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- Cate320, on 06/26/2008, -1/+59How does women forgetting to take it = not working well? It works fine if you take it properly. If you get pregnant because you don't, well that is your fault, not the pills.
"The Pill is an outdated method because it does not work well enough. It is very difficult for ordinary women to take a pill every single day. The beauty of the implant or the IUD is that you can forget about them."
Difficult? Really? If you are THAT forgetful, just get one of those wonderful weekly, or even monthly pill boxes that old people often have and keep it next to where ever you drink your morning OJ or coffee. I mean seriously, people manage to take all sorts of other daily medications, why should BC be any different? - Memnochxx, on 06/26/2008, -2/+49Pill is fine, people are stupid.
- scooterbaga, on 06/25/2008, -2/+37How does 'few women taking it correctly' equal 1 in 12?
...Sounds like most of them are getting it right. - sugarazor, on 06/26/2008, -2/+25"The contraceptive Pill is outdated and leading to unwanted pregnancies and abortion as few women take it correctly"
That's like saying aspirin is outdated because people forget to take it when they have a headache. The pill can't work if you don't take it, but if you remember, it works just fine. - 3toe, on 06/26/2008, -1/+23So...what? They are ineffective because they aren't taking them? Condoms are 100% ineffective if you don't use them, either.
- LaurenElder, on 06/25/2008, -1/+20I'm with aussia but I also think it's quite easy to remember to take a pill everyday. It may be a little hard at first since it's not in your routine yet, but if you don't wanna get pregnant, you'll remember!!
- Caitiedid1011, on 06/26/2008, -1/+19Take the pill or get pregnant. Why is that not enough of an incentive to remember to take it? Geez.
Outdated and forgetful are two very different things.
Also, if a woman realizes she keeps forgetting wouldn't she...logically....look into other alternatives that would be more effective for her anyway.
"It is very difficult for ordinary women to take a pill every single day"
Prof James Trussell, Princeton University"
I'm an ordinary women and I seem to remember everyday. Thanks Mr. Trussell for your generalizations. - sgiffy, on 06/25/2008, -0/+16Well the pill coupled with condoms is pretty much 100% effective. You would have to ***** up monumentally to get knocked up. But condoms can be lame.
Once the male pill comes out, that coupled with the female pill should make it pretty easy to avoid pregnancy. Not that its that hard now. - aussia, on 06/25/2008, -0/+15I'm not entirely sure I'm comfortable with his call for everyone to be on IUDs, since they have their own issues (although I might be biased, since I'm currently having drama with mine). I do think new technologies, or new delivery methods, should be investigated!
- TheHeat, on 06/26/2008, -3/+17Make the pill addictive! That way they can't wait to take it. Have a test, if they're dumb enough to forget to take it - give them the addictive pill.
While we're at it, the pill should be mandatory to all women unless they score a certain rate on an IQ test. Population control, let's start it. - Apeezee, on 06/26/2008, -1/+14It is NOT outdated. People are retarded. If taken correctly, oral contraceptives have near 99.99% effectiveness in preventing pregnancy. It is a problem with the USER not the drug.
- alpha88, on 06/26/2008, -0/+12If you use the pill and the condom together and correctly, you have about a 1 in 10,000 chance of getting a girl pregnant.
- dudefaceguyman, on 06/26/2008, -0/+12More of a reason to find an even easier alternative to prevent these morons from procreating.
- merien, on 06/26/2008, -0/+12"Half of all pregnancies in America are unintended and half of those happen because contraception failed or was not taken properly, the rest were not using any contraception."
Wow. - c0mputar, on 06/26/2008, -1/+13Women not following the instructions and now it's the pill's fault?
- sersdf, on 06/26/2008, -0/+10Well, keep in mind that people who do these studies are less interested in karma than they are about public health. When we talk about the efficacy of a drug, we must take into account compliance/adherence. Condoms are something like 90% effective in practice, but 99.5%+ effective when used properly. Drugs that need to be taken daily are a pain the ass, which is why drugs delivered by patches have higher compliance (and thus, overall efficacy) rates. Doctors do not want to blame patients for their difficulties in using contraceptive or pharmaceutical measures (though sometimes, of course, we do).
The article's pretty sensationalist anyways. The pill is fantastic and is not going anywhere. The future, in my opinion, is stuff like Seasonale/Seasonique: there's no reason for 28-day periods when you can get away with 4 a year, perhaps fewer. - D14852001neko, on 06/26/2008, -1/+10The pill itself is working as it should... the problem is that the persons taking them forget its not a magical pill, and later blame the pill for their mistakes!
- phazyme, on 06/26/2008, -0/+9Speaking as a pharmacist, one of the downsides to IUDs is that if a person gets a sexually transmitted infection, the IUD can worsen the infection. Thus, they are recommended for women in long term relationships.
As an alternative, there are plastic rings embedded with hormonal contraceptives that a woman can insert into her vagina and will last for a month.
Furthermore, read the packaging carefully on what to do when you miss a pill, as a pill taken late will still help significantly in reducing the chance of ovulation and unwanted pregnancies. - zmjone2992, on 06/26/2008, -1/+10So noncompliance = the pill doesn't work?
- TheCatsPants, on 06/26/2008, -1/+10If you have such a low opinion of women, perhaps you should just stay away from them altogether. If you are sleeping around like that you should always wear a condom to protect yourself from STDs. Lets face it, if a person is easy with you, they'll probably be easy with everyone else.
- yacks, on 06/26/2008, -0/+8if it's not hard, I don't think it's going in to begin with..
- bxblox, on 06/26/2008, -1/+9"One in 12 women taking the Pill get pregnant each year because they miss so many tablets"
Soooo whats wrong with the pills again? - greatgatsbyII, on 06/26/2008, -0/+8So you want to put the pill in Chocolate?
- AnonBuffalo, on 06/26/2008, -2/+9or maybe they should just remember to take it.
I always find it both ironic and sad that the consequences of stupidity are children. - CaptainChad, on 06/26/2008, -0/+6Huh?
- ThinkIcouldburn, on 06/26/2008, -1/+7Actually, it's about 11%. That's if you have sex once. If you have sex once a month for several months, the odds of the woman becoming pregnant becomes MUCH higher.
It's not worth the risk. Use a condom. - WiseAcre, on 06/26/2008, -0/+6Hooray! Eugenics!
- Hangly, on 06/26/2008, -0/+6Lots of Hindi movies have the heroine taking a spill down the stairs and either dying or losing her baby.
- Frostek, on 06/26/2008, -0/+5How about introducing a system where sterility is the default and you'd need to consume some form of substance in order to be able to conceive? (For the paranoid, this substance could be manufactured using alternative methods available to pretty much anyone.)
That way, we wouldn't have a situation where stupid action result in children. It would take a conscious action to produce a child, the way it should be for any civilised species. - TheCatsPants, on 06/26/2008, -1/+6Exactly! I've never missed mine ever. It can sometimes be tricky if you travel and are in a different time-zone, but you should be able to work it out. You've also got a 12 hour window in which you can take the pill, so you've got a half day to catch up if you forget.
- cheshireluna, on 06/26/2008, -0/+5I'm not a medic, but I did a ton of research before I got my IUD. There are 2 IUDs commonly used today, the Mirena, and the Paraguard. IUDs got a bad rep because a bunch of people died in the 70s because of an IUD called the Dalkon Shield, which used a string that had a nasty tendency to wick fluid from the vagina into the uterus, causing horrible infections. Todays IUDs are widely considered safe.
The Mirena advertises that it's only for women who have already had a child, but my doctor was willing to do one for me because the reason it's advertised for women who have given birth is that it makes the insertion process much easier. The insertion process is pretty damn unpleasant if I'm being honest. IUDs are expensive, but in my case, my insurance covered the IUD, but not the nuvaring, which I was on before. Also, you have to look at the long term cost. $600 for an IUD sucks, but it'll last you for 5 years. That's only $10/month, which is a hell of a lot less than I was paying for the ring.
Also, if your doctor won't do the IUD, look into the implant. I've heard good things. - TheCatsPants, on 06/26/2008, -0/+5You don't have to take it at the same time every day. You have *12 hours* to remember it. If a Pill is missed then there's always condoms for a spell or the "morning-after" pill or abstinence for a few days.. I know that Pills don't come with alarms, but how about a wristwatch alarm to remind you. :-)
The Pill is safe and very reliable. The IUD carries risks that could make you infertile, so that's why it's not recommended unless you already have children. If something goes wrong you might not ever have children. The 5 year thing - not sure about that, is it the maximum lifetime for an IUD coil, or is it because the procedure itself is only worth doing if the person is commited to a 5 year period? Any medics here? - iwantamonkey, on 06/26/2008, -0/+5For starters, there's a lot of people mocking those women who have a hard time taking the Pill at the same time every day. Well, do you remember to put air in your tires every month, clean out your cat's litter box, or brush your teeth (at the same time!) every day? Some people need alarms, obviously, but Pills don't come with them.
Anyway my main reason for commenting is that I'd gladly get an IUD installed. I see an ad for one on TV pretty often, but it says it's only for women who have had a kid. Well I haven't had a kid but I can guarantee I don't want one anytime soon. I'd say it'll be a minimum of three years until I want to get pregnant. Then the ad says they can take it out if you want to get pregnant sooner... so why do they say it should be in for five years?
Anyway, I haven't gotten an IUD because they're expensive. That's the only reason. Offer free IUDs and sterilizations for men and women and you'll be amazed at how many takers you get. - TurboBeard, on 06/26/2008, -0/+5lol. What?
- darkane, on 06/26/2008, -2/+7My favorite quote from the articles is: "It is very difficult for ordinary women to take a pill every single day."
I had no idea that you had to be an extraordinary woman to take three seconds out of your day to swallow a ***** pill. Further proof that intelligence is not a requirement to be a professor at a 'respectable' university. - alpha88, on 06/26/2008, -0/+4If they were using it correctly, 1 in 1000 would get pregnant, according to statistics.
- skyshock1, on 06/26/2008, -2/+6Nuvaring. It's the *****.
- Hangly, on 06/26/2008, -1/+5If Bollywood movies have taught me anything it's that the best contraception in the world is having stairs in your house.
- vckeating, on 06/26/2008, -0/+3But let's face it, this isn't surprising. Digg has always been littered with misogynistic attitudes.
- TheCatsPants, on 06/26/2008, -1/+4How did I imply you were a virgin?
- Archer007, on 06/26/2008, -0/+3Mad Lib that and it applies to everything.
- bizkit00, on 06/26/2008, -1/+4whichever pharmaceutical company comes out with the male pill first is going to get really rich really quick, i dont know why they dont put more effort into research.
- bombula, on 06/26/2008, -0/+3My wife just tried an IUD for a few months. Didn't like it at all. She was basically always on the edge of PMS or a period, had spotting and breakthrough bleeding all the time, got crampy and uncomfortable all the time. After 5 months, she switched back to the pill and is now much happier and more comfortable. And unlike the morons in the article, she doesn't find it that difficult to remember to take it everyday. Seriously, is it that hard - just do it when you brush your teeth. Do you forget to brush your teeth? "Doesn't work" my ass. That's like saying seatbelts "don't work" because people forget to wear them. Of course they ***** work. If you're a moron you're going to have accidents - life sucks, get a ***** helmet.
- robotabot, on 06/26/2008, -0/+3speaking from experience, cell phone alarm + pills in purse = not that hard. 1 in 12 women are pretty damn stupid, especially if they know they miss pills and continue to rely on the pill as their only form of birth control.
the real challenge is figuring out creative ways to use the placebos. drop them in sorority girls' drinks? tell stupid people they're ecstasy? the possibilities are endless... - Balath, on 06/26/2008, -0/+3You're allowed to miss one at certain times of the month, or more depending on what type of pill it is. A "missed" pill can be safely taken anywhere between an hour to four hours late (again depending on its composition).
As you yourself say, "The article fails to mention that 'long-lasting methods' are only provided to women that have already given birth &/or that are in a long term relationship & are considered to be less safe."
For those and other reasons, the pill is the best method for a lot of women. - bjs3171, on 06/26/2008, -0/+3i don't know...sounds like the plot to some creepy scifi novel.
- Hamletlere, on 06/26/2008, -0/+3Those statistics sound like a random distribution of sexual activity (3 fertile days out of a 28 day cycle gives around an 11% chance).
However, that doesn't take into account that a woman's desire for sex during the fertile period spikes, making sex on those days much more likely. - tdogg241, on 06/26/2008, -0/+3Good thing I've only had sex 9,999 times. Looks like it's celibacy-time for me!
- cheshireluna, on 06/26/2008, -0/+2Which long lasting methods are you referring to? The IUD is typically recommended for women who have already given birth because the insertion process (in my experience anyway) hurts like a bitch if you haven't had kids because the cervix is so tight, but you can still have one if you haven't had kids. It's also only an option if you're in a monogamous relationship because of the increased risk of PID. The strings for the IUD make it a bit easier for a STI to travel into the uterus itself, which is a bad bad thing. However, the implant doesn't have such restrictions (at least not that my doctor made me aware of.) Obviously, you don't want to be having unprotected sex with some random guy just because you're not going to get pregnant, but really, that should be common sense by now.
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