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- teh_spazz, on 10/29/2009, -2/+11"I'm feeling kind of like I did when I found out that John Edwards cheated on his wife," Kellie Sloan Brown wrote on her blog.
What the *****? It's a bottle. Stop making a big fuss about something so useless. - Gorzki, on 10/29/2009, -3/+11I refill and reuse plastic water bottles. Should I? Probably not, but I'm cheap. I'm also not sucked into this generation of people who are germ and cancer-phobic for themselves or their children. When I was a kid, I ingested all sorts of nasty *****, and I still do unhealthy things. I don't drink or smoke or do drugs though, so I consider myself fine. So they lied, who ***** cares? IT'S A GODAMN WATER BOTTLE. GET THE ***** OVER IT. EVERYTHING gives you cancer now days anyway, so why fuss over this? Don't like it? Carry around a glass bottle then.
- robszol, on 10/29/2009, -2/+9Way to go *****.
- inactive, on 10/29/2009, -0/+5yes..you are missing something. there was no blatant fraud. theynever said it was BPA free. Just that their studies showed it leeched no BPA into the awter. And that is true.
You could drink a zillion gallons of water from the old Sigg bottles..PER DAY./...and not have an increased risk of cancer. - akatsuki, on 10/29/2009, -0/+5Avoiding BPA isn't "green". It is about avoiding a potentially hazardous product, sorta like lead paint in children's toys.
Green would be to evaluate the different bottles in terms of total CO2 and other pollutant production and then make a choice. Your complaint would be to do that calculation not taking into account your current item and then dump your current item for the new one. - thesha1, on 10/29/2009, -2/+6buy KleanKanteen instead....it's totally stainless steel and it rules.
http://www.kleankanteen.com/ - sonicpentatonic, on 10/29/2009, -3/+7FTA: "Like many parents I know, a couple years ago I tossed all the baby bottles I had — and any suspect sippies too — and invested in SIGGs, which cost about $20 each."
This is my problem with a lot of the green movement now. They will discard the old "green" product in favor of the newest, hottest, "greenest" product out there without any consideration for the fact that the very act of throwing this old stuff away and replacing it with the newest thing is still wasteful. Maybe the author replaced their bottles for health concerns, premature as they may have been, but I see this type of waste among those who are going green because it is trendy now.
/rant - Dr3w, on 10/29/2009, -0/+3I was going more for a GW jab, but apparently enough time has passed that jokes about him are passé. *sigh*
- StevZissou, on 10/29/2009, -0/+3THEY DIDNT LIE! The bpa used in pre-2008 SIGG's doesn't leech like it did in Nalgenes etc, and that is what the company said "our products do not leech bpa". Nice BS story time. And to all those people who are upset: Learn to ***** read.
Edit: And btw, so called green companies are only out to make a buck like every other company on the planet. They just use the green shtick to move units. - popstation, on 10/29/2009, -1/+4"bisphenol-A (BPA), a controversial chemical used to harden plastics, which some studies have linked to diabetes, premature puberty in girls and reduced sperm count in men."
[X] Diabetes
[√] Premature Puberty in girls*
[X] Reduced Sperm Count
*Pedobear - palehorse864, on 10/29/2009, -1/+3If you're worried about the stuff in plastic, why buy the aluminum outside but plastic inside bottle? Couldn't you find a bpa free plastic bottle? It wouldn't be as durable, but it doesn't seem to make a huge difference as far as drinking it goes.
- Dr3w, on 10/29/2009, -1/+3"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again."
- jakereilly, on 10/29/2009, -4/+6Looks like SIGG is really gonna be drowning in bad publicity.
- palehorse864, on 10/29/2009, -0/+2I believe they have that saying in England as well. I believe Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey were familiar with it.
- 1hrSleep, on 10/29/2009, -0/+1He's not the only one. Lots of people mistakenly believe it was BPA free and not just BPA leech proof. It's sad SIGG's taking so much flack for something so meaningless.
- Dr3w, on 10/29/2009, -0/+1I like your style palehorse864, and I tip my hat to you, sir :)
- R3publican, on 10/29/2009, -0/+1That would be too dangerous. The glass could break and cut you.
- palehorse864, on 10/29/2009, -0/+1Heh, I recognized it, but I sometimes like to build on a joke, especially when another reference presents itself.
- R3publican, on 10/29/2009, -0/+1I'm remodeling a couple of rooms in my house. I keep getting people trying to sell me "green" products. Somehow they think gutting two complete rooms and hauling the mess to a landfill can be considered green.
- askantik, on 10/29/2009, -0/+1Not always, the big companies selling green lines of products are doing that (like P&G and SC Johnson and Clorox), but not some of these tiny companies with a niche market (like Seventh Generation or Ecover).
- R3publican, on 10/29/2009, -0/+1I drink from the faucet.
- ToasterHead219, on 10/29/2009, -3/+3http://mysigg.com/liner/ find out which liner you have. the old one has bpas. you have until the 31st of october to exchange it. http://www.mysigg.com/bulletin/exchange_program.ht ... so its probably too late.
- kharris0203, on 10/29/2009, -0/+0Wait a minute... if it HAS BPA in the plastic, then the whole controversy is based on the belief that it does leech some BPA into liquids! It may not be fully proven yet, but your semantic games hold no sway at all with me. The company lied about the BPA content of its liners, and there is a real possibility that those liners leeched BPA into the liquids that people drank from those bottles. The fraud itself is a serious offense, though I will submit that proving damages will be difficult at this point.
- uruururr, on 10/29/2009, -1/+1nalgene bottles are better.
- inactive, on 10/29/2009, -3/+2What a bunch of whining bitches. The bottles never leeched BPA into the water.
- sandman979, on 10/29/2009, -4/+1Whoever spends the amount of money those bottles cost is an idiot and deserve to be treated as such.
- r2builder, on 10/29/2009, -7/+4Looks like Time unscrewed the cap of the SIGG scandal.
- kharris0203, on 10/29/2009, -5/+1Am I missing something here? Why is no one talking about jail time for the blatant fraud by SIGG company execs?? Instead we're talking about exchanging bottles and trusting the company with new bottles... but thousands of people were knwingly duped into buying expensive bottles based on them being BPA-free, anf these people may have been exposed to dangerous chemicals. In some cases, INFANTS were exposed because of the fraud. Where's the accountability?? Or is this sort of thing OK now?
- reiner15, on 10/29/2009, -9/+1I sent my sigg back. Not because I was bothered by the trace amounts of BPA, but because it was getting a bit grimey and dinged up.
When I did the checkout for my free replacement, I can't remember how many thousands of dollars is said I had left on my "gift card" code.
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