought he was doing a good thing by "linking directly to the source", as it is so often requested by the blogspam police.
The only issue I have with the article are the actual tips. I mean, "change your route"? Come on. Productivity blogs are mostly useless. - jrmcgrath13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1nope... 27.
- saska, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"If she's married and maybe has the job for spending money or the benefits because her husband's job provides the "real money""
Helloooo, 1960. Maybe those women don't have anything to prove except when they're dealing with your mindset. - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Automatic by popularity... thousands of kids who'd love to suck kevin's ***** will digg anything he submits.
But kevin has some good submissions, and he created the site so what do you expect? At least he doesn't post crap all the time because he knows it's going to the front page for sure. - crilen007, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2That 13 must be his age.
- billybob77, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is ***** stupid.
- ronfez, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What is the point of "Get up earlier". Don't bring work home, but sneak out in the early morning to go to work.... and work????
- CeeJayDK, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@allaboutdatiki Time to give up that career in prostitution .. ;-)
- raynar, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Did you not see the submitter? Automatic front page.
- KenOh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Don't get a teaching job.
- elhaf, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I gotta figure out how to leave internet surfing at home.
- rudy23, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4dont worry. google catches em and suspends their accounts. its against their TOS.
- claco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Oddly enough, my recipe for leaving for at work...is, more work. I'm a programmer, but I do more problem solving/code reviews, etc at work than actually programming most times. So when I come home, I program (in completly different languages than $work). It works both as a distraction as well as to install some sense of accomplishment/progress for the day rather then stewing about not-really-programming at $work all day.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4and what about when you program for a job, and then program for leisure!
- BDOUG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Seems to me the majority of so-called workaholic folks I have known personally 1. waste a great deal of time at work doing non-work things like chatting and joking (nothing wrong with these things at all, but stop fooling yourself into thinking that it's work by calling it "networking") 2. waste a lot of time in very non-productive meetings where a lot of group-think and familiar ground is gone over and over again just to give warm & fuzzies to the slow-absorbing pointy haired bosses and 3. spend a lot of time on blackberry's and email at home doing stuff they could have easily covered during normal working hours if they simply knew how to prioritize and ignore the squeaky-but-unimportant wheels at work.
They also tend to ramble in their communications (sort of like I'm doing here) instead of keeping things short and to the point.
Political correctness and paranoid CYA environments generate a lot of excess verbiage and it really adds up over your typical "work week" into a lot of overhead.
It's also been shown in studies that even tho people in the USA work more hours than many other developed parts of the world...we're also considerably less productive per hour. I suspect all the time-wasting BS above is partially to blame. Plus the fact that we're all exhausted from all this "work" and we no longer value the power of the imagination anymore (at least, outside of the non-reality-show entertainment industry). The sub-conscious mind is much more powerful at solving complex problems ("Eureka!" moments in the shower, during dreams, etc) than the conscious corporate-indoctrinated mind.
However, all we seem to want to do in the USA is "grind out" the overtime and think this makes us productive white collar heroes. It really just makes us stupid and inefficient bozos, and handicaps us from doing any significant / truly challenging / creative things. We're also pathologically obsessed with conspicuous consumption, which drives us to continuously overwork in such a tedious blow hard manner.
So stop reading this and go fill out your TPS reports already. We're gonna need you to come in on Saturday. Sunday, too. - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1you're pretty sick chubbs
- TheWedge, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2A fat bowl and Trailer Park Boys works for me.
- Sargasso_C, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0You're a creature of your environment.
- raynar, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3I have adblock, but one, I'm not going to that crappy site, and 2, sites I enjoy like digg uses adsense, and I dont want to prevent them from any earnings.
- sjbdallas, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I think it depends on the woman's situation. If she's married and maybe has the job for spending money or the benefits because her husband's job provides the "real money" then those are the types that barely even work at work much less out of work.
The chicks out on their own who are looking to prove something are the ones that can't stop doing or talking about work. - stryker2you, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1double post...digg down.
- drgruney, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Step 3 profit??????????
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