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- cogitocogito, on 11/05/2009, -3/+18Misleading. The vaccine is only being distributed to members of CDC-defined high risk groups:
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/conten ... - JumboJ3t, on 11/05/2009, -4/+12In related news, I'm in a high-risk group with a pretty bad case of asthma, and I'm really glad that these societal elite are getting vaccinated before I, a lowly software developer, can get it. They definitely deserve it.
- snotrokit, on 11/05/2009, -7/+14Apparently they feel that keeping Wall Street healthy is much more important than our children, seniors, pregnant women and people with existing medical conditions.
- JumboJ3t, on 11/05/2009, -2/+8Sorry-- I just dugg a story about church for dogs-- so when I read this title (before the part in parentheses), I said to myself, "Man, people take this pet thing way too far." I'm allergic to cats and dogs. I have a bird instead. Totally irrelevant at this point in the comment.
- twishart, on 11/06/2009, -1/+6Oh I thought it was for real cats and I was like wtf
- VitriolAndAngst, on 11/06/2009, -0/+4I'm not sure the government does control distribution.
All these things are now done by private companies for profit -- so yes, private companies often give the early goods to the well healed market.
It's not like this is about the public good after all. - starlon2, on 11/06/2009, -0/+4What? Skinny cats don't get the same treatment? WTF is this noise, Digg?
- WordsnCollision, on 11/05/2009, -7/+10More proof that corporate America and their friends in government just don't get it. There is a profound disconnect between average citizens and what is being looked upon as a privileged class.
- lurrch1, on 11/06/2009, -0/+3They won't be safe from the zombie virus.
- Memitim, on 11/06/2009, -0/+3There has to be some benefits to providing massive payouts to their employees in Congress. Otherwise, what's the point?
- gaymathman, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2I think that the majority of people visiting a pediatrician would fall under the purview of one of the above categories, i.e. being .5 to 24 years old or caring for an infant. That being said, I'd think that they'd have to start rationing it fairly readily, I know that my college is still just handing out vaccines to older staff right now, as there just isn't enough to vaccinate healthy young people right now.
- Fleagleman, on 11/06/2009, -3/+5That's the plan. They get the bailout money, the vaccine, your house, and eventually...the WORLD!!! We'll all be sold like property as indentured servants.
- twishart, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2Bird Flu - no one is safe.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2We will be replaced by robots.
What makes you think that they want to "sell" anyone? I think they are done with the common man about two weeks after they can replace him.
Quietly, at first, some hot version of your wife shows up in your bed. Sure, her eyes look vacant, but she does everything you want and gets your beer. It's the perfect plan. - govsucks, on 11/06/2009, -1/+3http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1flu/vaccination/statelocal/ ...
- beachtrader, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2Not true. Our pediatrician's office has it and is distributing to ANYONE who wants it.
- Mothrog, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2And just to cut to the chase of the article:
"Health-care workers at those employers are bound by the CDC to distribute the vaccine only to populations deemed to be at high risk of developing serious complications from swine flu: pregnant women, children and young people aged 6 months to 24 years, people who live with or provide care for infants under 6 months (who cannot be vaccinated), people aged 24 to 64 with medical conditions that put them at higher risk for flu-related complications, and health-care workers and emergency medical personnel."
In other words, they can still only give it to high risk patients, too. - Fleagleman, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2No, that's what the wealthy get--a hot robot wife who doesn't talk back. We, on the other hand (that is--those of us who survive) will be slaves.
- 4degrees, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1those guys spend so much time licking each other's butt its probably a good idea.
- tza999, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1No, what is apparent is that some have deeper pockets than others. In America, where money talks and buys you ANYTHING, was there ever a doubt that the ones ballin out of control on our money also have access to acquire very hard to reach objects? Durka, durka.
- aztekm30, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1I don't want to wish death upon anyone but.....
- LenBaird, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1They are definitely douche bags who see us as peons. They like to play games to trick the peons into doing what they want, like taking the shots.
- nathanbutnet, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1I am convinced the wizard behind the curtain is trying to make my head explode. Well, wizard, I have a really big, hard head so ***** go for it bastard.
- publiclurker, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1Well, somebody has to make the robots.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1@govsucks -- sure, the CDC does have a program to distribute SOME vaccine. But that's just a portion bought from companies like Monsanto at the price the company wants and in the amount they want to give.
If Monsanto/McKesson/whoever want's to make friends -- it's going to reserve some for that group.
"government" distribution, is only from that which the Government is allowed to get, and based upon how much money and largess that Monsanto and other pharma companies wish to bestow.
The Government buys SOME of the Vaccine, and distributes that. It does NOT allocate where most of the vaccine goes unless the President chooses to get involved. At any time, he could declare an emergency and just tell them what to do. - gaymathman, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1They are only getting a small quantity of vaccines. It is in their best interest to vaccinate those who are at risk only.
- pinchduck, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1People with money buy rare things. Is this a surprise to you? Really?
Now ask yourself: Under the current health care reform proposal, would this happen?
The answer is yes. Yes it would. Because you could completely overhaul our system, redesign it from top to bottom, and rich people would still buy rare things, including vaccines. - gaymathman, on 11/06/2009, -1/+2In all actuality, the trading floors of Wall Street are a far better medium for transmitting germs than the average health-care facility. It makes sense to ensure that people who are at risk and have to work in confined areas with many other people get vaccinated fairly early. That being said, I really don't think that anybody who is healthy should get a vaccine yet; the elderly and sick are having a hard enough time of it as things are with the somewhat limited vaccine supply.
- cawfee, on 11/06/2009, -2/+2"The plot of Deus Ex depicts a society on a slow spiral into chaos. A lethal pandemic known as the "Gray Death" ravages the world's population, especially within the United States, and has no cure. A synthetic vaccine, "Ambrosia", manufactured by the company VersaLife, nullifies the effects of the virus, but is in critically short supply. Because of its scarcity, Ambrosia is available only to those deemed "vital to the social order", and finds its way primarily to government officials, military personnel, the rich and influential, scientists, and the intellectual elite."
Hmmmm. - publiclurker, on 11/06/2009, -1/+1Just where are you inbred simpletons coming up with the bull about an untested vaccine?
- publiclurker, on 11/06/2009, -1/+1You know just because you have no facts on your side does not mean that you can simple lie to cover up your failings.
- snotrokit, on 11/06/2009, -2/+2aaaaand we trust that Goldman and Citi will do what they are supposed to right?
- dralezero, on 11/06/2009, -1/+1Makes me laugh all these people lining up to get their poison.
- Mothrog, on 11/06/2009, -2/+2Nice to see that in addition to stoking the fires of unwarranted H1N1 hysteria, the media is now folding in to it their populist horse *****.
- zeroskin, on 11/06/2009, -0/+0The government has a multi-billion dollar contract with McKesson Corporation to be the sole distributor of the H1N1 vaccine. McKesson is the world's largest healthcare services company (fortune 15) and delivers 1/3 of all drugs used in the US daily.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 11/06/2009, -2/+2You might be right. Or they might just be douche bags who just see the elite and the peons in their world view.
However, I find it highly unlikely that we have a working anti-virus yet. So I don't plan on clamoring for some unproven immunization against something that is less deadly than athletes foot. - rnews4u, on 11/06/2009, -1/+1Hold out Hope. Maybe they will see the light and give to those really in need of vaccination. Like I said "hold out hope".............. don't hold your breath!!
- mitch88, on 11/06/2009, -2/+1MARXIST revolutions can only work if the so called lower classes start to hate the rich.
Why else would BO and his marxist buddies take BILLIONS from us - hand it over to the rich Wall Street guys - tell them they could pay their bonuses *AND THEN* start screaming about over paid execs?
Did any of the whiners think of the economic consequences if the flu knocked out a lot of the workers there?
Occur to anyone why the leaders of the country have special bomb shelters?
Come on folks lets think!
ALL OF THE SUDDEN THERE IS A HOST OF THIS CRAP BEING PUBLISHED:
New Zealand mayor: Pay 'appalling underclass' not to breed...
Big bonuses and bigger deficits are driving new waves of populist anger -- DailyFinance
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/10/25/big-bonuses ...
Rich 'may evolve into separate species'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/evolution/64326 ...
Pelosi Health Care Bill Blows a Kiss to Trial Lawyers
by Capitol Confidential
The health care bill recently unveiled by Speaker Nancy Pelosi is over 1,900 pages for a reason. It is much easier to dispense goodies to favored interest groups if they are surrounded by a lot of legislative legalese. For example, check out this juicy morsel to the trial lawyers (page 1431-1433 of the bill):
Section 2531, entitled “Medical Liability Alternatives,” establishes an incentive program for states to adopt and implement alternatives to medical liability litigation. [But]…… a state is not eligible for the incentive payments if that state puts a law on the books that limits attorneys’ fees or imposes caps on damages.
So, you can’t try to seek alternatives to lawsuits if you’ve actually done something to implement alternatives to lawsuits. Brilliant! The trial lawyers must be very happy today!
Attorney Constantine Xinos is quite supportive of staff layoffs at the library due to budget shortfalls. After an 11 yr old girl spoke against layoffs Xinos spoke : "Those who come up here with tears in their eyes put your money where your mouth is," he fumed. He characterized the girl's remarks as "whining" punctuated by "crocodile tears," and said the town had to "stop indulging people in
their hobbies" and "their little, personal, private wants." When asked
later about his gruff treatment of an 11-year-old, Xinos -- who
escorted a reporter into his gated community in his Mercedes for the
interview -- confirmed he "wanted that kid to lose sleep that night."
Xinos was successful in his previous bid to stop a city project: a
senior housing complex. "I don't want to live next to poor people," he
said at the time. "I don't want poor people in my town." (Arlington
Heights Daily Herald) http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=325508 - LenBaird, on 11/06/2009, -4/+3This is a flim flam operation. They claim there is a shortage, and that the hated bankers all got shots, and suddenly everyone is pissed and demands their vaccine.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 11/06/2009, -2/+1There aren't many studies showing that anti-flu vaccines even work -- even like 3% and very, very few double-blind studies to rule out placebo effects.
Just because you inject a virus into an egg shell, doesn't mean the anti-histimines created by the chicken (that's what we put in the vaccine) are targeting something useful. And it doesn't mean that if it works on THAT virus, that the latest surge of the virus hasn't mutated.
It takes around 18 months currently to make a vaccine -- and there is no quality control I've heard of that stands in the way of this multi billion dollar enterprise that checks to see if it actually works.
publiclurker -- Hopefully you were informed by a "simpleton." It will help you get ready to listen to smart people. - VitriolAndAngst, on 11/06/2009, -3/+2Normally, I'd be annoyed by they being at the front of the line -- as if they served a useful purpose to society. But in this case, with an un-tested and rushed anti-viral, when there isn't much proof that flu vaccines work -- much less the health benefits of some of that junk they put in their to get your immune system engaged -- let them be my Guinea Pig.
- bashnu, on 11/06/2009, -2/+1Swine flu ain't that bad, due to it's hype your boss begs you to stay at home, paid, you sleep like hell, its winter, yet you feel like you are in jamaica, hallucinate when you sleep, and your lover obeys your every whimper.
Thank you media hype.
***** now its my turn to take of her. - Nedd8, on 11/06/2009, -3/+1Part of the ploy to try to drum up support for this vaccine in the skeptical public. Here you go, asleeple! http://blogs.healthfreedomalliance.org/blog/2009/1 ...
- govsucks, on 11/06/2009, -7/+3Who controls the distribution of the vaccine? Oh yeah, the government. I'm sure this kind of this won't happen with healthcare though. If we ever do have a single payer system, I'm sure we'll all get exactly the same fine treatment that the rich and politicians get.
/s - Meor, on 11/06/2009, -5/+1Isn't this the premise of the word "option" in public option? People "can" go to private care if they want?
Admit it, you hate rich people and want to see them fail.


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