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- stutimandal, on 11/07/2008, -5/+35Hate to say this and I don't wish to be cited as racist or whatever, but it seems that the whole country manufactures tainted products.
- UpsideClown, on 11/08/2008, -2/+17The US needs to start knocking cash off our debt whenever they screw up.
- draculthemad, on 11/08/2008, -0/+13Its not just a matter of china making contaminated products. Its just that we import *so much* from them that even if 1 or 2 % are contaminated, that translates into a lot of dangerous stuff coming in.
Part of the problem is that its much harder for someone damaged by these goods to sue the actual source. They can sue the state-side distributor, but those are usually smaller companies. These are small outfits that outsource everything from their call centers to product, after all. They go for the cheapest producer who can give them X, and dont necessarily do any due diligence on the result.
Trying to sue someone across international borders is extraordinarily complicated, even if the government of the other part is inclined to be cooperative. - kemp34, on 11/08/2008, -4/+15How would that be racist? China is a country.
- dilbert, on 11/08/2008, -3/+12STOP BUYING ***** FROM CHINA! When do we learn?
- inactive, on 11/08/2008, -0/+8Buy cheap, get cheap.
- inactive, on 11/08/2008, -6/+14And if we listened to the Libertarian free marketeers we could have the same thing going on here.
Government intervention and oversight is not always a bad thing. - browntiger, on 11/08/2008, -1/+7The scary part is - FDA had to seizes contaminated heparin, meaning they realized that they can not could not trust company to destroy the product, or Celsus refused to destroy it. Clearly with reformed tort, does not represent any threat to businesses. With dozens of death reported, or more likely hundreds due to contaminated heparin, manufacture still in denial.
Gotta love republicans - market can do no wrong. - nypix, on 11/08/2008, -0/+6I have just read "China Road" by Rob Gifford, and now am in the middle of "River Town, Two Years on the Yangtze" by Peter Hessler and I'm not surprised by the contamination.
We're going to see it more and more from Chinese products. They've sacrificed all environmental concerns for the sake of industry. - inactive, on 11/08/2008, -0/+6And? Chinese isn't a race, it's a nationality.
- linagee, on 11/08/2008, -2/+7Calm down and have a chill pill. (Made in China, tainted with lead.)
- Jimbo51, on 11/08/2008, -0/+5http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6286 ...
- inactive, on 11/08/2008, -0/+4If they implement standards, they lose their edge.
Things that make China competitive:
1. No real unions.
2. The strength of the US dollar and other currencies compared to Chinese currency.
3. No real quality standards
4. No environmental policies.
5. The cheapness of transportation.
They already lost 2 and 5. They are currently losing 1. If they have to add costs to use quality merchandise and add costs to stop polluting, they lose their competitiveness.
I think OUR standards need to be higher. We should limit what can be imported from places like China, where there is little oversight. Anything that's food or healthcare shouldn't go through until they can guarantee they uphold the same standards we do. It's far from being the case right now.
So far, Chinese imports killed thousands of pets, poisoned countless toddlers, and even killed people. - mithrasinvictus, on 11/08/2008, -1/+5Because consumers don't care about how their products get made, only how cheap they are.
- Noein, on 11/08/2008, -3/+7Right, and absolutely nothing that's manufactured in US has ever been recalled. If the material was made by a US company, do you think the entire US manufactures tainted products? When you get cheap stuff, doesn't matter where it's made, sometimes you get what you paid for.
- banik2008, on 11/08/2008, -7/+10They're reckless, and do not care who they kill. Why does the world still do business with them?
- MadNuke, on 11/08/2008, -1/+4Stuff like this makes me wish the healthcare industry was more regulated
- newms32, on 11/08/2008, -0/+3take your blog and shove it up your ass
- secrity, on 11/08/2008, -0/+3I don't see recalls in the US for deliberately adulterated American made food and drugs. American companies weren't adding melamine to food to fool tests or selling ethylene glycol as a "glycerin substitute". How much American made paint contains lead?
- dilpil1, on 11/08/2008, -0/+3Hmm. As a republican zealot, I must wonder, how can I tie this into a ridiculous attack on universal healthcare?
- dododohead, on 11/08/2008, -0/+3Actually, i typically would come to backup China from some claims of contaminated goods, although these days its an undeniable problem. It pretty much harms everyone-Chinese or not.
there just needs to be some more serious standards. - alittleroy101, on 11/08/2008, -1/+4They will never understand this. If they had their way, we wouldn't have seatbelts or airbags either.
- alittleroy101, on 11/08/2008, -0/+3uh, lack of oversight helped create the financial meltdown. So your argument is wrong.
- steviesteveo, on 11/08/2008, -0/+3Clear SEO spam here - this user is trying to pad a blog's search result - Digg users shouldn't let this abuse happen
- adioz, on 11/08/2008, -1/+3np man, I don't like it either and I actually am a chinese.
- alittleroy101, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2Tort reform is one of the biggest scams sold to the American public.
- Ymeg, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2We would be out of debt by Monday!
- newms32, on 11/08/2008, -1/+3"absolutely nothing that's manufactured in US has ever been recalled"
This is not a relevant argument. Who said that nothing in the US has ever been recalled? Products from China are contaminated at a far higher rate than those in the US. How often do you see sixty thousand babies pop up with kidney stones here? - Murdats, on 11/08/2008, -3/+5who? america?
- hoopy22, on 11/08/2008, -0/+2Well stated. Concise and absolutely to the point.
- RiceLee22, on 11/09/2008, -0/+2It is neither the government or the common people.
One firm out of possibly thousands decide to cheat, by adding lead to fish, or melamine to milk, or lead to toys. The whole industry suffers for it.
Is it the everyday people of China's fault, that there's one greedy bastard who thinks he'll never get caught? No.
Is it the central government's fault, that one manufacturer decides to taint his products out of millions? Arguably, as the CCP is so very disorganized (and China so very large) it can't effectively enforce its product standards despite employing thousands to do this.
Is it the fault of all firms in that industry? Of course not.
So instead of saying 'China this' or generalize that, I want you to think for a second about how many people in China there is. - kemp34, on 11/09/2008, -0/+2There should be strict laws against poisons in consumer products, as well as MASSIVE laws against corruption in office. There should be industry groups (a la the NASD) that self-police. There should be broad community ethics enforcement amongst all the people at every level. People need to perform due diligence. This is the solution to this crap.
- newms32, on 11/08/2008, -0/+1you should probably study that issue a little more before you argue with anyone
- newms32, on 11/08/2008, -1/+2And we're supposed to believe that your comment isn't counterfeit?
- alittleroy101, on 11/08/2008, -1/+2The Chinese tried to poison my cat.
- RiceLee22, on 11/09/2008, -0/+1And the US privatizing their health care had such good results so far, right?
- inactive, on 11/08/2008, -1/+2yes, and for the last time, there's no such thing as a blood "thinner".
It's either an anti-coagulant or anti-platelet...
If a scientific website can't even get that simple fact right, then it affects my faith in the article...
edit: forgot to mention, the article seems like it limits heparin's usage to kidney dialysis and heart surgeries: wrong. - hoopy22, on 11/08/2008, -0/+1Hey you! Mr. Brilliant! Right..... the government will take care of it. They have such an excellent track record so far. If only they can manage the health system as well as they have the financial system.
- Noein, on 11/08/2008, -1/+2The point is when something made by your own country is recalled, you don't go OMG my country wants to kill me. But if it's some shady companies from China, the entire freaking nation of China is out to get you.
"Products from China are contaminated at a far higher rate than those in the US"
The quality of certain products from China is poorer because it's cheaper, you can't have the cake and eat it too. You want higher quality goods made from China? There are more reputable manufacturers in China too, guess what? They are not as cheap, which defeats the whole purpose of buying stuff from them in the first place.
"How much American made paint contains lead?"
Alot of them, just not for residential use, and not so long ago it was used everywhere. The health standard of many things in China is outdated comparing to US. Some goods that's above the standard in China might not make it in US. Heck even in US something that's OK in one state might not be OK in another state. They didn't add the lead as an extra just to poison us.
I am not defending the Chinese made crap. The point is when you buy cheap *****, you get *****. Immortal manufacturers who cut corners exist everywhere. You want high quality goods? Do your homework, buy made in US, support the country. But don't turn this into a anti-Chinese thing. - weister42, on 11/08/2008, -2/+2One Black guy did something bad and everyone thinks all Black guys are bad. We import millions of products from China everyday safely so anyone who's saying let's boycott all China's products is on crack. There are no house in America that doesn't have at least 10 things that are made in China. Sure you can buy everything made from the US, that is if you want to pay $20 for 50 plastic cups or $70 for a simple remote control.
Shop smart, not cheap. - hoopy22, on 11/08/2008, -1/+1I agree with the boycott principal, however, it makes me red in the face when I'm looking for a manufactured good, read the label on all of the choices, and find that they are ALL made in China. When I find any non-China product, I buy even if I have to pay more.
- inactive, on 11/08/2008, -2/+2We will learn when we have an alternative. Unfortunately, they pretty much make all our *****, and they've got us by the balls.
- inactive, on 11/08/2008, -3/+3Because we all know that the COUNTRY isn't making the products. The people are.
- inactive, on 11/08/2008, -6/+5***** China...and their freaking chun-li
- newms32, on 11/08/2008, -3/+2because white guilt means some people view any criticism directed at non-whites as racism
- jynweythek, on 11/08/2008, -4/+3maybe when we finally nationalize our health system we can make our own medicine instead of buying it from ***** china
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