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- sodade, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9When I was a poor student, I once got paid $500 to let them test some new super deep Anesthesia drug. The ***** was so severe that they had someone forcing me to breathe while I was out. I had this really insane acid trip like dream that freaked me out so much that I wouldn't let my girlfriend do it.
I say we take people who were given the death penalty and offer them a choice to live on as tester rabbits. - ddxChrist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6At university, there is a tendency for researchers to post offers wherever possible because there is a ton of desperate students willing to make a few bucks. The debt racks up pretty fast, you know.
- neuropsychguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'm all for being a guinea pig in research studies. I draw the line at anything that looks more than a little benign but if someone wants to pay me $100 to wear a portable blood pressure monitor or pay me to have an EEG, I'm as happy as can be to participate. Drug studies are a different matter and to participate regularly I think you'd have to have a certain personality type.
- Jonsey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I can't really see my self ever saying "AND I GOT A FREE COLONSCOPY!" not something I really every want to do!
- WildTang3nt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4To OP, there was only ever one nuclear test in New Mexico. Don't be a dumb-*****.
- Ninnux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3As someone who does translational cancer research at BCM, I can't even begin to convey to you how stupid "going pro" would be.
- smackhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3it probably just shows that the wired demographic is very similar to the digg demographic--which wouldn't surprise me. they also have pretty good articles.
- Mexrocker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This really cute girl who said she was from Columbia University came up to me while I was sitting around waiting for my first class to start and ask if I wanted to participate in a study. I was told I would get paid and what not; so I asked her to continue...
turns out it they were going to inject a dead HIV virus into my system... >_>.
I need the money, but not that bad. - HayString, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Holy *****! This article has inspired me to become a guinea pig myself. ***** working a real job!
- DeathJux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I have noticed that every major article from the newest issue of Wired has ended up on the front page. Now, is this an indication of the good quality of the articles, or is there something more sinister afoot? (pay-per-diggs, staff members, digging, etc)
- nodnarb24, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Haha, I don't think getting a camera up your butt is that much of an incentive. I was offered a free colonoscopy before from some GI nurses at a hospital I used to work at because I was so nice to them. I declined their invitation.
- scotticus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They test orally dosed drugs too.
- Aliarse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1After the most recent UK drug testing study that was in the news, i'm going to have to say :
Thanks, but no thanks. - scotticus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1good point. I'm retarded.
- futureisours, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Might not be a too bad way to live if you enjoy that kind of thing. I'd be too nervous if they were poking me around. I'd rather sit around an office job making way more money, but putting up with other kinds of pressure.
- richofsilence, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yes, and how do you think they track the results of the oral drugs?
That's right! Blood tests. - HigherLogic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Tests vary in length depending on what they are testing, as does the price (if any).
I took part in a clinical drug test for IBS-D. They gave you a colonoscopy (typically a $1000 procedure and would remove any pollups, at no cost even if you had no insurance), and then you had to take medication, either the real thing or placebo.
You were evaluated for 2 weeks, and then if you responded well, you continued with the study for up to 6 months. There was no compensation other than the fact that you were taking a new treatment that could relieve the symptoms, which is well worth the "not getting paid" if you have it. - istrikelast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1After reading this, I did some research on finding clinical trials in my area and the Biotrax website as well as the GPGP site linked in the article, in addition to some other Google search results revealed some great info.
A lot of the trials I came across that I seemed eligible for seemed rather painless. Mostly psych tests (effects of stress and depression and the like) and studies in this particular area.
I would love more info on this if any of you guys have any. My interest is piqued. - huxleyan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I know lots of my friends in college did testing for a place that was about an hour's drive away. Usually they were Friday Night, Saturday, and Sunday Morning. You would take the drug, they would do a set number of blood draws and then on Sunday you would go home. It was around $500. They did have a program for referrals and the Resident Director of my dorm signed up an entire floor, he cleared over $8000 that year. They stopped that program.
None of my friends ever had any problems. It was usually very, very benign things like a new type of generic Aspirin.
That said, I would not make a career out of it, but if you need money there are worse options out there. - slkuhn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Quite an interesting commentary; but alas, I cannot stand the thought of needles entering my body. So I think I will just pass.
- Malik112099, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1RIGHT.
That was three years ago. Since then, Nick, 36, has become a full-time guinea pig. He has participated in some two dozen studies, shuttling between test labs in Baltimore; Boston; Fargo, North Dakota; and Trenton, New Jersey. He has earned a total of $80,000
Over the course of 3 years he has made $80,000. That means no matter how long he had to actually "work" for it, he has had to live off of it for 3 years (assuming he has no other source of income). - tize, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1wrong. The article said he has completed roughly 2-dozen tests.
I assume and average length per test as 2 weeks(14 days), hell lets say its 3weeks just to give leeway.
If he did 24 3-week studies thats only about 18 months of work.
So that comes out to about 2,880 hours of work at $28~/hr.
Now you can argue your case if you take into account all of the in-patient hours, but I assume most of those were spent sleeping or watching tv.
my guess is, he was making enough money to survive and was didnt feel the need to make more. - j0e2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0if this is interesting, you should check out jim hogshire's great book. http://www.amazon.com/Sell-Yourself-Science-Complete-Functions/dp/1559500840
- davidual, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0
The link to the ?Federal election Commission is: http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/srssea.shtml - tize, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1WRONG. It says that hes earned $80,000 from tests alone. That doesnt mean he didn't have a side job, or generates income in another way.
- davidual, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well, I have not posted on Digg before and did not know you can't post hyper links. Therefore, the CDC link is: http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/adhd/confepi.htm and the DEA link is: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/cngrtest/ct051600.htm. Aww, whatever, nobody will look at anyway, probably.
- HayString, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1digg me!
- AvidMasturbator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0That articles way too ***** long.
- HayString, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@ imperium,
"weed" is the "cool" way to refer to weed - HayString, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@ realitybias,
wtf, are you are noob or something? or just a dumb kid? show me one old-timer that doesn't call it "pot"
and cops call it "dope" not "pot" - Malik112099, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1$80,000/3 Years = $26,666.67 a year = $12.82 an hour = you can make more money working at Home Depot
- davidual, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0As we roll along to the next presidential election it is important to consider past political contributors and
the legislation that has been passed in the past. Here is a link to the Federal
Election Commission. At this site one can ascertain the contributors of 535 members of the House
of Representatives, 100 members of the Senate, and the President.
On another note, and something that has dictated much aggravation in my son's life, as well as my own,
here are a couple links to help inform parents of something that pediatricians and/or neurologists will
never tell them.
The first link is from the Center for Disease
Control pertaining to the ADHD syndrome. Probably the most important information on this site is
that the CDC cautions us that ADHD cannot have a biological cause because of the 20% to 40% of
children that grow out of it. This report flies in the face of the APA, CHADD, AMA, and drug industry
interests, and is a necessary read for parents of pre-school to primary school students.
The second link is from the Drug
Enforcement Administration, and pertains to the prescribing of anti-depressants/psycho-stimulants
by medical establishment, with emphasis on the need of strong labeling and control. The DEA informs
us of the illegal use of this drug, which is obtained by doctor pharming, kept in unlocked medicine
cabinets, taken without parental supervision, and a valued street drug.
The DEA also tells us that Methylphenidate (ie.- Ritalin, Concerta, etc) has the same effect on human
and animal testing subjects as cocaine.
I only post this to try to help other parents not go through what I have, and my son has. DOCTORS DO
NOT INFORM PARENTS OF THESE "ADVERSE EVENTS". They will scoff them away as
insignificant. I'll tell you a little story about what happened to my son . At age 6 he was prescribed
Concerta ER (Mehtylphenidate, "Ritalin") and we were presented with the shrugging shoulders from the
neurologist, "minor little ticks", "no big deal", "don't worry", etc.
We got home and the next morning I gave my son one of these putrid little pills, which the neurologist
said was the lowest dose only to find out it was twice the lowest dose, and we preceded to school Well
on the way to school he found some wet-wipes in my car and he was cleaning every inch of the vinyl that
he could find in my car. Hyper focused to the point of compulsion.
After school we went home, and he was fidgety, couldn't sit still, we made dinner because he had T-ball
practice, but he couldn't eat because his stomach was upset. So, we told him to go,lie down on the
couch and about fifteen minutes later his legs were uncontrollably jumping and twitching, and I mean
visibly. So, I called the neurologist, right then, and told him what was going on, and all he said to me
was, "Has he had a seizure yet?" I said, "Well, no, but...", and he interrupted me by asking what the
problem was. In other words, if he wasn't having a seizure, who cares?
I refused to give this crap to my son and have been fighting government agencies, schools, doctors, and
family members ever since. It seems that most people have the idea that this drug is a miracle drug,
and in fact, was compared to aspirin by a special teacher at a CSE meeting. If you show them
certifiable facts like in these two links they scoff it off as just a couple of the hundreds of negative
websites on this topic.
In conclusion, I'm not trying to tell people what to do, or how to raise their children, but please demand to
be informed. Believe me, you, the parent, must ask specific questions because the medical
establishment will not give specific information voluntarily. In closing I'd like to add that the adverse
effects of these drugs so assimilate the symptoms being treated that it is next to impossible to ascertain
if they are treating the patient, or addicting the patient. - dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1***** working a real job?
Yeah, 'cause $80,000 over 3 years sounds like it's totally worth it. You *****. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Let me clear this up. What is the 'cool' way to refer to marijuna anyway?
I like the term 'ganja'. - kcap122, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1unless your marijuana is called reefer, you're a square, my man.
and on topic... dont really think i'd participate. what if someone got it in their head to use asbestos to cure lung cancer? meh. i'll pass. - zbeast, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4Well I like drugs and all.
Some pot here.
Some coke there and "e" anytime I can get it .
But the Idea of being part of some drug study for cash, no thanks I'll pass.
Well unless it's pot, coke, or "e". :) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Dugg down for calling it pot.
Are you a cop or something? - Rayfound, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3Living, breathing versions of the new mexico desert...
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